Strongest dog vs Strongest cat

[The_real_cal_howard]

The Presence vs Bernkastel. Sorry if this is a stomp, but this theme was too good to pass up.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Bernkastel is a long-haired girl.

As you know, long-haired girls are the meaning of life.

The Presence cannot compete with the meaning of life.

Bernkastel wins.

(For a legit answer, no idea)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Regardless, still deserves a kudos ovo

 

[Dust_Collector]

"long-haired girls are the meaning of life"

You appear to have misspelled short-haired.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I didn't log in this morning to get my way of life criticized by some buff penguin who collects dust in the corner.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I wouldn't of had to criticise your poor way of life if you didn't make such a wrong statement.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Bernkastel wins because C a t s a r e s u p r e m e

also why are people criticizing the way of life of each other ┬░ ^ ┬░

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Me looking at another Cal weird thread.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Dogs are stronger than cats. Presence stomps.

 

[Heilergott]

My cat would like to disagree. Cat rules supreme.

 

[Noahkaismith]

You wanna go? My dog can wreck your cat any day of the week.

 

[Heilergott]

Nah. My cat fodderizes dogs 10 times her weight lul

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Animal bump.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Yeah voting for Bernkastel FRA.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Nah. My cat fodderizes dogs 10 times her weight lul

10 times? Come at me bro.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

I legit thought this was fun and games board for some reason

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Seriously tho, if Bern vs Nya was fair, and Pres vs Umir was fair, and Umir > Nya, The Presence wins via slight AP advantage

 

[Noahkaismith]

Seriously tho, if Bern vs Nya was fair, and Pres vs Umir was fair, and Umir > Nya, The Presence wins via slight AP advantage

ABC logic shouldn't be applied, but you have a point.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It's just AP scaling, thats all.

 

[Xmark12]

At this level of power, I think hax would matter much more...

 

[Noahkaismith]

It does, but AP always matters.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

>'Umr at-Tawil being above true Nyar

No.

 

[Noahkaismith]

>'Umr at-Tawil being above true Nyar
No.

High 1-A > 1-A

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

It's true that 'Umr (1-A) is the same as True Yog-Sothoth (High 1-A)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

It was discussed here that Nyarlathotep would stomp Hajun, and that Umr at-Tawil was a better match actually comparable to him, and here, Bernkastel might be winning against Nyarlathotep. It was also agreed that Bernkastel's weakest avatars, and even Maria Ushiromiya in her 1-A key would stomp Hajun, so I don't really see the Presence doing much to her.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

High 1-A > 1-A

Umr at-Tawil is the 1-A key. If I recall correctly, Umr at-Tawil exists just beyond the First Gate, guarding it, and Nyarlathotep exists inaccessibly in comparison, beyond the Second Gate, far beyond the reach of Umr at-Tawil.

 

[ALRF]

Maria stomping Hajun? Since when?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:1278081

I think we spoke about it here. It was because Maria was immune to the damage of basically the weakest avatar of Bernkastel, who should be capable of easily defeating Hajun.

 

[Sera_EX]

Okay this 1-A nonsense is really starting to get on my nerves. 3/4 of the people debating these things have no idea what they're talking about. I'm fixing to get them banned again...honestly.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

What's the problem?

 

[ALRF]

Stupid scaling that's what

 

[Sera_EX]

It was decided that Yatou beats Michael. Hajun is endlessly above Yatou. That tells me that Maria and Bern's weakest avatars are greater than Michael. Pardon my language but that is '''supreme''' bullshit.

 

[ALRF]

Ryuusui Mikado alone can stomp Maria

Gudou gets no love i tell you xD

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

If 1-A battles are dependant upon just power basically, and Bern's avatar according to DarkLK is inaccessibly above other 1-A characters in the same manner that Hajun is to Tenma Yatou and the same manner that Umr at-Tawil is to Hypnos, and said avatar is incapable of hurting Maria at her strongest, then I don't really see the complication here.

 

[Sera_EX]

That's not the case though.

 

[DMUA]

Bernkastel looks like a baseline 1-A, judging by her profile.

The presence is a 1-A that vastly dwarfs both Michael and Lucifer.

So... Pretty cut and dry.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

How isn't it?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

@DMUA, DarkLK and Azathoth said that basically every Umineko character page is very outdated. I'm not entirely sure why we're using them when their profiles don't properly explain how powerful they actually are.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1239184

This was discussed here.

 

[Sera_EX]

Same goes for the Masadaverse pages. The explanations are kinda crap.

 

[DMUA]

We should probably fix them then and come back here.