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Sword Art Online (Post-Aincrad) Kirito Power Downgrade
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Why are you tagging me? Not to be rude, but I already agreed, and I don't even like the verse
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I agree with dmua's post here:
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Asuna using terraforming is a native Stacia account ability and has nothing to do with her stats. Also, Kirito's stats are not max, they are 130-something. I believe I talked with you about that a while back.
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This was half the reason I'd feel more comfortable scaling Asuna to Konno Yuuki if anything. Recall that Kirito has gone on record to say that "Zekken [Yuuki] was a product of the full-dive environment itself" (or at least, that's what it felt like). Keep in mind also that the Cardinal system of full-dive tech was still used as the foundation of the Alicization Project.
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I have already agreed with the downgrade
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how can it be 4-b if the stars and galaxy dont actually exist?
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I definitely don't remember you mentioning Kirito not reaching the peak after 200 years.
I guess that part could be argued, but there is also her summoning a meteor in the fight with the abyssal horror which could get Tier 7 all the same... Dunno why I didn't touch on that. Maybe I just didn't think too much about if her terraforming was applicable.
I see you have chosen to ignore my input on this.
No, 5 earths stacked side by side by side is not a reasonable assumption in any capacity. The far more reasonable one is to assume it stretches somewhat into Earth's Atmosphere... An assumption I still think is absurdly inflationary as there is absolutely 0 proof to back it up, but.
4 times pi times 450000^2 is a surface area of 2.54469e+12 meters
A magnitude 1 earthquake is 1.995262e+6 joules
2.54469e+12 times 1.995262e+6 is...
5.0773233e+18 Joules, 1.21350938307 Gigatons, Large Mountain level
But again, there is absolutely 0 evidence space means "450 kilometers in radius around us"
The Milky Way statement is thoroughly bunk when considering Reki's statement that the Underworld's only generated 2 planets and a star. Especially when considering the statement of the fight being top secret, when the milky way shaking would result in the earth shaking far, far more, to a noticable degree.
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I agree with the downgrade.
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your first calc was accepted btw
Sword Art Online: It's not 4-B but it is pretty impressive actually
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I'm guessing this can be a possibly then?
So the conclusion so far is 7-C, likely 7-B, possibly High 7-A?
What about Star King's Moon Cradle feat?
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The Moon Cradle feat is the same thing as what he did in the war of the underworld, I'm pretty sure.
And also, no. It is possible, perhaps, but not enough of a possibility to warrant being listed on the profile.
The conclusion hasn't been reached, we're still talking about things.
And also, no. It is possible, perhaps, but not enough of a possibility to warrant being listed on the profile.
The conclusion hasn't been reached, we're still talking about things.
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... Wait, have we seriously been taking "The sunset turned into night" as "hmm yes he telekinetically moved an entire sky of stars"
Blocking out the sun's light leaves room for the stars to shine, that's how day and night works. The Stars are always there, they just aren't visible because the light they give off is miniscule compared to the sun. That is in fact, literally the exact same thing as in the war of the underworld.
... Good lord.
Blocking out the sun's light leaves room for the stars to shine, that's how day and night works. The Stars are always there, they just aren't visible because the light they give off is miniscule compared to the sun. That is in fact, literally the exact same thing as in the war of the underworld.
... Good lord.
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Gimme a moment. I think I know a telekinesis scan for the Night Sky Sword.
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Small side not but has anyone asked Xmark12 to comment here as well by any chance? He may be able to help too.
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"Ten thousand dots"
This doesn't really imply he's moving the wholesale stars as opposed to just balls of luminous elements.
As per actually valid discussions...
Even if Kirito's stats aren't stated to have actually reached the maximum, he should still scale to the Goddesses to some degree, considering he was able to fight Gabriel for a little bit (Though clearly not with an advantage, even before he transformed), and Star King would be way more powerful than that
I dunno, the more I think about it I'm pretty sure 7-B should be what high tiers should scale to, considering a random sword made from the wood of a tree out in the boonies is pretty unlikely to surpass the person adminstrating the entire known world or goddesses
This doesn't really imply he's moving the wholesale stars as opposed to just balls of luminous elements.
As per actually valid discussions...
Even if Kirito's stats aren't stated to have actually reached the maximum, he should still scale to the Goddesses to some degree, considering he was able to fight Gabriel for a little bit (Though clearly not with an advantage, even before he transformed), and Star King would be way more powerful than that
I dunno, the more I think about it I'm pretty sure 7-B should be what high tiers should scale to, considering a random sword made from the wood of a tree out in the boonies is pretty unlikely to surpass the person adminstrating the entire known world or goddesses
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Lemme guess... It's just gonna be another flowery fork...
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It's trait is to absorb spatial resources man, that is basic knowledge. You cannot take sentences out of context to make such claims... And also, the spatial resources were literally generated on the blanket anyways, so in this case, it's not even pulling the energy to itself...
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I am not sure what this "flowery fork" you keep mentioning is, but the concept of "imagery" is a middle school literature topic that exists in pretty much all literature.
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I’ll have to agree with the downgrades based on all the information presented
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It means it's not literal aka it did not actually happen but we use it nonetheless as a possibly tier
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I have everything covered in the original post. If you have a claim to make that contradicts that, you will actually need to make arguments. Not a "They are real stars though"
It is literally explained in the text that they are not stars. A star below the clouds would not show up as a glittering dot... This is basic stuff really.
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I mean... I know that the stars are described as prayers/hopes/wishes from the people of Underworld in the first place... Again. The feat is kinda weird. I mean... I'm fine with removing the War of Underworld Solar System level feat since it's extremely flowery.
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Forgive me for using the Anime as a frame of reference (AGAIN), but what in 19 hells do you call this?
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It's called Incarnate Arms and is a recurring technique for multiple characters in Alicization. You can pull a sword that you have a bond with towards you from a nearby place. It is not an ability of the Night Sky Sword, it's one of the many incarnate techniques. It is very hard to classify a very specific act with as broad of a term as "telekinesis". That's like calling a simple ripple on the water that was created with a single water droplet a "tsunami".Forgive me for using the Anime as a frame of reference (AGAIN), but what in 19 hells do you call this?
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