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Ok? That still don't change the fact Wukong AP stomp Youmu, to the point of the whole arguments about her harming him don't make sense.
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Sun Wukong VS Konpaku Yomu (Lego Monkie Kid VS Touhou Project) 6/7/0
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It's the minimum as we don't know the exact count and it could easily go to 2-B if we really highball it
But yes the countless universe stuff for Lego Monkie Kid is at minimum 200
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I still haven't received confirmation if Touhou also has a countless hundreds of universes argument as well.
Bedsides the main argument for Yomu isn't killing him, it's stealing his soul
Bedsides the main argument for Yomu isn't killing him, it's stealing his soul
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Wait let me update my speed chain scale then: Wukong with Nimbus > Wukong Full Power >= XiangLiu > (speedblitz) Li Jing > Macaque with Susanno > Wukong Holding Back > Azure Lion with Jade Power > Trained MK with Nimbus > Azure Lion >= MK > (statued) Peng >= Macaque >= Mei = infinite speed
So I believe the speed scaling ain't that far off with each other
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So what is the point of the match then if the previous conditions that made it fair are not there anymore
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None.
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So Touhou can't countless hundreds of universes interpretation?
Then same logic still applies here for the most part with Sun Wukong just being infinitely stronger now
She still has invulnerability and soul stealing as win conditions
Then same logic still applies here for the most part with Sun Wukong just being infinitely stronger now
She still has invulnerability and soul stealing as win conditions
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You're not listening.
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The wiki allows even AP gaps that one shots if people find it fair and arguable enough
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Touhou is 80 universes, made an error in counting.
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No, he's right.Stop damaging yourself
Actual lolis in Touhou are completely different, you clearly can see if they're meant to be with a childish body or not, and Youmu isn't one of these.
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every single art... Even in Normal manga form... Wtf you mean youmu isn't one
There's not even one single image that's not a child...
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that's like a 5 year old... That's closer to a baby...
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Literally false. At best, the majority of her artwork makes her look young. But stuff like SWR and IaMP don't even do that. Very few actually give her the appearance you're describing
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you defending it this much is the problem...
I would kinda understand if they looked something like this with at least 1 image...
But there literally aren't... Even in non kid form/style
You definitely cannot convince me or others that that's an adult... The only one slandering Youmu is you
also let's stop... The conversation never become a discussion or a debate...
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All of us are cooked
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you defending it this much is the problem...
I would kinda understand if they looked something like this with at least 1 image...
But there literally aren't... Even in non kid form/style
You definitely cannot convince me or others that that's an adult... The only one slandering Youmu is you
also let's stop... The conversation never become a discussion or a debate...
...I refuse to believe you unironically sent me Rory, who looks extremely young and is like the main girl brought up when it comes to this topic and Emilia, who ain't even an adult physically or mentally (as far as I'm aware).
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just pointing out that you are objectively wrong. But we can drop the topic, sure. Pretty sure the score is 7-6.
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Touhou haters will call anything that doesn't have boobs a child fr....I refuse to believe you unironically sent me Rory, who looks extremely young and is like the main girl brought up when it comes to this topic and Emilia, who ain't even an adult physically or mentally (as far as I'm aware).What? Is make up what dictates whose young and old for you?
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just pointing out that you are objectively wrong. But we can drop the topic, sure. Pretty sure the score is 7-6.
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7(Youmu)-6(Wukong) because of the original set of rules yes, till the OP (I think) decided they wanted to add the match to either of their profiles and decided to get rid of the previously established rules in favor of their profiles now even when Wukong AP stomps Youmu.
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So, in essence, Youmu now has an even HARDER battle to fight but the potential wincons still remain I guess.
Youmu can't exactly be killed by him I assume so not completely unfair.
Youmu can't exactly be killed by him I assume so not completely unfair.
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The AP stomp doesn't really negate Youmu's wincons, since they were never about knocking him out with raw strength. Though they do negate her barriers and makes him being able to one-shot easier.
Wukong has a one-shot wincon while, I don't think, Youmu has any. I still believe her time slow and time stop could keep her from getting cooked, especially with her draining him as the battle continues. But uhhh... I don't know. Think I'll stick with Youmu since I feel like she'd be able to avoid major damage and gradually chip away at his spirit/stamina given her arsenal.
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Tbh blame the artists who cannot decide bust sizes in 2hou. Yuyuko is the main example of this.
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You don't know what a loli is, I don't think you should talk about Youmu being a loli or not. She's also not a child, like. She should be at least as old as Marisa and Reimu.you defending it this much is the problem...
I would kinda understand if they looked something like this with at least 1 image...
But there literally aren't... Even in non kid form/style
You definitely cannot convince me or others that that's an adult... The only one slandering Youmu is you
also let's stop... The conversation never become a discussion or a debate...
And here's how Marisa and Reimu looks next to characters who are meant to be children.
The three fairies of light ARE meant to be children.
Just because Touhou characters tend to lack bigger busts doesn't mean they're kids. ZUN is just not a gooner, doesn't view his characters that way and doesn't sexualize them. Except the cow lady.
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He dislikes Lost Word for a reason.
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LostWord is a bastardization of Touhou. It completely opposed his anti-capitalist beliefs while also making everyone OOC or a two dimensional version of themselves.
That being said, Touhou fans deserve something as bad as LostWord and worse. ZUN too, he could have stopped Touhou and more gachaslop from exploiting his anti-capitalist works for money, greed and capitalism but he didn't. He deserves what LostWord and gachaslop do to Touhou and the fandom at this point.
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This will likely be an inconclusive match added to each other's profiles later
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bro..
I don't think you read or understood my comment, the comment was about Youmu being arguable to not be a loli, yet even characters that look around their teens and can be "arguable" don't even look as young as her... That's how bad the not a loli argument was, you also being this worked up over this is absolutely insane.
Even the supporters themselves say they look like kids... So wtf..?
Also why are you talking about boobs... this is bad, they take it this seriously from something that was never even a debate or discussion to begin with..?
... You say that and yet say Youmu is older..?...I refuse to believe you unironically sent me Rory, who looks extremely young and is like the main girl brought up when it comes to this topic and Emilia, who ain't even an adult physically or mentally (as far as I'm aware).What? Is make up what dictates whose young and old for you?
I don't think you read or understood my comment, the comment was about Youmu being arguable to not be a loli, yet even characters that look around their teens and can be "arguable" don't even look as young as her... That's how bad the not a loli argument was, you also being this worked up over this is absolutely insane.
Bro said Touhou haters... I don't even know 1 character from that verse, literally just said the truth.
Even the supporters themselves say they look like kids... So wtf..?
12 years olds next to 5 years olds... That image does not help.You don't know what a loli is, I don't think you should talk about Youmu being a loli or not. She's also not a child, like. She should be at least as old as Marisa and Reimu.
And here's how Marisa and Reimu looks next to characters who are meant to be children.
The three fairies of light ARE meant to be children.
Just because Touhou characters tend to lack bigger busts doesn't mean they're kids. ZUN is just not a gooner, doesn't view his characters that way and doesn't sexualize them. Except the cow lady.
Also why are you talking about boobs...
this is bad, they take it this seriously from something that was never even a debate or discussion to begin with..?
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- Calls Reimu/Marisa 12 when in-verse they're 19
- Calls Fairies to be 5 when in-verse they're said to have bodies of 10 years old
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I don't care what they are stated to be... They look what I said they looked. You not trolling and being this serious to something that was never serious is what's weird
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what even is this thread anymore.
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...And what the hell is this comment?
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...Can we get back on the main topic, PLEASE?
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Yes... because she does.
I did understand, and I heavily disagreed. You used Rory which does NOT look anything like a teen to such a degree that she is
A) The main person people refer to as "ancient loli" trope
B) is described as having the body of a 13-year-old even by her own fandom. (Never watched the anime, so no clue if it's a canon statement or not).
Pretty sure I even mentioned that some do make Youmu look that young, but many don't.Again, is lipstick all someone needs to look mature in your eyes?
They don't. Unless people are talking about the fairies, I have not met a single fan call them kids. The closest I ever see is late teens, and even then "young adults" is what's more commonly thrown around... because we visually see them stand beside stand-ins for children.
You just wrong my guy.But dad he started it!
Anyway isn't the score 7-6? Is that enough for grace or do we need more votes?
I did understand, and I heavily disagreed. You used Rory which does NOT look anything like a teen to such a degree that she is
A) The main person people refer to as "ancient loli" trope
B) is described as having the body of a 13-year-old even by her own fandom. (Never watched the anime, so no clue if it's a canon statement or not).
Pretty sure I even mentioned that some do make Youmu look that young, but many don't.
Bro said Touhou haters... I don't even know 1 character from that verse, literally just said the truth.
Even the supporters themselves say they look like kids... So wtf..?
They don't. Unless people are talking about the fairies, I have not met a single fan call them kids. The closest I ever see is late teens, and even then "young adults" is what's more commonly thrown around... because we visually see them stand beside stand-ins for children.
You just wrong my guy.
Anyway isn't the score 7-6? Is that enough for grace or do we need more votes?
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I'll read the new arguments and hop back into the argument.
Are we now doing a matchup that can be added to the profiles? As in, no stat equalization?
