Sun Wukong VS Konpaku Yomu (Lego Monkie Kid VS Touhou Project) 6/7/0

[Fezzih_007]

Specific numbers approach is boring

Ok? That still don't change the fact Wukong AP stomp Youmu, to the point of the whole arguments about her harming him don't make sense.

 

[Not_Icarus]

200+ Universes is not 2-B

It's the minimum as we don't know the exact count and it could easily go to 2-B if we really highball it

But yes the countless universe stuff for Lego Monkie Kid is at minimum 200

 

[Not_Icarus]

I still haven't received confirmation if Touhou also has a countless hundreds of universes argument as well.

Bedsides the main argument for Yomu isn't killing him, it's stealing his soul

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Speed scaling chain for Youmu

Youmu [potential speed blitz since Aya briefly struggled to keep track of her moments] > Sanae > [Speed Blitz] Marisa > ¿Reisen? > Clownpiece > Cirno (strongest fairy excluding Clown and Wriggle) > Lily White (deemed a threat compared to basic fairies) > Moon Rabbits > Basic fairies (Possibly rating, but they don't change much anyway if you remove em) = Infinite

Ignoring how some of the characters had gotten more powerful since the initial infinite speed feat and the scaling chain missing many characters. It's probably not 100% accurate since I'm going purely off the top of my head. And excluding Remilia, who is probably faster than Sanae and, imo, slower than Youmu.

A more knowledgeable scaler could definitely give a more concise and expansive list. And just like Wukong, she can also amp herself, I believe.



Youmu has multiple ways of avoiding the chains. Moving is one of them or creating shockwaves to knock them away. He can try nuking the danmaku, but that'd barely matter since she can just continue bombarding without rest and, frankly, even if only one hit him per volley, it will eventually stack up as it continues draining him. (And maybe amp herself?)

Wukongs best chance is close quarter combat which comes with some more advantages for Youmu, like being able to weaken him and amp herself with her hits.

Personally, I think I'll stick with voting for Youmu. God I wish her profile was more up to date.

Wait let me update my speed chain scale then: Wukong with Nimbus > Wukong Full Power >= XiangLiu > (speedblitz) Li Jing > Macaque with Susanno > Wukong Holding Back > Azure Lion with Jade Power > Trained MK with Nimbus > Azure Lion >= MK > (statued) Peng >= Macaque >= Mei = infinite speed

So I believe the speed scaling ain't that far off with each other

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

I still haven't received confirmation if Touhou also has a countless hundreds of universes argument as well.

Bedsides the main argument for Yomu isn't killing him, it's stealing his soul

So what is the point of the match then if the previous conditions that made it fair are not there anymore

 

[Fezzih_007]

So what is the point of the match then if the previous conditions that made it fair are not there anymore

None.

 

[Not_Icarus]

So Touhou can't countless hundreds of universes interpretation?

Then same logic still applies here for the most part with Sun Wukong just being infinitely stronger now

She still has invulnerability and soul stealing as win conditions

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

So Touhou can't countless hundreds of universes interpretation?

Then same logic still applies here for the most part with Sun Wukong just being infinitely stronger now

She still has invulnerability and soul stealing as win conditions

You're not listening.

 

[Not_Icarus]

The wiki allows even AP gaps that one shots if people find it fair and arguable enough