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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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happy birthday murata
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Man only now is the 2 month hiatus dawning on me. So much misery...but I hope Murata having a good b-day.
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Is anyone here also collecting the physical volumes ? These bonus stuff are really something else
Anyway, have anyone posted a thread to add the current stuff we have for this arc ? This 2 month break can be useful if we use it to apply everything in two parts and avoid adding everything into a single CRT
Anyway, have anyone posted a thread to add the current stuff we have for this arc ? This 2 month break can be useful if we use it to apply everything in two parts and avoid adding everything into a single CRT
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Did the sperm fight get any differences?
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he was also an animator for the season 2 of opm yes?
i wonder if this is his "fan-made" production or a sneak from the original season 3, since it would mean season 3 would have 24 episode or so.
though it doesn't make sense considering the volumes.
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Sad that it is quite literally a strict downgrade from the online version.
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MWI is Low 1-C. Infinite branching points that diverge infinitely results in uncountable universes.
Idk how High 1-B would be given.
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based on the space that contains the MWI multiverse is hilbert space.
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That's just 2-A. You'd need to have a 2-A space as the baseline to get Low 1-C afaik.
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It's not just 2-A.
It's like the MCU Multiverse, essentially. Each point in time (which there is an infinite amount of) diverges into infinite branches, which themselves diverge into infinite branches, so on and so fourth.
Even wikipedia mentions the number being uncountable.
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The MCU is Low 1-C because a Timeline is 2-A at base, which then has branches that go on forever. So it's starting at infinite 4D before the recursive stuff happens. OPM doesn't currently have that.
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I'm not talking about OPM. I'm talking about the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics in the real world...
Also, the number of universes it starts with doesn't matter, mathematically speaking. I don't know why it would. It ends up being the same uncountable cardinal regardless of if you start with 1 or aleph-0 universes.
The 1 universe immediately becomes infinite universes anyway in the next infinitesimal unit of time, since it branches out with all the quantum possibilities, which there are an infinite number off. And then you repeat the same math and end up with Aleph-1 universes regardless.
Donno why the starting count would matter. It isn't the number you start with that makes it uncountable, it's the fact that you repeatedly multiply that set of space-time by infinity an infinite amount of times.
You are basically comparing
1 x infinity^infinity
To
Infinity x Infinity^infinity
Both of these are mathematically equal to Aleph-1
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Wikipedia gives two sources. Checking them they are
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The former article says this
Which is just 2-A. The only time an uncountable infinite is introduced is here
Which requires that you prove Hilbert Space mathematics exist within the cosmology.
The second source literally just gives what our version of 2-A is based on
So the source Wikipedia gives wouldn't automatically translate to every verse with MWI have an uncountable infinite number of worlds.
What you described is a countable infinity. Since the numbers can be organized in a [A, B, C] fashion. You wouldn't get an uncountable number with that method.
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I explained the math of this in this MLP thread which intended to upgrade a multiverse similar to MWI to Low 1-C.
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You end up with Aleph 1 because you are multiplying Aleph-0 (number of universes obtained after a single branch) by Aleph-0 (the branches each multiply out to infinite more branches) and Aleph-0 amount of times (this happens at every point in time across an infinite timeline)
This results in Aleph-0^Aleph-0, which is Aleph-1
Whether you multiply that by another Aleph-0 (assuming you start with 2-A) or by 1 (assuming you start with Low 2-C), it remains mathematically equivalent.
Is My Little Pony Low 1-C? Let's Find Out.
I'm a bit bored right now, so let's try this. On this thread it was brought up that MLP could not only qualify for 2-A (Which is currently accepted), but Low 1-C. I will explain why. I would like to premise this by saying I want to keep this thread short and to the point. One of my issues with...
You end up with Aleph 1 because you are multiplying Aleph-0 (number of universes obtained after a single branch) by Aleph-0 (the branches each multiply out to infinite more branches) and Aleph-0 amount of times (this happens at every point in time across an infinite timeline)
This results in Aleph-0^Aleph-0, which is Aleph-1
Whether you multiply that by another Aleph-0 (assuming you start with 2-A) or by 1 (assuming you start with Low 2-C), it remains mathematically equivalent.
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This is broken link wise
EDIT: You fixed the link ignore
That's not how that works to my understanding. Infinity^3 is still equal to Infinity. Even Infinity^Infinity is just Infinity because of Set Theory.
The point of the branches is recursion giving you a power set or the ability to reach a Real Number Set of universes, which are uncountable. Which is why MWI doesn't give you an uncountable infinite in the majority of cases.
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This isn't infinity^3. That would just be infinity x infinity x infinity.
Here you are multiplying by infinity an infinite amount of times.
That is infinity x infinity x infinity x infinity... Forever. I explained that on the thread.
This is infinity^infinity.
I also explained on the thread this is Aleph-1 in set theory due to "Continuum Hypothesis" which is taken as a fact on this wiki.
Continuum Hypothesis in simple terms says that 2^Aleph-0 is Aleph-1. Thus, Aleph-0^Aleph-0 is also Aleph-1.
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Which is still 2-A. Since you can go: Natural -> Integer which is still a set of countable infinities despite one being larger than the other.
No, Continuum Hypothesis is that you can't have a set of Rational numbers. It would either be a set Integers or Real numbers, which is a countable and uncountable infinity respectively. Infinity^infinity still wouldn't be an uncountable set afaik, since it would be contained within an Integer Set.
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Did you read my next sentence. I'm saying what I said is not just Infinity^3. Sigh.
Are you reading the wrong thing?
Vsauce explains what I'm saying in this video.
At around the 17 minute mark.
Also, wikipedia cites the same thing.
Continuum hypothesis - Wikipedia
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I did but I was working off a different idea.
I don't think so. The point about it is that there's nothing between the cardinal sets. It's either a countable infinity or an uncountable infinity that keeps increasing.
Though for infinity^infinity you're right that it would go into Aleph-1 since it would reach an unmeasurable number. Though to the best of my knowledge that still doesn't mean MWI defaults to Low 1-C since you'd need to prove more things about it as MWI still has different interpretations of how it actually works.
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This is part of the continuum Hypothesis yeah. But the 2^Aleph-0 thing is a pretty important part lol.
I mean MWI doesn't default to Low 1-C simply because fiction doesn't tend to stick to the interpretation faithfully a lot of the time/we tend to go with the most low balled version of things.
It's like how we used to put Ultimate Ensembles/Type IV Multiverses in Low 1-A to High 1-A, despite the actual interpretation encompassing literally all of mathematics. Or how we didn't assume Platonic Forms were some crazy high tier.
Obviously with the newer tiering system this is not longer an issue (I think), but yeah it's just that fiction doesn't really stick to the theories a lot of the time.
Pretty sure MWI as it exists generally in quantum mechanics is just Low 1-C though. Potentially even higher.
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What if the universe is 11-dimensional (Gurren Lagann universe)? Does that means we get to 1-B by using MWI(Multiverse Labyrinth) ?
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Idk. I mean, personally, I would say yeah. But staffs on this wiki are strict as fuuuck
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No. Because the Labyrinth wouldn't qualify for an stacked infinity chain.
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How ?
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Because it's infinite universes based on alternate choices going by the source page. The Aleph-1 variant requires an infinite line, branching infinitely that then branching infinitely as well.
GL would just be High 1-C rather than 1-B.
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one question, why does the censor don't censor swear words in other languages?i mean i can say puta or mierda or JODETE, but no censor.
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I don't know. Presumably only English was considered for the filter.
