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So answer this i am pretty sure he does, though less then low 2-C has feats that are accepted
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Superman tier upgrade
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Derailing a bit further im pretty sure there are a couple of 2-C supermen
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I agree
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Lmao everyone actually agrees
Just wait till antvasima comes in
Just wait till antvasima comes in
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this is prob gonna be a warzone
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Nah a few people disagreed
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They already posted here though
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I've already replied earlier in the thread regarding these feats.
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But can a 4-B do such?
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The stuff about post crisis and golden age superman isn't needed. I suggest you guys try to find other feats. Superman has a massive amount of universal feats, and so do a lot of other characters.
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Captain atom always mentally limits his powers tho, he even held back against nekron when they fought
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Just gonna point out (if it hasn't already been pointed out) but you are comparing two wrong forms of Cap. Cap Atom who created/destroy the quantum Universe was unrestricted and this one here was restricted who doesn't use up a lot of his powers/abilities. The restricted version is Hella weak in comparison to the unrestricted version.
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We only have Atom as Low 2-C when unrestricted.
The leftover willpower of Hal was taking on the league (The Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan). Superman can probably scale to Hal, but upscaling doesn't make too much sense to me. Also what are Hal and Barry's feats for being able to destroy the Universe?
Wasn't that just due to him being the center of the Multiverse? Also that's dramatically above Low 2-C.
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Referring to just barry
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Manhattan himself was contemplating as he couldn't finish seeing the future then stated did I destroy everything or did superman destroy him.
Even at the final issue Manhattan couldn't so a thing when he thought superman wanted to attack him tho. But superman wasn't going for him.
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Same as superman everytime.
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Barry is capable of destroying the space-time continuum.
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Why are you addressing an argument I've already conceded on?
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That's via making a time rift. It's a blatant chain-reaction.
It's not that he couldn't do anything, he just wasn't doing anything. Like I'm looking over the last issue of Doomsday Clock, I can't find a panel where he's showing any worry. Am I missing something? As well as that, again, Dr. Manhattan is dramatically above Low 2-C. If you're pushing for a Low 2-C Superman, this would be way above that and wouldn't support it in any way aside from showing Low 2-C isn't the highest end.
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Sorry boss.
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That's The Flash-The New 52 #6, so no scale to post crisis
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Even though apparently the new continuity is a mix of New 52/Post Crisis, there should be a rule to not mix them around for CRTs.
(Except for some cases, I suppose)
(Except for some cases, I suppose)
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So it isn't a feat?
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It's a chain reaction feat
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I pushing for the teiring that fits him,not just low 2-C.
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Not a Universal one for Flash. Flash is making a time-rift that destroys the Universe, it's not him doing the work. Superman has never stopped Flash's time-rift thing, so he can't scale off of it either.
- I'm still waiting on a scan that actually scales him to Manhattan.
- Okay, then give him consistent scaling on Manhattan's level.
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A rebirth thread needs to be made on some DC characters tho.
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What do you mean?
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1. None,just Manhattan himself was doubting of he destroyed everything or superman stopped him.
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Some DC characters like
Wally west
Doomsday
Shazam
And more need a post-flashpoint key.
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It's not because he knew how powerful Supes was, he just couldn't see a proper ending. Remember how he "restarted" the DCU multiverse? For a brief time, everything went blank and he couldn't see the future. That's why he asked himself that question.
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He never doubts himself. It was just a generic "either you beat me or I'll win" kind of thing. Hell, he says "will I defend myself", meaning he wasn't even trying to defend himself yet. Superman only survived due to his resistance to existence erasure due to his importance in DC, it's pretty clear this was overpowering him. As well as this, you need to reply to the 2nd point and prove Manhattan level scaling is in any way consistent for Superman.
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Agreed.
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