Sukuna range upgrade

[Chariot190]

Again, I'm not arguing Sukuna was lying when he said his Technique Target encompasses space. However, in order to extend his range across the entirety of universal space, he would have to be able to imbue the entirety of universal space with his Cursed Energy, and so far we have no solid proof he possesses such an amount; especially considering the one guy with a Heavenly Restriction granting boundless Cursed Energy only has enough to cover Japan.

We know he did because he said he did, unless the translation is just bad and it's actually worded differently, in which case my b gang but that's if, I can only argue based on the facts presented.
There is no maybe in this context atm, he did, that's what he did so we know he's capable.

Could be PIS, could Gege being Gege, or maybe it's just the technique is simply efficient and does what it's designed to do at an exceedingly efficient cost due to big boy maho and sukuna being Gege's lil special boy.
All the same, I'm not here to argue if it makes sense, if it leads to speed outliers, none of that, just that it is described and shown to have such and such a range at peak and without any hard contradictions beyond stuff that doesn't even effect whether it would have that range or not, plus we literally get told what it already did, and even get a funny space shot in the expodump (so that alone is already making it tens of thousands of times your example assuming that's just from orbit not deep space).

If people want to argue speed stuff is an outlier, or that even the range is an outlier, that's one thing, but it being an outlier doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I thought Sukuna was stated to have the highest amount of Cursed Energy in the verse?

he does. over double yuta's (when not in 5 minute mode)

 

[MrTayman616]

No? The statements and context explicitly denote otherwise.

We might not be reading the same manga.

Sukuna's target isn't Gojo but the "Space" itself. (Literally the reason why it cuts space)

Not to mention the contradictions.

What other characters have do not effects this, we're discussing this technique, not the 50 other powers.

Huh? They're based on cursed energy, they have a limit of range.

No? Man there's a huge difference between AOE and simply range. It having infinite range on a 2D vector doesn't mean it has infinite range on a 3D scale.

Point A to Point B isn't Point A to literally everywhere omnidirectionally.

He hit the surface? If it kept going into the ground then we don't have a problem. Actually thinking on it, that wouldn't even matter? Having range doesn't mean your attacks can't stop.

You could have a bullet with universal range, and it stops because a wall got in the way or something.

Huh? I never said the planet will disappear or explode? The planet would literally be cut in half, it would be destroyed.

"A bullet with universal range can't pass a wall" isn't the same as here. This is literally a slash that cuts space.

You're basically trying to add conditions to it so it might make sense.

"Maybe it happened like this, maybe it wasn't like that" etc etc.

Yes there is? Burden of proof is on you here, you're claiming it has limited range and can't do what it's said, so show me. Your word doesn't take precedence over the source material.

So in a thread that claims it's range is at leats interstellar (or infinite), the burden of proof is on me?

There is no inconsistency. The only inconsistency is "this might make it fast", not "this might make effect the range".
Whether it's fast or slow doesn't change the range of it.

It effects the consistency when there are characters who can dodge it.

But let's assume it actually took billions of years so it can make sense or let's ignore it so it doesn't affect anything.

Actually, that's exactly what we do. If it's the same attack in question.

A good example would be older DBZ profiles, Goku and Vegeta would have had range based on their death (at the time) being seen from earth a decade later as a supernova-like explosion.
That explosion might have took forever, but it did cover that distance in the end.
Or even current stuff like Dimentio's 2-B range, it takes time for it to even cover universes, but it expands and ultimately will encompass all that.
Hell even Kira's SHA has infinite range because it can just travel infinitely away from him.

Uh, yes? that's why i said no one argues against something like that here.

Ok cool Gojo has a whatever speed you want to argue the slashes are feat then. Might be legt, might be an outlier, I couldn't care less.
This doesn't effect the range of them.

Gojo, Kashimo, Maki, whoever reacts or does literally anything about it

This is against the range argument because it happens in the same moment. "The slash that cut Gojo traveled interstellar distances", it contradicts the range argument, something that isn't clear or accepted. If it was so painfully obvious, maybe not. But not in this case.

Why ignore like half the words like all of, existence, encompass everything, and the words that actually matter here?

Because he refers them as interchangeable. Not that it targets so many different thing at once, the target is the space itself, the world.

Yes it is. It's the most blatant explanation on this wiki beyond "it's universal in range".

Your whole argument is it might maybe possibly be a speed outlier, this isn't an argument against the explicit range it's stated to have and even shown to have to some degree.

And what it did? Going by your own augments it doesn't even have anti-feats because it's always shown to keep going and cutting stuff and we've never seen them just stop.

Your interpretation of it itself is what i'm against it. You read it and argue it to be universal range. What i get from it is different.

The target is the world, the space. It doesn't refer to range but literally refers to the "space".

I show anti-feats/contradictions because it makes it easier to clarify the meaning from that text. Not seeing the end of it is irrelevant when where it travels would be the other side of the planet. I don't remember the planet getting destroyed by being cut in half.

Then stop arguing speed.

It should be Uni range because that's what it's stated to be, and the only argument you've presented is conflating completely different aspects of things like it might be fast or the actual AoE of the attack isn't universal too, to mean the range isn't, and failure to do so is actively going against our purpose to index things properly.

Why, the fact that you care about it or not is irrelevant when it shows inconsistency.

It's not stated to be universal in range, it's stated to hit the universe itself. It is literal here, aka cutting space.

Almost half your replies simply boil down to "no", or speed, or aoe.
None of which are relevant here.

I say it based on my comments overall, am i suppose to say the exact same thing over and over after pressing space two times :d

Got tired, so just sending it rn.

 

[OMsHanT69]

Even when Sukuna performs his world slash against Gojo, we see white dots (stars) at the background getting sliced which shows it at least can reach interstellar ranges

STAR LEVEL BASE DISMANTLE

Anyways those random white dots are just some artistic bullshit gege likes to do, not stars.

 

[MrTayman616]

STAR LEVEL BASE DISMANTLE

Anyways those random white dots are just some artistic bullshit gege likes to do, not stars.

We saw them countless times. They're not accepted as stars rn as well :d

That's why they say "Wait for the anime".

 

[OMsHanT69]

We saw them countless times. They're not accepted as stars rn as well :d

That's why they say "Wait for the anime".

Why is this thread two pages long lol

 

[OMsHanT69]

His world slash should be upgraded to universal as it target the world, existence itself which not even infinity can protect Satoru.

It's pretty clear Sukuna is using "World" and "Space" interchangeably.
In your own scan-

YOUR INFINITY MEANT NOTHING. AS LONG AS IT EXISTED WITHIN THAT SPACE THAT WORLD-IT WOULD ALL BE TORN APART.

How the hell does this mean he has uni range?

 

[Chariot190]

We might not be reading the same manga.

We are.

Sukuna's target isn't Gojo but the "Space" itself. (Literally the reason why it cuts space)

And? Did it not cut space too?

Not to mention the contradictions.

There's literally none.

Huh? They're based on cursed energy, they have a limit of range.

And yet we see alone it extends into space.

Huh? I never said the planet will disappear or explode? The planet would literally be cut in half, it would be destroyed.

Ignoring the fact you did. Why are you arguing it's infinitely wide now?

"A bullet with universal range can't pass a wall" isn't the same as here. This is literally a slash that cuts space.

It is the same here based on the dialogue in the scene and the scans presented.

You're basically trying to add conditions to it so it might make sense.

No, I am simply taking what the manga says and shows.
If anything I'm the only person here who isn't adding conditions or whatnot.

"Maybe it happened like this, maybe it wasn't like that" etc etc.

Ok let me blunt then.

Show it failing to reach a certain distance.
As it stands your words and every single scan are but incredulity and do not actually show or claim "No, it is not capable of doing what was explained".

So in a thread that claims it's range is at leats interstellar (or infinite), the burden of proof is on me?

Huh? That part isn't actually up for debate, we see a shot of that directly.

So yes, burden of proof is on you to show it failing to traverse some sort of distance.

It effects the consistency when there are characters who can dodge it.

No, it just makes it an outlier that it could be dodged.
Or maybe it isn't?

I don't care about the speed because speed doesn't effect the range it has.

But let's assume it actually took billions of years so it can make sense or let's ignore it so it doesn't affect anything.

I mean the space shot isn't actually up for debate, that happened.
If you want to argue it was quick, then they got a super good speed feat, it is what it is.
And if you want to argue it can't be fast, then I guess it took forever.

Neither effect it went from Point A to Point B tho so that's its range.

Uh, yes? that's why i said no one argues against something like that here.

And that's the case here.
Can it be stopped? Hard to tell actually but assuming it can be that doesn't invalidate max range.
Can it be dodged? Yep, this doesn't effect the range though.
Does it have small AOE? Yep that's also true but we're talking Point A to B distance, not width, height, or even length, just distance.

Gojo, Kashimo, Maki, whoever reacts or does literally anything about it

And? Stop talking about speed.
This is like arguing the multiple random infinite dimension movements feats in Part 7 of JoJo, somehow making the dimensions not infinite because baby boy transonic Johnny could react to them.


The very explicit detailed and visuals showing such things as being infinitely large, doesn't mean Johnny reacting to it somehow invalidates it. It just mean we got some speed slop that don't add up, not range slop that don't add up.

This is against the range argument because it happens in the same moment. "The slash that cut Gojo traveled interstellar distances", it contradicts the range argument, something that isn't clear or accepted. If it was so painfully obvious, maybe not. But not in this case.

We literally see it.
The uni stuff, is the only thing even remotely possible to argue, interstellar though? Isn't up for debate we see it.

There isn't even an argument. All your points are just it'd be fast or it lacks AOE, that's it.
You've yet to show it failing to travel some distance, you're straight up ignoring visual proof it's magnitudes beyond what you're arguing it is anyway so that gets thrown out.

It isn't accepted, but that's what this thread is for no? So what sort of argument is that?
Clear? It's actually very clear, I;'m not sure why we're being unfair to it, shit is like the time the 4-A OPM feat was argued it's actually just the moon or actually it destroyed the photons. Like nah my dude, it's pretty obvious what we're being shown.

Because he refers them as interchangeable. Not that it targets so many different thing at once, the target is the space itself, the world.

This, actively supports the fact he targeted it all?

Your interpretation of it itself is what i'm against it. You read it and argue it to be universal range. What i get from it is different.

Good for you.
We are explicitly told his technique encompasses all of space and the whole world, he can target anything within it, and we even get an accompanying shot space shot as he says the entire world.

The target is the world, the space. It doesn't refer to range but literally refers to the "space".

Actually, he explicitly uses denotations such as all of or entire.

I show anti-feats/contradictions because it makes it easier to clarify the meaning from that text. Not seeing the end of it is irrelevant when where it travels would be the other side of the planet. I don't remember the planet getting destroyed by being cut in half.

You haven't actually shown a single anti-feat.
You've simply shown it hitting stuff or characters dodging it. Not one of which involves range.
Your argument is actively disingenuous.
Who said it had infinite width? It could be 1m across and could have 2-A range.

Why, the fact that you care about it or not is irrelevant when it shows inconsistency.

Inconsistency for a completely different topic.
Shit is like arguing a JoJo character's color is different in this feat so the feat is wrong.

It's not stated to be universal in range, it's stated to hit the universe itself. It is literal here, aka cutting space.

It says the entire, all of, etc. You're leaving out defining words.

I say it based on my comments overall, am i suppose to say the exact same thing over and over after pressing space two times :d

You're probably onna have to unless you give evidence it's
1. A bad translation.
2. Shown that it has an actual range cap.
3. That's basically it every other thing you've argued is completely irrelevant.

Got tired, so just sending it rn.

"Yeah this slash attack can effect the entire word, and it even did so before throwing one out at you, here's a cool space cut shot btw hard confirming this thing can work on a scale magnitudes above everything argued here"
And we're legit arguing because the mach 3 fodder ca dodge it actually nope the range is wrong instead of dodging it just being an outlier.

 

[Chariot190]

STAR LEVEL BASE DISMANTLE

Wouldn't be any AP even if it bisected them completely, it's hax.
Also bisecting a star wouldn't be 4-C anyway.

Anyways those random white dots are just some artistic bullshit gege likes to do, not stars.

Proof?

 

[OMsHanT69]

Proof?

Those are regular ass dismantles bruh
He doesn't even know the WCS yet.

 

[Chariot190]

Those are regular ass dismantles bruh
He doesn't even know the WCS yet.

I asked for proof those white dots in a panel being used as a backdrop for "yeah the entire world btw" when dropping exposition for WCS, is "gege bullshit he likes to do".

Give me what I asked, proof of your claim.

 

[MrTayman616]

We are.

And? Did it not cut space too?

There's literally none.

And yet we see alone it extends into space.

Ignoring the fact you did. Why are you arguing it's infinitely wide now?

It is the same here based on the dialogue in the scene and the scans presented.

No, I am simply taking what the manga says and shows.
If anything I'm the only person here who isn't adding conditions or whatnot.

Ok let me blunt then.

Show it failing to reach a certain distance.
As it stands your words and every single scan are but incredulity and do not actually show or claim "No, it is not capable of doing what was explained".

Huh? That part isn't actually up for debate, we see a shot of that directly.

So yes, burden of proof is on you to show it failing to traverse some sort of distance.

No, it just makes it an outlier that it could be dodged.
Or maybe it isn't?

I don't care about the speed because speed doesn't effect the range it has.

I mean the space shot isn't actually up for debate, that happened.
If you want to argue it was quick, then they got a super good speed feat, it is what it is.
And if you want to argue it can't be fast, then I guess it took forever.

Neither effect it went from Point A to Point B tho so that's its range.

And that's the case here.
Can it be stopped? Hard to tell actually but assuming it can be that doesn't invalidate max range.
Can it be dodged? Yep, this doesn't effect the range though.
Does it have small AOE? Yep that's also true but we're talking Point A to B distance, not width, height, or even length, just distance.

And? Stop talking about speed.
This is like arguing the multiple random infinite dimension movements feats in Part 7 of JoJo, somehow making the dimensions not infinite because baby boy transonic Johnny could react to them.


The very explicit detailed and visuals showing such things as being infinitely large, doesn't mean Johnny reacting to it somehow invalidates it. It just mean we got some speed slop that don't add up, not range slop that don't add up.

We literally see it.
The uni stuff, is the only thing even remotely possible to argue, interstellar though? Isn't up for debate we see it.

There isn't even an argument. All your points are just it'd be fast or it lacks AOE, that's it.
You've yet to show it failing to travel some distance, you're straight up ignoring visual proof it's magnitudes beyond what you're arguing it is anyway so that gets thrown out.

It isn't accepted, but that's what this thread is for no? So what sort of argument is that?
Clear? It's actually very clear, I;'m not sure why we're being unfair to it, shit is like the time the 4-A OPM feat was argued it's actually just the moon or actually it destroyed the photons. Like nah my dude, it's pretty obvious what we're being shown.

This, actively supports the fact he targeted it all?

Good for you.
We are explicitly told his technique encompasses all of space and the whole world, he can target anything within it, and we even get an accompanying shot space shot as he says the entire world.

Actually, he explicitly uses denotations such as all of or entire.

You haven't actually shown a single anti-feat.
You've simply shown it hitting stuff or characters dodging it. Not one of which involves range.
Your argument is actively disingenuous.
Who said it had infinite width? It could be 1m across and could have 2-A range.

Inconsistency for a completely different topic.
Shit is like arguing a JoJo character's color is different in this feat so the feat is wrong.

It says the entire, all of, etc. You're leaving out defining words.

You're probably onna have to unless you give evidence it's
1. A bad translation.
2. Shown that it has an actual range cap.
3. That's basically it every other thing you've argued is completely irrelevant.

"Yeah this slash attack can effect the entire word, and it even did so before throwing one out at you, here's a cool space cut shot btw hard confirming this thing can work on a scale magnitudes above everything argued here"
And we're legit arguing because the mach 3 fodder ca dodge it actually nope the range is wrong instead of dodging it just being an outlier.

All this just for it to not be the case in the end

 

[Chariot190]

All this just for it to not be the case in the end

Prove one of these 3 things.
1. A bad translation, keywords such as "entire", "all of", or even past tense wording isn't there, this would render it vague and mean nothing by itself.
2. Shown that it has an actual range cap (Or I guess a statement cap too is fine) where it fails to traverse or move so-and-so distance without external factors like hitting a target.
3. Space shot is literally fake ig and is just suspiciously drawn backdrop over a cut attack while describing a cut attack that can target the entire world.
And do so without arguing how it may or may not effect completely unrelated facets of the verse or things that don't actually effect the argument like AOE.

 

[Gamecooob]

All this just for it to not be the case in the end

 

[OMsHanT69]

I asked for proof those white dots in a panel being used as a backdrop for "yeah the entire world btw" when dropping exposition for WCS, is "gege bullshit he likes to do".

Give me what I asked, proof of your claim.

I literally linked scans from before sukuna learned WCS that contain those same white dots?
It's just something gege likes to do to depict sukuna's technique.

 

[OMsHanT69]

I literally linked scans from before sukuna learned WCS that contain those same white dots?
It's just something gege likes to do to depict sukuna's technique.

Bruh the links don't work

 

[Chariot190]

I literally linked scans from before sukuna learned WCS that contain those same white dots?
It's just something gege likes to do to depict sukuna's technique.

Is this a joke? Every link is broken?
And you best not be talking about lil particle effects, kind of a huge difference given context and framing.

 

[Gamecooob]

Bruh the links don't work

do imgur

 

[OMsHanT69]

do imgur

Imgur is being a *****, it's not letting me upload

 

[OMsHanT69]

Literally had to beg my friend for this
Here.

Is this a joke? Every link is broken?
And you best not be talking about lil particle effects, kind of a huge difference given context and framing.

"lil particles"? These same effects are used everytime to depict sukuna's technique, are you trying to say that ever single time they were just some white splatters but not here? Here they are ******* stars?
The given context is that Sukuna has simply expanded the target of his slashes from things or objects to the space where those things or objects exist, whereas before he'd simply send his slashes flying into space toward his target now he makes the space (the world) itself his target.

Also why are we even talking about some depiction? Aside from being vague asf this isn't even a feat?

 

[Chariot190]

Literally had to beg my friend for this
Here.

Now show like the 100 times that isn't the case.

"lil particles"? These same effects are used everytime to depict sukuna's technique, are you trying to say that ever single time they were just some white splatters but not here? Here they are ******* stars?

Yep, context matters, especially because ironic as it might be, there's less in the alleged space scan.
How else, would you suppose they draw it if they didn't want to convey that? Or even if they did want to convey that?

The given context is that Sukuna has simply expanded the target of his slashes from things or objects to the space where those things or objects exist,

Yes, which, he claims, encompasses the entire world and all of pace, straight up on the same exact panel.

whereas before he'd simply send his slashes flying into space toward his target now he makes the space (the world) itself his target.

You're trimming words from the actual dialogue here and then framing it as far more localized than it's actually stated to be.

Also why are we even talking about some depiction? Aside from being vague asf this isn't even a feat?

Doesn't need to be a feat. Statements count.
Hell half this wiki uses statements for things instead of direct showings.
Unless we have reason to believe he's just lying, which we don't got, beyond "people can react to it", which has nothing to do with it, yeah, shit is fine to use.

But, for argument's sake, let's say you're right, based strictly on the words that come out of his mouth mind you, it would be completely fine. Every argument presented at no point has actually given reason why the words wrong.
It's all just arguments that don't matter like speed. Things that don't effect it either way like AOE. Or simply claiming it "simply does this", when in actuality it can do both and the existence of doing something it's literally designed to do, doesn't detract from the rest of the exposition.

 

[OMsHanT69]

Now show like the 100 times that isn't the case
Yep, context matters, especially because ironic as it might be, there's less in the alleged space scan.
How else, would you suppose they draw it if they didn't want to convey that? Or even if they did want to convey that?

Yes, which, he claims, encompasses the entire world and all of pace, straight up on the same exact panel.

You're trimming words from the actual dialogue here and then framing it as far more localized than it's actually stated to be.

Doesn't need to be a feat. Statements count.
Hell half this wiki uses statements for things instead of direct showings.
Unless we have reason to believe he's just lying, which we don't got, beyond "people can react to it", which has nothing to do with it, yeah, shit is fine to use.

But, for argument's sake, let's say you're right, based strictly on the words that come out of his mouth mind you, it would be completely fine. Every argument presented at no point has actually given reason why the words wrong.
It's all just arguments that don't matter like speed. Things that don't effect it either way like AOE. Or simply claiming it "simply does this", when in actuality it can do both and the existence of doing something it's literally designed to do, doesn't detract from the rest of the exposition.

Yk what? I concede, you are right

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

If the anime, a few years down the line, doesn't show white dots, remember that the manga is the main canon. As we can see, the space occupied by stars and galaxies - represented by white particles - got bisected harder than onion being sliced by a chef in a cooking competition.

Some people are acting like the universe got slightly inconvenient, even though the statement says the ENTIRE world WAS targeted. That is donezo - it already happened, not maybe/might/perhaps/mayhaps/theoretically happens.

That is the Japanese raw for all the haters/doubters.

Now, even though the official translation doesn't have "entire", it basically means the same thing in [cursed] spirit.

This is a superior Schrödinger attack which simultaneously auto-spawns on the target, and travels like a wave.
What stops Sukuna from auto-spawning a World Slash into a celestial object in the Porpoise Galaxy? Assuming World Slash ignores air resistance, gravity, and encounters no obstacles, what stops it from eventually reaching the end of the observable universe after a gazillion years?

Some people might downplay by claiming that Sukuna only targets a limited localized area of space in front of him. I disagree.

 

[MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden]

snip

isn't "targeting the world" just a fancier way of saying targeting space?

the "world" exists within the confines of space, so does every "existence", by targeting and cutting space you're essenctially cutting the world itself, i just have no clue what existence is, i can see the reasoning behind the intepretation of it auto spawning but such thing never happened, the only way to come to that conclusion is via the unknown methodology of the attack that harmed gojo but otherwise the world slash never auto spawned on targets, and its range is still limited by his preception, otherwise i can see the reasoning behind the attack being able to dissect planets since it cuts literal space in half and it only needs the proper range to do so, but once again, such potent range was never really shown as far as i remember


this is simply largely baseless

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

If the anime, a few years down the line, doesn't show white dots, remember that the manga is the main canon. As we can see, the space occupied by stars and galaxies - represented by white particles - got bisected harder than onion being sliced by a chef in a cooking competition.

Some people are acting like the universe got slightly inconvenient, even though the statement says the ENTIRE world WAS targeted. That is donezo - it already happened, not maybe/might/perhaps/mayhaps/theoretically happens.

That is the Japanese raw for all the haters/doubters.

Now, even though the official translation doesn't have "entire", it basically means the same thing in [cursed] spirit.

This is a superior Schrödinger attack which simultaneously auto-spawns on the target, and travels like a wave.
What stops Sukuna from auto-spawning a World Slash into a celestial object in the Porpoise Galaxy? Assuming World Slash ignores air resistance, gravity, and encounters no obstacles, what stops it from eventually reaching the end of the observable universe after a gazillion years?

Some people might downplay by claiming that Sukuna only targets a limited localized area of space in front of him. I disagree.

Question (asking since I didn't read the manga)

if it was a universal slash would it not split the planets as well? Aside that possibly contradicting things I do think the evidence is fairly straightforward

 

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

It's pretty clear Sukuna is using "World" and "Space" interchangeably.
In your own scan-

How the hell does this mean he has uni range?

WDym interchangebly? We also literally see the slash goes to interstellar ranges which enhances that Sukuna mentioning world, refers to the universe as world can only mean earth or uni

 

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

Thread abandoned

 

[OMsHanT69]

Thread abandoned

Ask staff to evaluate the thread

 

[Excellence616]

Won't this be Interdimensional range?

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

If it hasn't been obvious, I have been using humor to highlight problems in the position. But to critique this a bit more seriously:

We haven't seen the slash go to interstellar range. In fact, we see Sukuna's slash have limited range.
The trench made by World Slash didn't keep going ad-infinitum. Not only is it restricted by speed as it travels in a wave (which characters dodge), it is also restricted by distance.

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The white dots make for an extremely weak argument. As pointed in the thread, white dots were previously added as a visual effects to Sukuna's slashes.

The visual effects showing up once again doesn't demonstrate that these are stars and galaxies.

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While World Slash did cut the world, there are two observations when looking at the context.
1- "World" is used synonymously with "Space"
2- He cut a part/section of the world, and not the entirety of it.

He specifically split the existences within the world/space that he targeted. The existences outside that space was just fine.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

World in this context is pretty obviously in context to space and in that case In order for this to be uni or above sukuna would have to target a uni or above amount of space which isn't specified here at all, simply cutting space itself doesn't do that much for him range wise

Besides sukunas attacks already have a ton of range and his wcs just scales to his CT so he doesn't particularly need the upgrade anyway.

Disagree with the upgrade

 

[Thermor]

Now show like the 100 times that isn't the case.

Yep, context matters, especially because ironic as it might be, there's less in the alleged space scan.
How else, would you suppose they draw it if they didn't want to convey that? Or even if they did want to convey that?

Yes, which, he claims, encompasses the entire world and all of pace, straight up on the same exact panel.

You're trimming words from the actual dialogue here and then framing it as far more localized than it's actually stated to be.

Doesn't need to be a feat. Statements count.
Hell half this wiki uses statements for things instead of direct showings.
Unless we have reason to believe he's just lying, which we don't got, beyond "people can react to it", which has nothing to do with it, yeah, shit is fine to use.

But, for argument's sake, let's say you're right, based strictly on the words that come out of his mouth mind you, it would be completely fine. Every argument presented at no point has actually given reason why the words wrong.
It's all just arguments that don't matter like speed. Things that don't effect it either way like AOE. Or simply claiming it "simply does this", when in actuality it can do both and the existence of doing something it's literally designed to do, doesn't detract from the rest of the exposition.

Disagree as its just misintepreted effects for the scan.

 

[Arkenis]

we see white dots (stars) at the background getting sliced which shows it at least can reach interstellar ranges

its just the paint splatter art Gege does for almost every time Sukuna's slashes are represented as a white line. He does this for Black flash as well.

His world slash should be upgraded to universal as it target the world, existence itself which not even infinity can protect Satoru. Stated multiple times.

This isn't even an argument for the range. It targets existence because that's what he did to attack the infinity and Gojo because they both exist in the world.

 

[Arkenis]

Can this be a banned topic? Like genuinely, this paint splatter argument is dumb. Even in the anime Gojo's domain doesn't resemble stars, it still looks like paint with an eye in the background.

 

[Thermor]

Can this be a banned topic? Like genuinely, this paint splatter argument is dumb. Even in the anime Gojo's domain doesn't resemble stars, it still looks like paint with an eye in the background.

Let's wait till Chariot's response as he's the main defender of this thread. If he doesnt respond within the day, we can say concession is reached.

 

[Treeztarz]

Let's wait till Chariot's response as he's the main defender of this thread. If he doesnt respond within the day, we can say concession is reached.

i mean he is objectively wrong about the splatter thing

 

[Thermor]

i mean he is objectively wrong about the splatter thing

Well he mentioned he plans to debunk the current points against the opposition to prove his point.

 

[Treeztarz]

Well he mentioned he plans to debunk the current points against the opposition to prove his point.

i doubt thats possible, besides this thread is dead

 

[Huesito88]

i doubt thats possible, besides this thread is dead

He's busy taking on a DBS thread

 

[Treeztarz]

He's busy taking on a DBS thread

he was in this before that thread existed, besides, if i were to argue like he does, he has no ground to stand on since the statements don't match the feats