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I'll do it , but I'm currently working on intelligence so it'll take some timeCan you help me with the core stages of the Twin horns group?
Preferably pre and war arc.
I think they should just scale to jasmine but I don't have any basis for that.
I'll also revisit the speed stuff (thunderclap impulse amp and stuff)
Although they should be comparable to Reynolds at the very least (light-red) and Jasmine was stated to be the most talented out of their group.Can you help me with the core stages of the Twin horns group?
Preferably pre and war arc.
I think they should just scale to jasmine but I don't have any basis for that.
I'll also revisit the speed stuff (thunderclap impulse amp and stuff)
That's a bust thenAlthough they should be comparable to Reynolds at the very least (light-red) and Jasmine was stated to be the most talented out of their group.
Move out of the way. I’ll wake him up,” a familiar voice grunted, and a loud crackle resounded from its direction.
I immediately sprang to my feet, catching the projectile of lightning in my hand.
“Bairon. A displeasure to see you again,” I said sharply. I was still in a foul mood from my argument with Tessia yesterday.
The thick tendrils of black lightning that coiled around my arm receded at my beckoning. I internalized the lightning magic, quickening my reaction time by reinforcing my very neurons with crackling energy.
Uto’s hand blurred. It blurred. Despite being in Realmheart and having Thunderclap Impulse heightening my senses, I couldn’t clearly see his strike.
My bond triggered another spark, releasing a blast of mana, while I hailed dozens of ice-spikes down on the retainer. Before either of our attacks could reach Cylrit, however, the retainer spun towards me. I barely managed to dodge the kick aimed at my face, but his foot still scuffed me on the shoulder.
The world blurred around me as I took a single, mana-enhanced step, and my eyes and brain struggled to collect, translate, and sort the influx of images. If my reflexes weren’t heightened through the usage of internal lightning magic, I would be more likely to kill myself by running into a wall than actually hurt my enemy.
Once I was right in front of him, I would drop Static Void and dispel his magic. As I sprinted toward him, I examined this enemy. He wasn’t a basilisk of the Vritra Clan, that much was clear, but he seemed much too powerful to be a mere retainer. Then I realized, and my concentration wavered, and Static Void shattered.
Even while integrating elemental mana into my blade, the black flames swirling around his hands ate away at my weapon and my mana, continually growing larger after consuming my attacks. I was able to slice through the black spikes that seemed to endlessly appear and protect their master, but not without my blade sustaining damage as well
Realmheart allowed me to see where the spikes would shoot out from and even how large they were before the spikes even manifested.
I infused my body with electricity, stimulating and forcibly enhancing my reflexes. I tuned everything out and focused solely on the path leading me to my opponent.
I was a king in my previous life, and I stood as one of the pinnacles of strength on the continent of Dicathen in this life, but what I felt now was true—divine—power.
‘Arthur! Stop! You’re hurting yourself,’ Sylvie begged, but I pushed her fears aside. I was tired of losing battle after battle. Uto, Cylrit, the Scythe—I had lost to them all.
Not today, especially not against this fraud who had possessed the body of my closest friend.
The tendrils of lightning shifted in color as they coiled around my body. I could see the aether being drawn to me, turning the black lightning a dark, dark purple.
‘Arthur!’ Sylvie roared, her voice farther away now.
Confident and ready, I took a step. The earth shattered beneath my feet, and I found myself standing behind Elijah, although he was still looking at where I had stood before.
I was physically stronger and sturdier than ever, but I knew it wasn’t enough to face off against the Scythes. Not yet.
Despite exploring the zone for an hour or more, and absorbing aether from both the beasts I killed and the atmosphere, I still hadn’t reached the two-layer core’s limit. “We’re not calling it that,” I said with an amused huff, “and I don’t really know. At least ten times more than before.”
I waited until the surface of the frozen bubble popped before launching myself at the retainer, my giant mace arcing through the air. Before it reached her, however, some sort of vibration pulled my weapon apart, leaving me holding nothing but a handful of sand.
So I punched her with that instead.
Her head rocked back as my fist made contact with her nose, but her leg was sweeping toward my knee at the same time. I made myself heavy enough that my feet cracked the column, and when her kick landed it just bounced off again
Even to my enhanced senses, Melzri was little more than a shadowy blur as she suddenly flew into our midst. I had just enough time to pull my spear up into a defensive position before her strike landed. The blow sent me skating backward, my feet digging long gouges into the courtyard
I'll admit swept over it and I'll go more in detail tomorrow but generally looks good (maybe I'll work something out with your scaling and mine) , also I'll probably drop my thoughts on intelligence tomorrow.Here goes nothing.
Speed scale (top-god tiers)
Arthur catches lightning (440,000m/s)
Arthur enhances his reaction against Uto (1,200,000m/s)
Uto Blitzes Arthur in TI (1,200,000m/s)
Clyrit should be comparable to Uto (1,200,000m/s)
WC Arthur reacts to Clyrit (1,200,000m/s)
WC Arthur attempts blitz with TI and BS (3,600,000m/s)
Nico is stated to be far above retainers (3,600,000)
RP Arthur could keep up with Nico's Attacks (3,600,000)
Arthur activates TI (10,800,000)
Arthur implies that Sylvia taking over was the most powerful power up he had ever experienced, which should take it above TI. As a testament to it, he completely blitzed Elijah (32,400,000m/s)
Asuran Form Arthur is superior to his previous physical peak (32,400,000m/s)
In the same scan, he admits that he's inferior to the scythes. Doesn't include Nico as he doesn't consider him a scythe due to familiarity and appearance. Other scythes scale above (32,400,000)
SC Arthur is 10x faster than before due to mana scaling (320,400,000)
I don't have the scan but TC Arthur is exponentially yada yada. At least 10x (3,204,000,000)
The Average retainer scales to Uto (1,200,000m/s)
The lances can keep up against a retainer (1,200,000m/s)
The Lances against the two scythes had some sort of emotional amp via not wanting to lose.
Bairon could somewhat react to a scythe while TI was activated (32,400,000)
The other lances can downscale 3x below him to his base form (10,800,000m/s)
Which shouldn't be all that weird considering Varay was considered superior to Arthur until the final "divine power"
Average Asura upscales from the average scythe (32,400,000m/s)
Tldr
We have these speed values
Average retainer (0.004c)
Average Lance (0.036c)
Weakest Scythe (0.036c)
Average Scythe (0.1c)
Top tier Scythe (1.08c)
Average Asura (1.08c)
God tiers (10.8c)
Acronyms
TI= Thunderclap impulse
RP= Realmheart Physique
SC= Second Core
TC= Third Core
BS= Burst Step
WC= White Core
What chapter is this from ?WC Arthur attempts blitz with TI and BS (3,600,000m/s)
Chapter 238What chapter is this from ?
It seems this statement is missing from where I'm reading.Chapter 238
The intelligence stuff are all fine.
I'll get to applying them soon
Hmm...It seems this statement is missing from where I'm reading.
Maybe it's just the chapter continuation being messed up from where I'm reading.Hmm...
I got in in the volume release though.
When he first met cadell
AlrightMaybe it's just the chapter continuation being messed up from where I'm reading.
Found it on another site and well yeah , the only thing I have a problem with is scaling Nico 3 times above Cylrit while I believe that he may be 3 times faster but the wiki won't accept that multiplier as he is faster but we don't know how much faster.Maybe it's just the chapter continuation being messed up from where I'm reading.
Eh....Found it on another site and well yeah , the only thing I have a problem with is scaling Nico 3 times above Cylrit while I believe that he may be 3 times faster but the wiki won't accept that multiplier as he is faster but we don't know how much faster.
Yeah still on this wiki he will be considered unknown amount faster.Eh....
The next quote is Arthur describing that Nico is much too powerful to be a mere retainer.
And he has actually fought clyrit before that
Looks good, I'll probably get round to their Intelligence sections soonTestarossa002/Seris Vritra
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No problem.Looks good, I'll probably get round to their Intelligence sections soon
I keep postponing thisMight have to apply your corrections for the past characters before creating any new profile.
Agrona should also have memory and at least limited mind manipulation as he was able to manipulate Cecilia's memories with the use of his magic which also directly interferes with the brain with this can also see inside the mind of other people, it's however unknown if all (or at least some) basilisks posses it or it's his unique magic.Testarossa002/Agnora Vritra
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Testarossa002/Wren Kain IV
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Messed up agnora's AP justification
I keep postponing this
Agrona: Genius (Managed to figure out how to reincarnate souls from other worlds on his own ch.193:Looks good, I'll probably get round to their Intelligence sections soon
I'll look into downscaling in my free time , for blessed and empowermentTook time off my Riordanverse revisions to update the current profiles I've made for tbate
Starting with Arthur.
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Filled out his intelligence section(I need references for the rest of the intelligence feats)
Added the abilities you outlined (some are already available in his base key. The "all previous abilities to a higher degree" covers that part. I'm not really seeing the reasoning behind blessed and empowerment. Maybe you could elaborate.)
I'll update his speed in the first key to hypersonic (although that maybe due to Realmheart)
I'm basically done with creating the profiles. All that's left is to add your corrections to most of them.
I was looking forward to making more pages (Lucas and Reynolds the most notable) but they are something we can do once the verse is officially introduced.
I have about 5 days of break from school. So I hope to finish it all in this timeframe.
Lastly, I'm unsure about some of the downscaling routes
Downscaling when there's a 3-4 times difference from baseline seems wrong.
If the characters slightly scale, we can put an "at most" rating on them or even scale them outrightly.
That should be all from me tonight.
I'll be dropping more stuffs for you to look over during the week.
Also updated latest intelligence sections with references.Agrona: Genius (Managed to figure out how to reincarnate souls from other worlds on his own ch.193:
(“Wait,” I called out. “What you told me earlier… that I was the only one on this continent that you were interested in. You never told me why that is.”
“I suppose it does no harm in telling you.” Agrona tapped his chin with a finger, thinking for a moment. “Let’s say I’ve enjoyed talking with an old friend of yours, King Grey.”
, is a basilisk who are known for their Intelligence and being scientists ch.84:
“The Vritra Clan had always been an anomaly. It’s simplest to imagine them as scientists of sorts. While their innate magic is unique and versatile, it was never as powerful as the other clans’ mana arts. However, coupled with their genius minds and insatiable curiosity, they were always one of the central clans.”
Ch.362: “Do you know why you were reincarnated?” Agrona asked, turning away from me to look at one of the ornaments hanging from the wall. “You were reincarnated because you were close to her. You and Grey both. To maximize the potential of the reincarnation—to make sure the Legacy was able to fully integrate into this world—a sort of array had to be formed between her lives. I needed anchors to hold and bind the Legacy’s spirit. That’s all you are.”
“Utilizing what I learned from the Relictombs, I looked across worlds until I found the Legacy, and next to her, you and King Grey.”
I flinched, my anger flaring at the reference to Grey’s kingship, won by taking Cecilia’s life. “But you needed me. You said so yourself. Grey’s reincarnation showed you how to bring me here. Without me, you—”
“I attempted the reincarnation on Grey first, that’s true, but his soul never arrived in the chosen vessel. A simple miscalculation, I thought. He had been alive still, back in your home world of Earth, while my preparations for the Legacy had assumed a soul passed on from its mortal sheath.” Agrona cocked his head to the side slightly, his tongue running over his sharp canines. “None of this matters now, you realize? There is little to no point in discussing it. But…I suppose I can humor you, Nico, if only to watch you struggle to understand.”
Agrona shrugged his large shoulders. “Although I can explain it, I can’t make you understand it. Taking what I’d learned from attempting to spark King Grey’s reincarnation, I began the process of your own reincarnation next, into the body of a newborn child from a prominent magical family with some lingering Vritra blood. You arrived, as planned.”)
, managed to lead several asura clans and make them revolt against Kezees and the other clans who held massive amounts of power ch.84:
“After Agrona began leading the Vritra Clan, however, their strength abruptly increased unnaturally. No one could figure out how Agrona could advance the Vritra Clan’s mana power in such a short time. Eventually, through their rise in power, they were able to rally up more clans to share his ideals and the Vritra Clan soon led a faction on par with either of the other two factions.”
, with the clans under his command managed to massively revolutionise a whole continent all the while creating human-asura hybrids and managed to make every fifth Alacryan a mage — ch.193:
(“What have you managed to accomplish for their future generations that is so great that it supersedes decades of you conducting experiments on the inhabitants of Alacyra? I asked, playing along.
“I’ll answer that question with another question,” he gestured. “I know that the rough statistic of mage to nonmages in Dicathen is one in one hundred. What do you suppose the statistic is in Alacrya?”
I remained silent.
Agrona smirked. “It’s one in five.”
“One in fi-five?” I sputtered.
“Unimaginable by your standards as well, right?” He gave me a wink.
“I’ll admit that what you manage to do is impressive, but aren’t you afraid that with so many of the population as mages, that those who still hold a grudge will band up and revolt?”)
, is a type of person that always has several backup plans for the latest example ch.445:
Chuckling at the look on my face, he gave a little shake of his head, setting the ornaments in his horns to jangling. “Allow me to let you in on a little secret,” he said, smiling coyly. “Arthur Leywin—Grey—is doing exactly what we want him to do.”
“W-what?” I asked, unable to stop myself from choking on the word. “But you ordered—”
“Good steel is forged in a hot fire, isn’t it?” he interrupted, wiggling his eyebrows up and down. “You’re a tool, he’s a tool. Tools need sharpening, tempering—gracious, in Nico’s case, the tool needed to be broken down and reforged entirely.”
I swallowed heavily. This was how Agrona operated. Flippantness, sudden switches of extreme personality traits, vagueness…he always knew how to put his opponent off guard. And right now, he was treating me like an opponent.
“Nico nearly died. I almost died,” I snapped, stopping to point down to the wound in my side, blood soaking my clothes. “If you really are…tempering us or whatever, what are you doing to ensure that we don't shatter?”
Agrona seemed entirely unconcerned as he looked down at the blood staining half my torso. “Would you agree, Cecilia, that battles are won by strength?”
I sensed the trap in his tone, but I couldn’t see it. “And wars are won by the strategic application of that strength. Yes.”
“Not exactly, no. Battle doesn’t consist only of power levels. If that were the case, Kezess—with his vastly greater numbers and resources—would have successfully assassinated me long ago.” Agrona began walking again, and I had no option but to follow. “Regardless of whether you are studying lessers or asuras, there is a universal truth to violent conflict. The factors surrounding a battle—the emotions, interplay of relationships, crossroads between expectation and effort—are equally important to the outcome as the strength of the combatants.
“While the game of Sovereign’s Quarrel may have a near-infinite combination of moves, you limit the opponent’s range of creativity not by changing the game, but by changing them. For example, I was aware that Arthur left Dicathen with a lessuran phoenix in tow. There would be no reason to do so unless he intended to bring this lessuran into battle with him. Dragoth would have been a poor match for such a warrior, and so I kept him where he is, banging his thick, horned skull against Seris’s shields.”
“Viessa’s powers…” I started out loud, then trailed off.
Agrona nodded encouragingly, like I was a toddler taking my first steps. “It's a shame she died, I suppose, but she served her purpose. The lessuran’s impact on the battle was reduced, and even turned into an asset, disrupting Arthur’s ability to focus on you and forcing him to protect his companions while you were not so impaired.”
I felt a cold chill run down my spine. I hadn’t told him any of that; he’d read it in my thoughts.
Agrona was silent for a moment, his eyes tracking across the length of my body. “After all, it seems you were able to absorb some of his dragon bond’s mana, even if only a touch.”
It was too much to absorb while also struggling to keep my thoughts in line.
Or ch.436:
She took it. “Things are coming to a head, Regent. I can’t help but feel that Agrona is done biding his time. He does nothing without a plan, and even if his asuran nature sometimes makes him aloof in the moment, I do not believe anything that has happened is outside of his intentions. Even his defeat here in Dicathen.”)
Wren: Genius (Creates extremely high-quality (ch.123: “As much as a compliment your words may be, comparing my weapons—no matter how poor in quality—to the primitive tools used by you lesser races only insults me.” He clicked his tongue. “I had forged this sword as more of a one-size-fits-all weapon. I must’ve been drunk when I thought that was a good idea. This sword just came out to be a sharp tool, nothing more, nothing less.” Wren finally pried his eyes off of the sword and exchanged glances at Windsom. “But this makes things interesting.”)weapons for Asuras with special properties, such as Dawns ballad a sword that can shapeshift to best suit it's user and an unnamed sword that can measure movements (ch.123: “Boy, Dawn’s Ballad might be just a sharp tool, but it still chose you. I’m not proud of this particular piece, but I’m not going to take it away from you,” he replied. The asura then stretched his arm in front of him and a sword suddenly emerged from the ground below. Grabbing the sword by its hilt, he tossed it to me. “For now, use this while training. I created it to measure the movements the user produces and the force of the impact it receives.”), while to create those weapons there is no need to forge but refine and synthesise and this process is individual for each weapon:
Ch.124: Taking out a small, black case the size of a fist from his coat pocket, he opened it and held out a small, pyramid-shaped, opaque gem. “This is a mineral called an acclorite. Now, by itself, it’s a rather rare but useless piece of rock. However, with the right refining and synthesizing process that I will keep to my grave, it is capable of doing something remarkable.”
“As in, speeding up the training process of the user?” I guessed.
“Remember when I said I don’t forge swords, but create them?” the hunched asura asked, still holding out the tiny gem in front of me.
I nodded in reply.
“Well, with the use of this small little gem and the right tools, I can essentially grow a weapon.”
“Grow? As in, grow like a tree?” I reiterated, sure that I had heard wrong.
“Yes,” the asura sighed, scratching his head. “I swear, you get surprised by the most odd things. You hardly bat an eye at the fact that I can conjure a near perfect replica of your mate—”
Is a very precise pearson: ch.122:
“I doubt you’d be able to comprehend what I tell you.” Wren shook his head, waving dismissively at me.
“Try me,” I challenged, still virtually naked.
He explained that he’d been making calculations and speculations based on the milliseconds it took for mana to move accordingly within my body before it manifested. Besides the condescending tone he had used throughout his explanation, his insights were brilliant.)
Cadell: Above Average, likely Gifted (Is agrona's "right hand man" ch.372:
"So Agrona did not confirm Arthur’s presence in Alacrya with the rest of the Scythes, but he has told Cadell. Interesting."
wich you can't really achieve by just being strong (as Wraiths exist) as a Scythe was put in a leadership position therefore should have received proper training)
Lyra: Gifted (as a Retainer was put in a leadership position therefore should have received proper training, has shown great expertise in morally subduing and leading people, managed to without many hiccups lead massive amount of dissatisfied soldiers and desperate people to create a pretty stable and prospering series of settlements putting soldiers to non-war professions to a great effect ch.436:
The crowd around us broke up, the Alacryans going back to their duties, and Lyra gestured for us to follow her. We walked along between the rows of buildings. Most had planters full of herbs out front, and I saw where two wells had been erected. Everything was geared toward purpose, nothing appeared to be ornamental.
And all of it, everything, was colorless. Even the ground, where no grass grew, was just a darker shade of gray against the lighter cobblestone path. To our right, the horizon grew dark with greenery from the Beast Glades. Rows of raised-bed farming plots broke up the landscape. Dozens of Alacryans were hard at work hauling soil and water, minding crops, and erecting new beds with a combination of physical and magical labor. Beyond them, several mages stood guard facing the Beast Glades.
On the other side of the village, the northward horizon simply vanished in a heat haze above rolling gray hills.
“Not exactly a great view, is it?” Lyra mused, following my line of sight. “Still, we’ve done quite well here. There is a certain…peace to it.”
A keening cry suddenly interrupted the rustic silence, and it took me a moment to recognize the sound.
“A baby,” Sylvie said, arriving at that conclusion a moment before I did.
Lyra smiled and brushed the bright hair from her face. “Our first. An Alacryan child born on Dicathian soil. What exactly does that make him, Regent?”
I didn’t know, but Lyra saved me the trouble of struggling for an answer. “Our presence draws a steady supply of edible mana beasts out of the Beast Glades, and we have found several moon oxen that must have been far enough south when…and we’ve managed to start a few crops with seed sent by that Helen Shard woman. Yes, I’d say we’ve done as well as could be hoped, considering.”)
Also Addendum to Arthur (was recognised by Wren and could keep up with him mentally ch.122 :
“I doubt you’d be able to comprehend what I tell you.” Wren shook his head, waving dismissively at me.
“Try me,” I challenged, still virtually naked.
He explained that he’d been making calculations and speculations based on the milliseconds it took for mana to move accordingly within my body before it manifested. Besides the condescending tone he had used throughout his explanation , his insights were brilliant.
There’s still a lot to account for that you didn’t measure, though,” I interjected. “We still need to account for the environment that we’re in right now. I find myself most comfortable using fire and water elemental spells, but water-affinity mana is lacking in this area.”
“Of course I put all of that into account. How long do you think I’ve been doing this for?” Wren’s condescending gaze shifted, however, as he stared at me curiously. “How old did you say you were?”
“Nearly fifteen now,” I answered, calculating in my head how long it had been since I came here.
“Huh. Not entirely brainless, I guess,” Wren shrugged."
We can just scale them to the feats they show individuallyHere however I cannot put at most High Hypersonic as dark-yellow core mages already downscale so what do you think I should do)
Updated the scaling chain + working on something interesting.We can just scale them to the feats they show individually
Or scale them as far higher than supersonic+
Looking forward to thisworking on something interesting.
Small corrections while I'm working on things:Aldir
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Found a new justification for Nico's post Victoriad key. Not as straightforward as others but should still work.
Elijah Knight
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I'll really appreciate if you can get me some abilities along with chapter numbers for Regis.
His base in the Victoriad key can also need some update (can't remember him fighting anyone in base though)
Regis
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At this rate, I should be done with corrections by the end of the week.
Looking forward to this
FixedSmall corrections while I'm working on things:
Aldir: should be Low 6-B in base instead of his current rating (High 6-C in base)
Nico: should be Massively Hypersonic+ instead of just Massively Hypersonic (as he scales to retainer class opponents)
Caera: should also be Massively Hypersonic+ as she scales to Nico
All things being equal, we should be able to publish the available pages by next week.Like most Shounen series, Black Clover starts at a modest level of power before becoming much stronger as the series progresses. The lowest characters scale around Multi-City Block level while the higher-tier characters range from City level to Large Mountain level. Later on, most lower-tier characters range from Large Mountain level to Country level, and the high-tiers jump to Country level+ to Large Country level destruction. Finally, the top-tiers are reached in the Spade War Arc, with many characters of varying levels of Multi-Continent level existing, and the Final Saga bringing god-tiers that are higher into Multi-Continent level and some even being Moon level to Small Planet level.
Black Clover is regarded as a very fast verse due to its incredibly early statements of light speed, although this topic tends to be controversial when brought up. Currently, the slowest characters scale to Relativistic speeds, with faster characters being Relativistic+. Light Magic is generally rated at Speed of Light and its superior version, Demon Light Magic is generally rated at FTL. Faster FTL characters are reached in the Spade Kingdom Saga, and the Final Saga contains the fastest characters, who are Massively FTL.
In terms of Lifting Strength, the verse is rather varied. Most characters tend to be comparatively unimpressive as most characters tend to not display physical feats. Thus, they a good part of the cast scales to Class 10, but there are also many that reach Class K, Class M, Class G, Class T and even Class P, Class E, and Class Z.
Like other magic verses, Black Clover has a variety of abilities, including ones that most mages can use such as the durability-boosting Mana Skin - which also provides Resistances to Heat Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, and Power Nullification - and the Statistics Amplification provided by Reinforcement Magic. It also has some notable hax at its disposal. Abilities such as Asta’s Anti-Magic, Julius’ Existence Erasure & Time Manipulation, or Yami’s Durability Negation via Spatial Manipulation allow many characters to fight opponents stronger than themselves, making this verse very formidable.
In addition, Black Clover is home to numerous devils. These devils have their own unique physiology, as shown here. This grants a slew of abilities, the most notable one being the Invulnerability of the hearts of mid-rank devils or higher; this requires the use of Arcane or Saint Stage attacks to defeat them, adding another level of formidability to the verse.
Sorry it took so longToo lazy to link all the profiles again but I've applied all your corrections to the profiles.
Just waiting for abilities for some characters.
I've submitted the lightning perception calc to dmua
If accepted, the god tiers can scale to like 5c.
Also, can you come up with a "powers of the verse section for the verse page?
Something like this
All things being equal, we should be able to publish the available pages by next week.
I'll ask an admin to look through the pages so any formatting correction can be made before we post
Thank you once again.
Can you send evidence for this?Cylrit was the strongest retainer
It was in one of the QnAs and I currently don't have access to them , as the guy that posted QnAs was banned on RedditCan you send evidence for this?
I'll go through your write up later
Sad stuffs then.It was in one of the QnAs and I currently don't have access to them , as the guy that posted QnAs was banned on Reddit