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TBATE Discussion Thread

Can you help me with the core stages of the Twin horns group?
Preferably pre and war arc.

I think they should just scale to jasmine but I don't have any basis for that.

I'll also revisit the speed stuff (thunderclap impulse amp and stuff)
Well this is probably the best i can do
 
Can you help me with the core stages of the Twin horns group?
Preferably pre and war arc.

I think they should just scale to jasmine but I don't have any basis for that.

I'll also revisit the speed stuff (thunderclap impulse amp and stuff)
I'll do it , but I'm currently working on intelligence so it'll take some time
 
Can you help me with the core stages of the Twin horns group?
Preferably pre and war arc.

I think they should just scale to jasmine but I don't have any basis for that.

I'll also revisit the speed stuff (thunderclap impulse amp and stuff)
Although they should be comparable to Reynolds at the very least (light-red) and Jasmine was stated to be the most talented out of their group.
 
Here goes nothing.

Speed scale (top-god tiers)

Arthur catches lightning (440,000m/s)
Move out of the way. I’ll wake him up,” a familiar voice grunted, and a loud crackle resounded from its direction.
I immediately sprang to my feet, catching the projectile of lightning in my hand.
“Bairon. A displeasure to see you again,” I said sharply. I was still in a foul mood from my argument with Tessia yesterday.

Arthur enhances his reaction against Uto (1,200,000m/s)
The thick tendrils of black lightning that coiled around my arm receded at my beckoning. I internalized the lightning magic, quickening my reaction time by reinforcing my very neurons with crackling energy.

Uto Blitzes Arthur in TI (1,200,000m/s)
Uto’s hand blurred. It blurred. Despite being in Realmheart and having Thunderclap Impulse heightening my senses, I couldn’t clearly see his strike.

Clyrit should be comparable to Uto (1,200,000m/s)

WC Arthur reacts to Clyrit (1,200,000m/s)
My bond triggered another spark, releasing a blast of mana, while I hailed dozens of ice-spikes down on the retainer. Before either of our attacks could reach Cylrit, however, the retainer spun towards me. I barely managed to dodge the kick aimed at my face, but his foot still scuffed me on the shoulder.

WC Arthur attempts blitz with TI and BS (3,600,000m/s)
The world blurred around me as I took a single, mana-enhanced step, and my eyes and brain struggled to collect, translate, and sort the influx of images. If my reflexes weren’t heightened through the usage of internal lightning magic, I would be more likely to kill myself by running into a wall than actually hurt my enemy.

Nico is stated to be far above retainers (3,600,000)

Once I was right in front of him, I would drop Static Void and dispel his magic. As I sprinted toward him, I examined this enemy. He wasn’t a basilisk of the Vritra Clan, that much was clear, but he seemed much too powerful to be a mere retainer. Then I realized, and my concentration wavered, and Static Void shattered.

RP Arthur could keep up with Nico's Attacks (3,600,000)
Even while integrating elemental mana into my blade, the black flames swirling around his hands ate away at my weapon and my mana, continually growing larger after consuming my attacks. I was able to slice through the black spikes that seemed to endlessly appear and protect their master, but not without my blade sustaining damage as well

Arthur activates TI (10,800,000)
Realmheart allowed me to see where the spikes would shoot out from and even how large they were before the spikes even manifested.
I infused my body with electricity, stimulating and forcibly enhancing my reflexes. I tuned everything out and focused solely on the path leading me to my opponent.

Arthur implies that Sylvia taking over was the most powerful power up he had ever experienced, which should take it above TI. As a testament to it, he completely blitzed Elijah (32,400,000m/s)
I was a king in my previous life, and I stood as one of the pinnacles of strength on the continent of Dicathen in this life, but what I felt now was true—divine—power.
‘Arthur! Stop! You’re hurting yourself,’ Sylvie begged, but I pushed her fears aside. I was tired of losing battle after battle. Uto, Cylrit, the Scythe—I had lost to them all.
Not today, especially not against this fraud who had possessed the body of my closest friend.
The tendrils of lightning shifted in color as they coiled around my body. I could see the aether being drawn to me, turning the black lightning a dark, dark purple.
‘Arthur!’ Sylvie roared, her voice farther away now.
Confident and ready, I took a step. The earth shattered beneath my feet, and I found myself standing behind Elijah, although he was still looking at where I had stood before.

Asuran Form Arthur is superior to his previous physical peak (32,400,000m/s)
I was physically stronger and sturdier than ever, but I knew it wasn’t enough to face off against the Scythes. Not yet.

In the same scan, he admits that he's inferior to the scythes. Doesn't include Nico as he doesn't consider him a scythe due to familiarity and appearance. Other scythes scale above (32,400,000)

SC Arthur is 10x faster than before due to mana scaling (320,400,000)
Despite exploring the zone for an hour or more, and absorbing aether from both the beasts I killed and the atmosphere, I still hadn’t reached the two-layer core’s limit. “We’re not calling it that,” I said with an amused huff, “and I don’t really know. At least ten times more than before.”

I don't have the scan but TC Arthur is exponentially yada yada. At least 10x (3,204,000,000)

The Average retainer scales to Uto (1,200,000m/s)

The lances can keep up against a retainer (1,200,000m/s)
I waited until the surface of the frozen bubble popped before launching myself at the retainer, my giant mace arcing through the air. Before it reached her, however, some sort of vibration pulled my weapon apart, leaving me holding nothing but a handful of sand.

So I punched her with that instead.

Her head rocked back as my fist made contact with her nose, but her leg was sweeping toward my knee at the same time. I made myself heavy enough that my feet cracked the column, and when her kick landed it just bounced off again

The Lances against the two scythes had some sort of emotional amp via not wanting to lose.
Bairon could somewhat react to a scythe while TI was activated (32,400,000)
Even to my enhanced senses, Melzri was little more than a shadowy blur as she suddenly flew into our midst. I had just enough time to pull my spear up into a defensive position before her strike landed. The blow sent me skating backward, my feet digging long gouges into the courtyard

The other lances can downscale 3x below him to his base form (10,800,000m/s)
Which shouldn't be all that weird considering Varay was considered superior to Arthur until the final "divine power"

Average Asura upscales from the average scythe (32,400,000m/s)

Tldr
We have these speed values

Average retainer (0.004c)
Average Lance (0.036c)
Weakest Scythe (0.036c)
Average Scythe (0.1c)
Top tier Scythe (1.08c)
Average Asura (1.08c)
God tiers (10.8c)

Acronyms
TI= Thunderclap impulse
RP= Realmheart Physique
SC= Second Core
TC= Third Core
BS= Burst Step
WC= White Core
 
Here goes nothing.

Speed scale (top-god tiers)

Arthur catches lightning (440,000m/s)


Arthur enhances his reaction against Uto (1,200,000m/s)


Uto Blitzes Arthur in TI (1,200,000m/s)


Clyrit should be comparable to Uto (1,200,000m/s)

WC Arthur reacts to Clyrit (1,200,000m/s)


WC Arthur attempts blitz with TI and BS (3,600,000m/s)


Nico is stated to be far above retainers (3,600,000)



RP Arthur could keep up with Nico's Attacks (3,600,000)


Arthur activates TI (10,800,000)


Arthur implies that Sylvia taking over was the most powerful power up he had ever experienced, which should take it above TI. As a testament to it, he completely blitzed Elijah (32,400,000m/s)


Asuran Form Arthur is superior to his previous physical peak (32,400,000m/s)


In the same scan, he admits that he's inferior to the scythes. Doesn't include Nico as he doesn't consider him a scythe due to familiarity and appearance. Other scythes scale above (32,400,000)

SC Arthur is 10x faster than before due to mana scaling (320,400,000)


I don't have the scan but TC Arthur is exponentially yada yada. At least 10x (3,204,000,000)

The Average retainer scales to Uto (1,200,000m/s)

The lances can keep up against a retainer (1,200,000m/s)


The Lances against the two scythes had some sort of emotional amp via not wanting to lose.
Bairon could somewhat react to a scythe while TI was activated (32,400,000)


The other lances can downscale 3x below him to his base form (10,800,000m/s)
Which shouldn't be all that weird considering Varay was considered superior to Arthur until the final "divine power"

Average Asura upscales from the average scythe (32,400,000m/s)

Tldr
We have these speed values

Average retainer (0.004c)
Average Lance (0.036c)
Weakest Scythe (0.036c)
Average Scythe (0.1c)
Top tier Scythe (1.08c)
Average Asura (1.08c)
God tiers (10.8c)

Acronyms
TI= Thunderclap impulse
RP= Realmheart Physique
SC= Second Core
TC= Third Core
BS= Burst Step
WC= White Core
I'll admit swept over it and I'll go more in detail tomorrow but generally looks good (maybe I'll work something out with your scaling and mine) , also I'll probably drop my thoughts on intelligence tomorrow.
 
Also Intelligence:


Seris: Genius (Managed to lead a rebellion against the Asuras, is feared amongst Scythes for her intellect, managed to create a massive mana array, created and executed the plan to capture an Asura , almost always had several plans of actions, managed to get the most out of a dire situation (During The breach of Rosaere's mana shiled by Cecilia managed to not only embarrass Cecilia/Dragoth and their forces but shake the "untouchable" image of Asuras(Sovereigns) by beheading one on live TV while also in some aspects outplaying Agrona)

Caera: Above average , likely Gifted (Graduate of the Central dominion Academy , was mentored by Scythe Seris ,is an experienced Ascender (basically adventurer but more extreme) , is at least a tiny bit knowledgeable on Alacryan politics)

Regis: at least Genius (Has all of Arthur's/Sylvie's/Sylvia's/Uto's memories and experiences also is directly connected to Arthur's mind. Although preferes not to really care or utilise those memories and experiences.)

Elijah/Nico: Above average (while not exactly the brightest still is considerably smart and also has a few years of experience being an adventurer) /at least Genius (should be smarter than Arthur in technical science, learnt lockpicking at a young age (ch.139) ,as a child made a glove that could lock someone's muscles up (ch.144), created an amulet that could hide someone's ki (ch.177)

"On Earth, I’d been a technical wizard, mastering advanced scientific principles at a young age to achieve feats like suppress Cecilia’s ki and allow her to function in something like a normal life. After her death…I spiraled, throwing myself into my research, learning everything about engineering, physics, and ki-related studies that I could.

A surprising amount of this knowledge was directly transferable to working magic, especially Imbuing and artificing. Energy had to be sourced and efficiently transferred, instructions were presented, power outputted to provide a specific result.

Efficiency, I repeated to myself. That is the real problem. If what I’m doing is going to work, it has to allow entirely efficient manipulation of the mana, with no delay or loss." - ch.399

, invented a new alloy + created an artifact that can weaken an asura (ch.414) , created a weapon that even Third layer Arthur was weary of)

Kezees: at least Gifted (Has thousand of years of experience, despite being very arrogant)

Aldir: at least Gifted (Has hundreds of years of experience, supremely skilled fighter and military leader)

Lances: above average, likely Gifted (Were appointed to be high ranking commanders during the war threfore were trained as such , in addition all of them are skilled combatants)

Tessia: Above average , likely Gifted (Was mentored thoroughly by Virion and taught in combat and leadership, was appointed as the leader of her squad , but she is still young and inexperienced in actual combat against people which lead to her losing her temper which in turn makes her lose any leadership skills she had , seemingly got better Later in the war)

Virion: at least Gifted (is considered to be a legendary commander (king at the time) singlehandedly lead Elves to victory in the war against humans , has at least one hundred years of experience)

Eleanor: Above average (was mentored by Helen Shard (a skilled adventurer with even more experience than Jasmine) , proficient archer , doesn't have enough experience in real fighting but in all her fights preformed admirably , was shown to be a quick learner adjusting quickly to her regalia and quickly improving her control over it while also increasing her versatility)

Sylvie: at least Above average (While wise and insightful (after resurrection) and showing high mental acuity she is still a child threfore inexperienced in many fields outside of combat (also should be at least knowledgeable an Asuran politics) , was shown to be quickly adapting to Arthur's fighting style)

Kathlyn: Gifted (Is a princess and was raised accordingly (threfore very knowledgeable on politics) was also likely to take the place of a queen

And yet…I had been raised around politics and court intrigue my entire life. I could see the manipulation of public opinion as it was happening; the dragons had silently been undercutting the people’s view of Arthur. It was an “out with the old, in with the new” mentality that I understood, but it was unjust and terribly unfair to a man who had given so much to save us. - ch.450

“Bairon tells me Curtis is determined and hardworking, but that their progress is slow. He has definitely made progress but even as a beast tamer, his comprehension of mana is only average at best. Princess Kathlyn, on the other hand, is moving along well in her training. I was told she was always a bit more gifted than everyone else, and from these two years, I understand why,” Varay answered, looking apathetically at the jewels she had no fondness for. - ch.125)

Curtis: Above average ( while noted to be not as Gifted as Kathlyn still managed to reach silver core and take a leadership position during the war , was also likely trained to lead people as the next king)

Arthur: at least Genius (Could easily recreate and modify Steam engine for utilisation of new fuel types, knows how guns work and how to create them, reinvented the crucible method and at least partially experienced in creating high quality weapons (ch.412) , is implied to know a lot more as he had nothing else to do in his previous life except learn, although he fears changing the world too much with inventions , is regarded as a military genius ,

But how do I come up with a way to make Burst Step into something that would bypass the need to control the muscles mechanically?

I’d imagine if I were any other mage or mana manipulator in this world, I would’ve thought of it as impossible, but I had one crucial advantage: Knowledge from my past life.

Due to my mediocre ki center, I had studied in-depth about the human body, namely the working mechanics of what went into essentially putting the human body into movement. It was through this knowledge that I had been able to fully utilize the little ki I had inside me to become a king. - ch.114)

, likely Extraordinary Genius in combat (Had insane fighting sense even in his first serious fight in his life:

As my body shot up, for some reason, everything around me turned silent. The world around me slowed as I could hear my heart thumping erratically, as if every other noise had been tuned out.

I realized mid-jump that I wouldn’t be able to reach the nail, but I was surprisingly calm. My peripheral view all came into focus as if I was looking at everything around me all at once. Utilizing a deep crack in one of the lower bricks, I sprung myself off to reach the rusted nail.

As I pried out the nail, I pushed off the wall with my feet to accelerate towards the hefty thug. I could slowly see the man’s expression change from surprise to grim concentration. I could clearly see his right arm about to intercept my attack somehow, just from seeing the twitch in his right shoulder.

I used my free hand to vault off of his right arm as it formed an arc toward me. In that same instant, I jabbed the nail in my hand directly into his eye—even feeling the sensation of the tip burying itself inside." - ch.139

Is the strongest man in his country in terms of skill in a world where if someone wanted to achieve something they had to have the fighting skills to back it up , had a below average ki centre which meant he couldn't hold up to most of his opponent in pure strength/speed so he compensated with skill
"In my past life, I had used the simplest techniques to utilize the most of my meager ki pool. With that and my sword, I had been able to rise to the top. Dicathen offered so many more possibilities but if I was to truly excel and become the best in this world, I was going to have to not only use my gifts in this life, but my experiences from my previous life." -ch.30
Was able to take apart (and point out all of the mistakes) of his opponents fighting style in a few exchanges.)

Jasmine: Above average (Is an experienced adventurer with a several years of a experiencei in different sometimes extreme situations)
 
Maybe it's just the chapter continuation being messed up from where I'm reading.
Alright
Others would probably raise issues on multiplier stacking (like a certain magic verse) but we have supporting stuffs like Arthur viewing lightning in (very)slow motion and Seris's Attack
 
Maybe it's just the chapter continuation being messed up from where I'm reading.
Found it on another site and well yeah , the only thing I have a problem with is scaling Nico 3 times above Cylrit while I believe that he may be 3 times faster but the wiki won't accept that multiplier as he is faster but we don't know how much faster.
So it would look like this:

Strongest retainers: 1320000 m/s (0.004c)
Average Lance: 1320000 m/s (0.004c)
Weakest Scythe: at least 1320000 m/s (0.004c)
Victoriad Lances: at most 11880000 m/s (0.039c)
AC Arthur: 11880000 m/s (0.039c)
Average Scythe: 11880000 m/s (0.039c)
Top tier Scythe: 118800000 m/s (0.39c)
SLAC Arthur: 118800000 m/s (0.39c) (0.53c if we take into account my perception calc)
Average Asura: 118800000 m/s (0.39c)
God tiers (TLAC Arthur): 1188000000 m/s (3.96c)
 
Found it on another site and well yeah , the only thing I have a problem with is scaling Nico 3 times above Cylrit while I believe that he may be 3 times faster but the wiki won't accept that multiplier as he is faster but we don't know how much faster.
Eh....
The next quote is Arthur describing that Nico is much too powerful to be a mere retainer.
And he has actually fought clyrit before that
 
Updated my Scaling blog and noticed another detail Arthur dispels Thunderclap Impulse before entering Unleashed Realmheart , so all in all accounting for this details God-tiers will scale to slightly above FTL (1-1.32c) wich seems pretty consistent with other feats.
 
Looks good, I'll probably get round to their Intelligence sections soon
No problem.

Might have to apply your corrections for the past characters before creating any new profile.

Because they've been racking up.
 


Messed up agnora's AP justification

I keep postponing this
Agrona should also have memory and at least limited mind manipulation as he was able to manipulate Cecilia's memories with the use of his magic which also directly interferes with the brain with this can also see inside the mind of other people, it's however unknown if all (or at least some) basilisks posses it or it's his unique magic.
 
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Looks good, I'll probably get round to their Intelligence sections soon
Agrona: Genius (Managed to figure out how to reincarnate souls from other worlds on his own ch.193:

(“Wait,” I called out. “What you told me earlier… that I was the only one on this continent that you were interested in. You never told me why that is.”

“I suppose it does no harm in telling you.” Agrona tapped his chin with a finger, thinking for a moment. “Let’s say I’ve enjoyed talking with an old friend of yours, King Grey.”

, is a basilisk who are known for their Intelligence and being scientists ch.84:

“The Vritra Clan had always been an anomaly. It’s simplest to imagine them as scientists of sorts. While their innate magic is unique and versatile, it was never as powerful as the other clans’ mana arts. However, coupled with their genius minds and insatiable curiosity, they were always one of the central clans.”

Ch.362: “Do you know why you were reincarnated?” Agrona asked, turning away from me to look at one of the ornaments hanging from the wall. “You were reincarnated because you were close to her. You and Grey both. To maximize the potential of the reincarnation—to make sure the Legacy was able to fully integrate into this world—a sort of array had to be formed between her lives. I needed anchors to hold and bind the Legacy’s spirit. That’s all you are.”

“Utilizing what I learned from the Relictombs, I looked across worlds until I found the Legacy, and next to her, you and King Grey.”

I flinched, my anger flaring at the reference to Grey’s kingship, won by taking Cecilia’s life. “But you needed me. You said so yourself. Grey’s reincarnation showed you how to bring me here. Without me, you—”

“I attempted the reincarnation on Grey first, that’s true, but his soul never arrived in the chosen vessel. A simple miscalculation, I thought. He had been alive still, back in your home world of Earth, while my preparations for the Legacy had assumed a soul passed on from its mortal sheath.” Agrona cocked his head to the side slightly, his tongue running over his sharp canines. “None of this matters now, you realize? There is little to no point in discussing it. But…I suppose I can humor you, Nico, if only to watch you struggle to understand.”

Agrona shrugged his large shoulders. “Although I can explain it, I can’t make you understand it. Taking what I’d learned from attempting to spark King Grey’s reincarnation, I began the process of your own reincarnation next, into the body of a newborn child from a prominent magical family with some lingering Vritra blood. You arrived, as planned.”)

, managed to lead several asura clans and make them revolt against Kezees and the other clans who held massive amounts of power ch.84:

“After Agrona began leading the Vritra Clan, however, their strength abruptly increased unnaturally. No one could figure out how Agrona could advance the Vritra Clan’s mana power in such a short time. Eventually, through their rise in power, they were able to rally up more clans to share his ideals and the Vritra Clan soon led a faction on par with either of the other two factions.”

, with the clans under his command managed to massively revolutionise a whole continent all the while creating human-asura hybrids and managed to make every fifth Alacryan a mage — ch.193:
(“What have you managed to accomplish for their future generations that is so great that it supersedes decades of you conducting experiments on the inhabitants of Alacyra? I asked, playing along.

“I’ll answer that question with another question,” he gestured. “I know that the rough statistic of mage to nonmages in Dicathen is one in one hundred. What do you suppose the statistic is in Alacrya?”

I remained silent.

Agrona smirked. “It’s one in five.”

“One in fi-five?” I sputtered.

“Unimaginable by your standards as well, right?” He gave me a wink.

“I’ll admit that what you manage to do is impressive, but aren’t you afraid that with so many of the population as mages, that those who still hold a grudge will band up and revolt?”)

, is a type of person that always has several backup plans for the latest example ch.445:

Chuckling at the look on my face, he gave a little shake of his head, setting the ornaments in his horns to jangling. “Allow me to let you in on a little secret,” he said, smiling coyly. “Arthur Leywin—Grey—is doing exactly what we want him to do.”

“W-what?” I asked, unable to stop myself from choking on the word. “But you ordered—”

“Good steel is forged in a hot fire, isn’t it?” he interrupted, wiggling his eyebrows up and down. “You’re a tool, he’s a tool. Tools need sharpening, tempering—gracious, in Nico’s case, the tool needed to be broken down and reforged entirely.”

I swallowed heavily. This was how Agrona operated. Flippantness, sudden switches of extreme personality traits, vagueness…he always knew how to put his opponent off guard. And right now, he was treating me like an opponent.

“Nico nearly died. I almost died,” I snapped, stopping to point down to the wound in my side, blood soaking my clothes. “If you really are…tempering us or whatever, what are you doing to ensure that we don't shatter?”

Agrona seemed entirely unconcerned as he looked down at the blood staining half my torso. “Would you agree, Cecilia, that battles are won by strength?”

I sensed the trap in his tone, but I couldn’t see it. “And wars are won by the strategic application of that strength. Yes.”

“Not exactly, no. Battle doesn’t consist only of power levels. If that were the case, Kezess—with his vastly greater numbers and resources—would have successfully assassinated me long ago.” Agrona began walking again, and I had no option but to follow. “Regardless of whether you are studying lessers or asuras, there is a universal truth to violent conflict. The factors surrounding a battle—the emotions, interplay of relationships, crossroads between expectation and effort—are equally important to the outcome as the strength of the combatants.

“While the game of Sovereign’s Quarrel may have a near-infinite combination of moves, you limit the opponent’s range of creativity not by changing the game, but by changing them. For example, I was aware that Arthur left Dicathen with a lessuran phoenix in tow. There would be no reason to do so unless he intended to bring this lessuran into battle with him. Dragoth would have been a poor match for such a warrior, and so I kept him where he is, banging his thick, horned skull against Seris’s shields.”

“Viessa’s powers…” I started out loud, then trailed off.

Agrona nodded encouragingly, like I was a toddler taking my first steps. “It's a shame she died, I suppose, but she served her purpose. The lessuran’s impact on the battle was reduced, and even turned into an asset, disrupting Arthur’s ability to focus on you and forcing him to protect his companions while you were not so impaired.”

I felt a cold chill run down my spine. I hadn’t told him any of that; he’d read it in my thoughts.

Agrona was silent for a moment, his eyes tracking across the length of my body. “After all, it seems you were able to absorb some of his dragon bond’s mana, even if only a touch.”

It was too much to absorb while also struggling to keep my thoughts in line.

Or ch.436:

She took it. “Things are coming to a head, Regent. I can’t help but feel that Agrona is done biding his time. He does nothing without a plan, and even if his asuran nature sometimes makes him aloof in the moment, I do not believe anything that has happened is outside of his intentions. Even his defeat here in Dicathen.”)

Wren: Genius (Creates extremely high-quality (ch.123: “As much as a compliment your words may be, comparing my weapons—no matter how poor in quality—to the primitive tools used by you lesser races only insults me.” He clicked his tongue. “I had forged this sword as more of a one-size-fits-all weapon. I must’ve been drunk when I thought that was a good idea. This sword just came out to be a sharp tool, nothing more, nothing less.” Wren finally pried his eyes off of the sword and exchanged glances at Windsom. “But this makes things interesting.”)weapons for Asuras with special properties, such as Dawns ballad a sword that can shapeshift to best suit it's user and an unnamed sword that can measure movements (ch.123: “Boy, Dawn’s Ballad might be just a sharp tool, but it still chose you. I’m not proud of this particular piece, but I’m not going to take it away from you,” he replied. The asura then stretched his arm in front of him and a sword suddenly emerged from the ground below. Grabbing the sword by its hilt, he tossed it to me. “For now, use this while training. I created it to measure the movements the user produces and the force of the impact it receives.”), while to create those weapons there is no need to forge but refine and synthesise and this process is individual for each weapon:
Ch.124: Taking out a small, black case the size of a fist from his coat pocket, he opened it and held out a small, pyramid-shaped, opaque gem. “This is a mineral called an acclorite. Now, by itself, it’s a rather rare but useless piece of rock. However, with the right refining and synthesizing process that I will keep to my grave, it is capable of doing something remarkable.”

“As in, speeding up the training process of the user?” I guessed.

“Remember when I said I don’t forge swords, but create them?” the hunched asura asked, still holding out the tiny gem in front of me.

I nodded in reply.

“Well, with the use of this small little gem and the right tools, I can essentially grow a weapon.”

“Grow? As in, grow like a tree?” I reiterated, sure that I had heard wrong.

“Yes,” the asura sighed, scratching his head. “I swear, you get surprised by the most odd things. You hardly bat an eye at the fact that I can conjure a near perfect replica of your mate—”
Is a very precise pearson: ch.122:
“I doubt you’d be able to comprehend what I tell you.” Wren shook his head, waving dismissively at me.

“Try me,” I challenged, still virtually naked.

He explained that he’d been making calculations and speculations based on the milliseconds it took for mana to move accordingly within my body before it manifested. Besides the condescending tone he had used throughout his explanation, his insights were brilliant.)

Cadell: Above Average, likely Gifted (Is agrona's "right hand man" ch.372:

"So Agrona did not confirm Arthur’s presence in Alacrya with the rest of the Scythes, but he has told Cadell. Interesting."

wich you can't really achieve by just being strong (as Wraiths exist) as a Scythe was put in a leadership position therefore should have received proper training)

Lyra: Gifted (as a Retainer was put in a leadership position therefore should have received proper training, has shown great expertise in morally subduing and leading people, managed to without many hiccups lead massive amount of dissatisfied soldiers and desperate people to create a pretty stable and prospering series of settlements putting soldiers to non-war professions to a great effect ch.436:

The crowd around us broke up, the Alacryans going back to their duties, and Lyra gestured for us to follow her. We walked along between the rows of buildings. Most had planters full of herbs out front, and I saw where two wells had been erected. Everything was geared toward purpose, nothing appeared to be ornamental.

And all of it, everything, was colorless. Even the ground, where no grass grew, was just a darker shade of gray against the lighter cobblestone path. To our right, the horizon grew dark with greenery from the Beast Glades. Rows of raised-bed farming plots broke up the landscape. Dozens of Alacryans were hard at work hauling soil and water, minding crops, and erecting new beds with a combination of physical and magical labor. Beyond them, several mages stood guard facing the Beast Glades.

On the other side of the village, the northward horizon simply vanished in a heat haze above rolling gray hills.

“Not exactly a great view, is it?” Lyra mused, following my line of sight. “Still, we’ve done quite well here. There is a certain…peace to it.”

A keening cry suddenly interrupted the rustic silence, and it took me a moment to recognize the sound.

“A baby,” Sylvie said, arriving at that conclusion a moment before I did.

Lyra smiled and brushed the bright hair from her face. “Our first. An Alacryan child born on Dicathian soil. What exactly does that make him, Regent?”

I didn’t know, but Lyra saved me the trouble of struggling for an answer. “Our presence draws a steady supply of edible mana beasts out of the Beast Glades, and we have found several moon oxen that must have been far enough south when…and we’ve managed to start a few crops with seed sent by that Helen Shard woman. Yes, I’d say we’ve done as well as could be hoped, considering.”)

Also Addendum to Arthur (was recognised by Wren and could keep up with him mentally ch.122 :
“I doubt you’d be able to comprehend what I tell you.” Wren shook his head, waving dismissively at me.

“Try me,” I challenged, still virtually naked.

He explained that he’d been making calculations and speculations based on the milliseconds it took for mana to move accordingly within my body before it manifested. Besides the condescending tone he had used throughout his explanation , his insights were brilliant.

There’s still a lot to account for that you didn’t measure, though,” I interjected. “We still need to account for the environment that we’re in right now. I find myself most comfortable using fire and water elemental spells, but water-affinity mana is lacking in this area.”

“Of course I put all of that into account. How long do you think I’ve been doing this for?” Wren’s condescending gaze shifted, however, as he stared at me curiously. “How old did you say you were?”

“Nearly fifteen now,” I answered, calculating in my head how long it had been since I came here.

“Huh. Not entirely brainless, I guess,” Wren shrugged."
 
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Took time off my Riordanverse revisions to update the current profiles I've made for tbate
Starting with Arthur.

Filled out his intelligence section(I need references for the rest of the intelligence feats)
Added the abilities you outlined (some are already available in his base key. The "all previous abilities to a higher degree" covers that part. I'm not really seeing the reasoning behind blessed and empowerment. Maybe you could elaborate.)
I'll update his speed in the first key to hypersonic (although that maybe due to Realmheart)



I'm basically done with creating the profiles. All that's left is to add your corrections to most of them.
I was looking forward to making more pages (Lucas and Reynolds the most notable) but they are something we can do once the verse is officially introduced.
I have about 5 days of break from school. So I hope to finish it all in this timeframe.


Lastly, I'm unsure about some of the downscaling routes
Downscaling when there's a 3-4 times difference from baseline seems wrong.

If the characters slightly scale, we can put an "at most" rating on them or even scale them outrightly.

That should be all from me tonight.

I'll be dropping more stuffs for you to look over during the week.
 
Took time off my Riordanverse revisions to update the current profiles I've made for tbate
Starting with Arthur.

Filled out his intelligence section(I need references for the rest of the intelligence feats)
Added the abilities you outlined (some are already available in his base key. The "all previous abilities to a higher degree" covers that part. I'm not really seeing the reasoning behind blessed and empowerment. Maybe you could elaborate.)
I'll update his speed in the first key to hypersonic (although that maybe due to Realmheart)



I'm basically done with creating the profiles. All that's left is to add your corrections to most of them.
I was looking forward to making more pages (Lucas and Reynolds the most notable) but they are something we can do once the verse is officially introduced.
I have about 5 days of break from school. So I hope to finish it all in this timeframe.


Lastly, I'm unsure about some of the downscaling routes
Downscaling when there's a 3-4 times difference from baseline seems wrong.

If the characters slightly scale, we can put an "at most" rating on them or even scale them outrightly.

That should be all from me tonight.

I'll be dropping more stuffs for you to look over during the week.
I'll look into downscaling in my free time , for blessed and empowerment

Blessed is due to literally being blessed by aether (which does have a semblance of consciousness) but it can be removed if it not really fits

Empowerment is the ability to strengthen oneself due to various circumstances and outside forces that may or may not be under their control , that's how it's outlined on the wiki I think Arthur (pre aether core and even without 3rd stage) should have empowerment due to Aether supporting him and making his attacks massively stronger as aether is a force he cannot really control (at that point).
 
About downscaling (the only massive examples of my downscaling):

Ap/Dura/SS:
1.Dark-yellow - 7-C (5.8 kilotons of tnt; baseline) -> Light-orange - Low 7-C (1 kiloton of tnt; baseline) 5.8 times difference ( I think I can put light orange at at most 7-C (5.8 kilotons of tnt) as Arthur (who is admittedly a special case) could keep up with both dark-yellow core mages and even stronger people)

Speed:
1.Light-red - at least Transonic (343 m/s) , likely higher -> Solid-red - at least Subsonic+ (171.5 m/s) 2 times difference (Here i too can put at most)

2.Dark-yellow - at most High Hypersonic (mach 40) , likely lower -> Light-orange -Hypersonic+ (mach 10; baseline) less than 4 times difference (Here however I cannot put at most High Hypersonic as dark-yellow core mages already downscale so what do you think I should do)

Lifting strength:
1.Dark-yellow - at least Class K (356.9 metric tons) , likely far higher -> Light-orange - Class K (100 metric tons; baseline) 3.569 times difference (I can put at most)
 
Agrona: Genius (Managed to figure out how to reincarnate souls from other worlds on his own ch.193:

(“Wait,” I called out. “What you told me earlier… that I was the only one on this continent that you were interested in. You never told me why that is.”

“I suppose it does no harm in telling you.” Agrona tapped his chin with a finger, thinking for a moment. “Let’s say I’ve enjoyed talking with an old friend of yours, King Grey.”

, is a basilisk who are known for their Intelligence and being scientists ch.84:

“The Vritra Clan had always been an anomaly. It’s simplest to imagine them as scientists of sorts. While their innate magic is unique and versatile, it was never as powerful as the other clans’ mana arts. However, coupled with their genius minds and insatiable curiosity, they were always one of the central clans.”

Ch.362: “Do you know why you were reincarnated?” Agrona asked, turning away from me to look at one of the ornaments hanging from the wall. “You were reincarnated because you were close to her. You and Grey both. To maximize the potential of the reincarnation—to make sure the Legacy was able to fully integrate into this world—a sort of array had to be formed between her lives. I needed anchors to hold and bind the Legacy’s spirit. That’s all you are.”

“Utilizing what I learned from the Relictombs, I looked across worlds until I found the Legacy, and next to her, you and King Grey.”

I flinched, my anger flaring at the reference to Grey’s kingship, won by taking Cecilia’s life. “But you needed me. You said so yourself. Grey’s reincarnation showed you how to bring me here. Without me, you—”

“I attempted the reincarnation on Grey first, that’s true, but his soul never arrived in the chosen vessel. A simple miscalculation, I thought. He had been alive still, back in your home world of Earth, while my preparations for the Legacy had assumed a soul passed on from its mortal sheath.” Agrona cocked his head to the side slightly, his tongue running over his sharp canines. “None of this matters now, you realize? There is little to no point in discussing it. But…I suppose I can humor you, Nico, if only to watch you struggle to understand.”

Agrona shrugged his large shoulders. “Although I can explain it, I can’t make you understand it. Taking what I’d learned from attempting to spark King Grey’s reincarnation, I began the process of your own reincarnation next, into the body of a newborn child from a prominent magical family with some lingering Vritra blood. You arrived, as planned.”)

, managed to lead several asura clans and make them revolt against Kezees and the other clans who held massive amounts of power ch.84:

“After Agrona began leading the Vritra Clan, however, their strength abruptly increased unnaturally. No one could figure out how Agrona could advance the Vritra Clan’s mana power in such a short time. Eventually, through their rise in power, they were able to rally up more clans to share his ideals and the Vritra Clan soon led a faction on par with either of the other two factions.”

, with the clans under his command managed to massively revolutionise a whole continent all the while creating human-asura hybrids and managed to make every fifth Alacryan a mage — ch.193:
(“What have you managed to accomplish for their future generations that is so great that it supersedes decades of you conducting experiments on the inhabitants of Alacyra? I asked, playing along.

“I’ll answer that question with another question,” he gestured. “I know that the rough statistic of mage to nonmages in Dicathen is one in one hundred. What do you suppose the statistic is in Alacrya?”

I remained silent.

Agrona smirked. “It’s one in five.”

“One in fi-five?” I sputtered.

“Unimaginable by your standards as well, right?” He gave me a wink.

“I’ll admit that what you manage to do is impressive, but aren’t you afraid that with so many of the population as mages, that those who still hold a grudge will band up and revolt?”)

, is a type of person that always has several backup plans for the latest example ch.445:

Chuckling at the look on my face, he gave a little shake of his head, setting the ornaments in his horns to jangling. “Allow me to let you in on a little secret,” he said, smiling coyly. “Arthur Leywin—Grey—is doing exactly what we want him to do.”

“W-what?” I asked, unable to stop myself from choking on the word. “But you ordered—”

“Good steel is forged in a hot fire, isn’t it?” he interrupted, wiggling his eyebrows up and down. “You’re a tool, he’s a tool. Tools need sharpening, tempering—gracious, in Nico’s case, the tool needed to be broken down and reforged entirely.”

I swallowed heavily. This was how Agrona operated. Flippantness, sudden switches of extreme personality traits, vagueness…he always knew how to put his opponent off guard. And right now, he was treating me like an opponent.

“Nico nearly died. I almost died,” I snapped, stopping to point down to the wound in my side, blood soaking my clothes. “If you really are…tempering us or whatever, what are you doing to ensure that we don't shatter?”

Agrona seemed entirely unconcerned as he looked down at the blood staining half my torso. “Would you agree, Cecilia, that battles are won by strength?”

I sensed the trap in his tone, but I couldn’t see it. “And wars are won by the strategic application of that strength. Yes.”

“Not exactly, no. Battle doesn’t consist only of power levels. If that were the case, Kezess—with his vastly greater numbers and resources—would have successfully assassinated me long ago.” Agrona began walking again, and I had no option but to follow. “Regardless of whether you are studying lessers or asuras, there is a universal truth to violent conflict. The factors surrounding a battle—the emotions, interplay of relationships, crossroads between expectation and effort—are equally important to the outcome as the strength of the combatants.

“While the game of Sovereign’s Quarrel may have a near-infinite combination of moves, you limit the opponent’s range of creativity not by changing the game, but by changing them. For example, I was aware that Arthur left Dicathen with a lessuran phoenix in tow. There would be no reason to do so unless he intended to bring this lessuran into battle with him. Dragoth would have been a poor match for such a warrior, and so I kept him where he is, banging his thick, horned skull against Seris’s shields.”

“Viessa’s powers…” I started out loud, then trailed off.

Agrona nodded encouragingly, like I was a toddler taking my first steps. “It's a shame she died, I suppose, but she served her purpose. The lessuran’s impact on the battle was reduced, and even turned into an asset, disrupting Arthur’s ability to focus on you and forcing him to protect his companions while you were not so impaired.”

I felt a cold chill run down my spine. I hadn’t told him any of that; he’d read it in my thoughts.

Agrona was silent for a moment, his eyes tracking across the length of my body. “After all, it seems you were able to absorb some of his dragon bond’s mana, even if only a touch.”

It was too much to absorb while also struggling to keep my thoughts in line.

Or ch.436:

She took it. “Things are coming to a head, Regent. I can’t help but feel that Agrona is done biding his time. He does nothing without a plan, and even if his asuran nature sometimes makes him aloof in the moment, I do not believe anything that has happened is outside of his intentions. Even his defeat here in Dicathen.”)

Wren: Genius (Creates extremely high-quality (ch.123: “As much as a compliment your words may be, comparing my weapons—no matter how poor in quality—to the primitive tools used by you lesser races only insults me.” He clicked his tongue. “I had forged this sword as more of a one-size-fits-all weapon. I must’ve been drunk when I thought that was a good idea. This sword just came out to be a sharp tool, nothing more, nothing less.” Wren finally pried his eyes off of the sword and exchanged glances at Windsom. “But this makes things interesting.”)weapons for Asuras with special properties, such as Dawns ballad a sword that can shapeshift to best suit it's user and an unnamed sword that can measure movements (ch.123: “Boy, Dawn’s Ballad might be just a sharp tool, but it still chose you. I’m not proud of this particular piece, but I’m not going to take it away from you,” he replied. The asura then stretched his arm in front of him and a sword suddenly emerged from the ground below. Grabbing the sword by its hilt, he tossed it to me. “For now, use this while training. I created it to measure the movements the user produces and the force of the impact it receives.”), while to create those weapons there is no need to forge but refine and synthesise and this process is individual for each weapon:
Ch.124: Taking out a small, black case the size of a fist from his coat pocket, he opened it and held out a small, pyramid-shaped, opaque gem. “This is a mineral called an acclorite. Now, by itself, it’s a rather rare but useless piece of rock. However, with the right refining and synthesizing process that I will keep to my grave, it is capable of doing something remarkable.”

“As in, speeding up the training process of the user?” I guessed.

“Remember when I said I don’t forge swords, but create them?” the hunched asura asked, still holding out the tiny gem in front of me.

I nodded in reply.

“Well, with the use of this small little gem and the right tools, I can essentially grow a weapon.”

“Grow? As in, grow like a tree?” I reiterated, sure that I had heard wrong.

“Yes,” the asura sighed, scratching his head. “I swear, you get surprised by the most odd things. You hardly bat an eye at the fact that I can conjure a near perfect replica of your mate—”
Is a very precise pearson: ch.122:
“I doubt you’d be able to comprehend what I tell you.” Wren shook his head, waving dismissively at me.

“Try me,” I challenged, still virtually naked.

He explained that he’d been making calculations and speculations based on the milliseconds it took for mana to move accordingly within my body before it manifested. Besides the condescending tone he had used throughout his explanation, his insights were brilliant.)

Cadell: Above Average, likely Gifted (Is agrona's "right hand man" ch.372:

"So Agrona did not confirm Arthur’s presence in Alacrya with the rest of the Scythes, but he has told Cadell. Interesting."

wich you can't really achieve by just being strong (as Wraiths exist) as a Scythe was put in a leadership position therefore should have received proper training)

Lyra: Gifted (as a Retainer was put in a leadership position therefore should have received proper training, has shown great expertise in morally subduing and leading people, managed to without many hiccups lead massive amount of dissatisfied soldiers and desperate people to create a pretty stable and prospering series of settlements putting soldiers to non-war professions to a great effect ch.436:

The crowd around us broke up, the Alacryans going back to their duties, and Lyra gestured for us to follow her. We walked along between the rows of buildings. Most had planters full of herbs out front, and I saw where two wells had been erected. Everything was geared toward purpose, nothing appeared to be ornamental.

And all of it, everything, was colorless. Even the ground, where no grass grew, was just a darker shade of gray against the lighter cobblestone path. To our right, the horizon grew dark with greenery from the Beast Glades. Rows of raised-bed farming plots broke up the landscape. Dozens of Alacryans were hard at work hauling soil and water, minding crops, and erecting new beds with a combination of physical and magical labor. Beyond them, several mages stood guard facing the Beast Glades.

On the other side of the village, the northward horizon simply vanished in a heat haze above rolling gray hills.

“Not exactly a great view, is it?” Lyra mused, following my line of sight. “Still, we’ve done quite well here. There is a certain…peace to it.”

A keening cry suddenly interrupted the rustic silence, and it took me a moment to recognize the sound.

“A baby,” Sylvie said, arriving at that conclusion a moment before I did.

Lyra smiled and brushed the bright hair from her face. “Our first. An Alacryan child born on Dicathian soil. What exactly does that make him, Regent?”

I didn’t know, but Lyra saved me the trouble of struggling for an answer. “Our presence draws a steady supply of edible mana beasts out of the Beast Glades, and we have found several moon oxen that must have been far enough south when…and we’ve managed to start a few crops with seed sent by that Helen Shard woman. Yes, I’d say we’ve done as well as could be hoped, considering.”)

Also Addendum to Arthur (was recognised by Wren and could keep up with him mentally ch.122 :
“I doubt you’d be able to comprehend what I tell you.” Wren shook his head, waving dismissively at me.

“Try me,” I challenged, still virtually naked.

He explained that he’d been making calculations and speculations based on the milliseconds it took for mana to move accordingly within my body before it manifested. Besides the condescending tone he had used throughout his explanation , his insights were brilliant.

There’s still a lot to account for that you didn’t measure, though,” I interjected. “We still need to account for the environment that we’re in right now. I find myself most comfortable using fire and water elemental spells, but water-affinity mana is lacking in this area.”

“Of course I put all of that into account. How long do you think I’ve been doing this for?” Wren’s condescending gaze shifted, however, as he stared at me curiously. “How old did you say you were?”

“Nearly fifteen now,” I answered, calculating in my head how long it had been since I came here.

“Huh. Not entirely brainless, I guess,” Wren shrugged."
Also updated latest intelligence sections with references.
 
Here however I cannot put at most High Hypersonic as dark-yellow core mages already downscale so what do you think I should do)
We can just scale them to the feats they show individually
Or scale them as far higher than supersonic+
 

Found a new justification for Nico's post Victoriad key. Not as straightforward as others but should still work.

I'll really appreciate if you can get me some abilities along with chapter numbers for Regis.
His base in the Victoriad key can also need some update (can't remember him fighting anyone in base though)

At this rate, I should be done with corrections by the end of the week.
working on something interesting.
Looking forward to this
 

Found a new justification for Nico's post Victoriad key. Not as straightforward as others but should still work.

I'll really appreciate if you can get me some abilities along with chapter numbers for Regis.
His base in the Victoriad key can also need some update (can't remember him fighting anyone in base though)

At this rate, I should be done with corrections by the end of the week.

Looking forward to this
Small corrections while I'm working on things:
Aldir: should be Low 6-B in base instead of his current rating (High 6-C in base)

Nico: should be Massively Hypersonic+ instead of just Massively Hypersonic (as he scales to retainer class opponents)

Caera: should also be Massively Hypersonic+ as she scales to Nico
 
Need more abilities for cecilia
Need more abilities for her too
Small corrections while I'm working on things:
Aldir: should be Low 6-B in base instead of his current rating (High 6-C in base)

Nico: should be Massively Hypersonic+ instead of just Massively Hypersonic (as he scales to retainer class opponents)

Caera: should also be Massively Hypersonic+ as she scales to Nico
Fixed
 
Too lazy to link all the profiles again but I've applied all your corrections to the profiles.

Just waiting for abilities for some characters.

I've submitted the lightning perception calc to dmua
If accepted, the god tiers can scale to like 5c.

Also, can you come up with a "powers of the verse section for the verse page?
Something like this
Like most Shounen series, Black Clover starts at a modest level of power before becoming much stronger as the series progresses. The lowest characters scale around Multi-City Block level while the higher-tier characters range from City level to Large Mountain level. Later on, most lower-tier characters range from Large Mountain level to Country level, and the high-tiers jump to Country level+ to Large Country level destruction. Finally, the top-tiers are reached in the Spade War Arc, with many characters of varying levels of Multi-Continent level existing, and the Final Saga bringing god-tiers that are higher into Multi-Continent level and some even being Moon level to Small Planet level.

Black Clover is regarded as a very fast verse due to its incredibly early statements of light speed, although this topic tends to be controversial when brought up. Currently, the slowest characters scale to Relativistic speeds, with faster characters being Relativistic+. Light Magic is generally rated at Speed of Light and its superior version, Demon Light Magic is generally rated at FTL. Faster FTL characters are reached in the Spade Kingdom Saga, and the Final Saga contains the fastest characters, who are Massively FTL.

In terms of Lifting Strength, the verse is rather varied. Most characters tend to be comparatively unimpressive as most characters tend to not display physical feats. Thus, they a good part of the cast scales to Class 10, but there are also many that reach Class K, Class M, Class G, Class T and even Class P, Class E, and Class Z.

Like other magic verses, Black Clover has a variety of abilities, including ones that most mages can use such as the durability-boosting Mana Skin - which also provides Resistances to Heat Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, and Power Nullification - and the Statistics Amplification provided by Reinforcement Magic. It also has some notable hax at its disposal. Abilities such as Asta’s Anti-Magic, Julius’ Existence Erasure & Time Manipulation, or Yami’s Durability Negation via Spatial Manipulation allow many characters to fight opponents stronger than themselves, making this verse very formidable.

In addition, Black Clover is home to numerous devils. These devils have their own unique physiology, as shown here. This grants a slew of abilities, the most notable one being the Invulnerability of the hearts of mid-rank devils or higher; this requires the use of Arcane or Saint Stage attacks to defeat them, adding another level of formidability to the verse.
All things being equal, we should be able to publish the available pages by next week.
I'll ask an admin to look through the pages so any formatting correction can be made before we post
Thank you once again.
 
Too lazy to link all the profiles again but I've applied all your corrections to the profiles.

Just waiting for abilities for some characters.

I've submitted the lightning perception calc to dmua
If accepted, the god tiers can scale to like 5c.

Also, can you come up with a "powers of the verse section for the verse page?
Something like this

All things being equal, we should be able to publish the available pages by next week.
I'll ask an admin to look through the pages so any formatting correction can be made before we post
Thank you once again.
Sorry it took so long
1.I haven't found any serious fight in which regis participated in base.
2. I'll work on power of the verse soon.
3.Abilities:

Regis:

1.Flight (in 3rd form ch.400:
With a wide, lupine grin, Regis activated the Destruction godrune. His body blazed with the purple flames, his physical form expanding and transforming, growing huge and bestial, all hard, sharp angles and jagged fire and long black spikes. His head widened and flattened as obsidian fangs grew out of his mouth. Wings sprouted from behind his arched shoulder blades, and then I leapt onto his back.

Regis lifted up off the ground and gave a roar that shook Blackbend. He breathed out flames of pure Destruction as he wheeled through the air high above the enemy.)

2.Dura neg , existence erasure, regeneration negation with Destruction (same as Arthur)

3.Bodily weaponry (has 3 forms two of which are Aetheric wolves , in those forms has sharp teeth and claws which he can cover with Destruction ch.307:
Regis’s fur jutted out in hard spikes, gleaming like obsidian beneath the sharp-edged blades of purple flames that danced over him. His horns were sweeping spears that grew out from his temple and thrust forward like a bull’s, while rows of serrated daggers protruded out to form his fangs.)
4.Limited telepathy ( can speak directly into Arthur's mind ch.252:

‘Stay up against the wall and act dead, or at least unconscious!’ Regis asserted, his voice echoing inside my head.

Shit, what do we do, Regis?

‘Stay down! You’re no match for any one of these three right now.’

He’s going to kill me!

‘Wait! Don’t move until I tell you!’)

5.Incorporeality (in his 1st form ch.251 + ch. My hand slipped through its snarky face, the momentum causing me to lose balance in this debilitating body. I toppled forward, slamming my face hard on the cold smooth floor of wherever the hell I was.

“Don’t do that!” the will-o-wisp snapped before muttering, “…I feel violated.”

6.Possesion (in his 1st form ch.290:
Regis, I need you to go in there and see what is inhabiting her body. I wasn’t sure it would even work, but I thought that if Regis could go into Sylvie’s stone, perhaps he could inhabit Ada’s body as well.

‘Gross. You want me to go into someone else’s body? What if—’ I could sense the revulsion leaking out from Regis, but there wasn’t time to argue.

Just do it. Now!

The shadow wolf leapt from my body, paced once around our roiling pile, then hesitantly dissolved into Ada. At first, nothing happened. Then the struggling lessened, and Ada went limp, though her eyes still blazed with violet light.

7.A being of aether which in all ways is stronger than mana (threfore should have at least white core level abilities and resistances exept energy projection as aether is far harder to shape)

8.Regeneration at least Low-mid likely high-mid , Longevity , likely immortality type 1 (as a construct of aether does not show signs of aging , he is comprised solely of aether threfore should be able to regenerate from any wound that leaves at least a bit of his body with enough aether)

9.Fear manipulation and Paralysis inducement (ch.307:
A powerful roar ripped out from the throat of my shadowy companion, carrying a palpable pressure akin to the aetheric version of King’s Force that I had learned from Kordri. Sensing the danger, the three giant golems’ attention turned to Regis.)

Sylvie:
1.bodily weaponry (As a dragon has sharp teeth and claws + a powerful tail)

2.Comparable to early war Arthur threfore should be at least silver core (abilities and resistances excluding afterimage creation in her dragon form , without a seal comparable to late war white core Arthur threfore should have the same abilities and resistances + Longevity native to Asuras (which all Asuras should have))

3.Breath attack (ch.214: ‘My thoughts exactly,’ she responded, arching her wings to hover. Space began to distort as mana gathered into Sylvie’s open maw.

A golden white sphere formed and grew larger with every passing breath until it was even larger than me.

The sphere erupted into a beam of pure mana. There was no sound to be heard from the attack, only pure destruction as the blow marked the start of the battle.)

4. Enchanted Platform creation + Forcefield creation + Danmaku (ch.221:
Sylvie reacted quickly to my failed attempt by conjuring another platform beneath my feet for me to quickly gain distance from Cylrit.

Opening my mind entirely to my bond, Sylvie formed a solid panel of condensed mana beneath my feet at my request.

Cylrit’s expression didn’t change at my sudden approach. He merely lifted his greatsword into a defensive position.

I focused on a space about three paces in front of Cylrit, sending a quick thought to my bond. The timing was just a tad behind but another translucent panel formed beneath my right foot as I stepped on the space in the sky I had shown to Sylvie. This allowed for another quick change in direction as I pushed off Sylvie’s conjuration.

Sylvie, capitalizing on our discovery, quickly casted the spell she had been preparing. Like a brilliant firework display, hundreds of sparks spread with blazing trails. Rather than fade, though, the sparks of light remained suspended in the air all around us.

A wave of fatigue leaked onto me from my bond, but she remained determined to finish this quickly.

‘I need to concentrate fully on maintaining this mana art. Don’t let Cylrit near me.’

With a mental nod, I burst forward, using a condensed blast of wind to aid my acceleration. I was doubtful whether we could pull off the sort of coordination we would need to follow through with Sylvie’s plan, but I followed through with her intention.

Cylrit was obviously wary of the gleaming sparks of light surrounding him but his attention remained focused on me as I was the more immediate threat.

I conjured a single blade of ice as I approached the retainer. The spark of light beneath my right foot turned into a panel for me to push off of, allowing me to sharply change my direction. Another spark turned into a platform, and another, until I was dancing around Cylrit fast enough for him to lose track of me briefly.

‘Now! ’ Sylvie expressed.

I pushed off one of the many platforms of mana my bond had conjured directly behind the retainer.

As I resisted the force pulling at my conjured weapon, Sylvie triggered one of the sparks of mana hovering nearby.

A blinding beam of pure mana shot out towards Cylrit just as my blade clashed with his. The retainer, unable to alter his weapon’s ability in time, was forced to dodge out of the way.

I grabbed on to one of Sylvie’s suspended sparks to stop myself from tumbling. Four other sparks in between me and Cylrit’s thrown sword lit up and connected to form a large barrier.)

Cecilia:

1.Elemental manipulation (ch.355: Lifting my hand, I reveled in the response of the mana. The red particles jumped and danced, full of energy. The yellow hovered low to the ground, rolling and tumbling like tiny stones. The blue mana washed over me like the incoming tide and clung to my skin like dew. The green ones were my favorite, though. They had a cutting quality, like a sharp blade) (Wind-Sound , Water-Ice , Fire-lightning , Earth-Gravity as the Legacy)

2.resistance to memory manipulation+ more evidence for agrona's mind and memory manipulation (ch.415: “Tell the High Sovereign she’s awake,” a disembodied voice said quietly from nearby.

Now that the dream was over, my waking mind could feel the gaps between the dual memories—places in my brain where Agrona had replaced my original memories with manufactured ones. But even acknowledging them was like sticking a finger into an open wound, triggering another wave of vomiting that made my mind go blank.

I had no sense of the passage of time, and lost all coherence as my thoughts drifted from memory to memory. I could feel the fault lines between real and manufactured memories in the same way one’s tongue feels the gap of a missing tooth. Without any direct guidance, my mind seemed to rush from memory to memory, exploring the inner depths of itself, mapping out and making sense of the shift in my awareness.
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“I-I’m not sure…” I stammered, leaning back and letting my head rest against the wall.

Nico resituated himself, sitting more fully on the bed and facing me directly. “And you don’t think he knew? He can sense lies…practically read minds, I think.”)

3. Attack reflection (ch.426:
Enemy shields sprang up all over, and there was a flurry of return fire and counterspells. A blue bolt of lightning shot up from the ground, aimed at me. When I reached out to the mana, it froze, a jagged, dancing line of electricity hanging in the air. A wave ran along the length of the lightning bolt, starting at the end hovering fifty feet below me and racing down toward the ground.

Dozens of smaller bolts exploded outward from the point of impact, and I sensed several mana signatures go dark.

Something squirmed uncomfortably in my guts. Better a quick death in battle than weeks of torture and starvation in the depths of Taegrin Caelum, I thought.

Grunting in annoyance, I grasped the threads of each spell and pulled, dragging the spells off course and forcing them to cluster in the air in front of us.)

Nico with staff:

1.Elemental manipulation (fire,wind,water,earth) (ch.405 Although the staff had been charged for less than a minute, it had enough mana for a simple spell. Through the connective circuitry, I could still feel and manipulate my stored mana. I shaped it into the spell I desired.

The gems flashed, and a whirling jet of hissing steam billowed from the staff, out my open window, and off into the distance.

“That was water, fire, and air mana,” she noted with some curiosity.

“With this, I can hone my own spells the way they do in Dicathen,” I said, breathless with excitement and the flush of victory. “Shape them however I want, without relying on only my runes. And”—my grin widened—“I can utilize all four standard elements.”)

2.Flight (ch.426:
“We’ll find out soon enough, I imagine,” I answered, speeding forward. I sensed him follow after me, the wind s
pell he used to replicate flight pushing him along in my wake.)

I may also work on Nico's rating with the staff

Also everything is pre volume 11
 
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And yeah the thing I've been working on is really not that interesting (mainly because I remembered it differently) basically the idea of the multiverse in TBATE and as Aether is basically a fabric of the universe most Aether hax should scale to the cosmology.

Ch.424:

Kezess’s words lodged in my brain like a broken bone in a wolf’s throat. Although I knew Epheotus was a realm of its own, not a physical place on this world, I was shocked to realize that the asura had created it themselves, and immediately spiraled into wondering how such a thing was even possible, or where exactly it was. Were there more dimensions, places separate from the physical space where this world and, presumably, my old home of Earth resided?

The aether realm, I thought immediately. It must be something like that, perhaps even the same place. Before I could think farther on it, though, my attention was forced back to the moment.

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Knowing instinctively that time was running short, I voiced another thought that had lingered in the back of my mind since speaking to Kezess. “During that conference with Lord Indrath, he claimed that Epheotus was taken out of this world and housed somewhere else, and that the djinn were creating something similar. What is the place where the Relictombs are contained?”

“You should understand better than I, as you bear a godrune that connects you to the inner fabric of the universe,” the crystal said, almost sounding amused.

“God Step,” I said softly to myself.

Several layers of understanding settled into place, completing a picture that I hadn’t even realized wasn’t complete.

“The godrune doesn’t reveal hidden pathways,” I continued, feeling my expression slacken, “I’ve been using the connective tissue of this word, the in-between place where Epheotus and the Relictombs are, to move.”

The godrune burned against my back, casting a dim golden light through the room.

‘It changed,’ Regis noted, drifting down through my body to inspect it. ‘The design is more complicated.’

P.S:But as we see this Idea is just possible and not stated directly.
 
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