stupid arguments competition

[Sus]

what is the most stupid, ridiculous, cringe argument you've ever heard, an argument so bad it made you think the person who said it is trolling

also stupid scales are counted too

 

[Sus]

for me, it's always the arguments rimuru fans make, they make me question life

they treat an ability that has nothing to do with AP as absolute omnipotence

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"The Dragon Ball Z anime is canon because Toriyama 'everything is Dragon Ball'."
Everyone in Rakuzan used to use this argument, and it peeved me off.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Kid Goku is Outerversal due to defeating Demon King Piccolo who is the embodiment of Evil which is a concept.

Basically, anything to do with Saitama.

Kazuma is below Human-Level because he's "lazy".

Avatar fans justifying Toph beating Gara and the MHA Wank battles.

Sonic beating Eggman's robots aren't valid feats because it takes him more than a hit meaning he's below Building Level.

Goku (or any DB characters for that matter) aren't Universal because Manga Goku is Galaxy level.

Or because Goku can't lift 40 tons even though LS and AP do not correlate.

Thats all for now I'll add more later.

 

[Bernkastelll]

they treat an ability that has nothing to do with AP as absolute omnipotence

Which one

 

[Sus]

Which one

many of them, mainly conceptual manipulation and void manipulation

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

AoE fallacies get me everytime

"It doesn't matter if they have 99+ reliable statements of Galaxy busting because they can't destroy a single city!"

 

[Bernkastelll]

I mean, some of void manipulation in TenSura comes from Turn Null, which indeed is like an omnipotence thing in the verse, as it was a thing that the omnipotent dragon Veldanava had in the past, and he used it to create the verse, concepts, etc, and it also can be used to destroy it

 

[Sus]

AoE fallacies get me everytime

"It doesn't matter if they have 99+ reliable statements of Galaxy busting because they can't destroy a single city!"

happens all the fricking time, it's so annoying, people fr think if u don't level up a city you can never reach anything beyond that

 

[Sus]

I mean, some of void manipulation in TenSura comes from Turn Null, which indeed is like an omnipotence thing in the verse, as it was a thing that the omnipotent dragon Veldanava had in the past, and he used it to create the verse, concepts, etc, and it also can be used to destroy it

i know that but it never justify the boundless scaling, let alone how much NLFs they use (not rimuru fans only, everyone in general)

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Kid Goku is Outerversal due to defeating Demon King Piccolo who is the embodiment of Evil which is a concept.

he also broke the manga panel

 

[Sus]

he also broke the manga panel

plot manipulation? nah, 4th wall breaking? nah, omnipotence? yes

 

[Sus]

let's not forget the alien X wank
a character appearing in one scene saying there's 26 dimensions (when ben 10 verse clearly treat dimensions as parallel universes) is taken as an evidence of 1B alien X

 

[Sus]

or arguments who treats reality fiction differences as 1A evidences

 

[sanicspood]

Rakuzan

 

[Coolboy6]

Ki in dragon ball being treated as lifting strength

 

[Nullflowerblush]

sssshshh you'll upset them

 

[Sus]

how do i send like these

 

[Tarang123]

Ki in dragon ball being treated as lifting strength

…

 

[Tarang123]

1A sonic…

 

[Sus]

1A sonic…

what's their arguments

 

[sanicspood]

what's their arguments

jung archtypes

 

[Tarang123]

Pretty much. Transcending time and space, cho Jigen, etc.

 

[Tarang123]

Random assumptions that the sega cosmology has infinite hierarchies based on vague scans…lol

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Anyone still dumb enough to cross-scale mythologies and/or public domain. A good example is folks still claiming tier 0 in their favorite verses just for having H.P Lovecraftian characters in it, willfully ignorant of what a parody is or just how canon/creative license works.

 

[Tarang123]

Lol, by that logic gintama is Low 1C for viewing dragon ball as fiction. Tho… that’s kinda downplay…

 

[Sus]

Anyone still dumb enough to cross-scale mythologies and/or public domain. A good example is folks still claiming tier 0 in their favorite verses just for having H.P Lovecraftian characters in it, willfully ignorant of what a parody is or just how canon/creative license works.

wait people really say that???

 

[Catzlaflame]

this one guy pulled up a pic of a naruto billboard picture in japan and I KID YOU NOT was genuinely arguing that “”the concept of naruto”” is above fiction therfore naruto is the strongest verse in fiction the whole vc was on this man bru one of the funniest things I’ve ever witnessed

 

[Sus]

this one guy pulled up a pic of a naruto billboard picture in japan and I KID YOU NOT was genuinely arguing that “”the concept of naruto”” is above fiction therfore naruto is the strongest verse in fiction the whole vc was on this man bru one of the funniest things I’ve ever witnessed

man and i thought boundless goku was stupid

 

[Sus]

i remember some dude saying one piece characters can control the moon

that's it, no arguments or feats he just claimed that

 

[Tarang123]

i remember some dude saying one piece characters can control the moon

that's it, no arguments or feats he just claimed that

I saw some guy claim that 1A characters were beyond fiction.

 

[Sus]

I saw some guy claim that 1A characters were beyond fiction.

what annoys me the most, people who thinks tier 0 is omnipotence are the same people who throw the words "omnipotence" and "boundless" everywhere

 

[Tarang123]

what annoys me the most, people who thinks tier 0 is omnipotence are the same people who throw the words "omnipotence" and "boundless" everywhere

Lol, true. Same people that haven’t read through the tiering system…

 

[Tarang123]

People think that one R>F transcendence is 1A or even tier 0

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

wait people really say that???

Yup the now infamous and deleted Demonsbane verse got it's high ratings partly due to cross-scaling with the mythos.

 

[Tarang123]

Yup the now infamous and deleted Demonsbane verse got it's high ratings partly due to cross-scaling with the mythos.

Lol, at least it’s funny to watch people wank like that…

 

[Sus]

People think that one R>F transcendence is 1A or even tier 0

people completely ignore 1A+ and high 1A's existence

they jump from baseline 1A to boundless with 0 proof

 

[MistaClean]

"Saitama is Tier 0 because he's never meant to lose."

 

[Apeironaxim]

"Saitama is Tier 0 because he's never meant to lose."

I wonder if the people who use the narrative arguments would short circuit if you brought other characters with the same kind of premise, aka "Not meant to lose/always wins"

 

[Sus]

I wonder if the people who use the narrative arguments would short circuit if you brought other characters with the same kind of premise, aka "Not meant to lose/always wins"

i debated someone and told him that countless characters are on a troll level beyond Saitama and gave examples, also kept giving characters stronger and ALSO kept giving arguments on why they beat him
he simply replied "Saitama is parody and is meant to make fun of these" i obviously stated that even SpongeBob does this, he basically kept repeating his arguments

let me note that he said I'm lifeless after i completely debunked his arguments
he also used like 16777216 fallacies in a single message