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Strongest Character for Every Tier 30

Overlord775 said:
2-B reality warping and probability hax should counter that
Also Cueball loses to those guys, as he can't do anything to non-existant beings
Not unless they have shown to work on non-existent beings

Actually no, if Cueball cannot interact with them then he incaps naturally. Don't forget that motion itself and action cannot happen without Cueball making it happen, so they will not move within his domain
 
Being able to affect a 4-D structure is a better feat than being able to affect non-existance

Also motion and actions don't mean anything to a non-existant being
 
That is completely false. Effecting something that does not exist is a completely different kind of feat, and they are not comparable in any fashion. That is the equivalent of saying that I can blow up a planet because I can effect an abstract entity, or vice versa. They are just different feats completely.

Depends on the type of non existent being. Something like nobodies need it as far as I know, but someone like Oblivion doesn't. It depends on how they are connected to the existent universe relative to eachother, if that makes sense.
 
Overlord775 said:
If they can be affected by motion then how do you expect them to resist fate and probability hax?
Again, it depends on how the non-existent being works and also how the specific fate and probability hax work. Cueball is a very special case, because all motion and interaction only happens because of him. You are faster than him? You don't get to move at a speed faster than he can percieve because he makes speed a thing. He cannot percieve you? Then you don't get to act because what he does not move does not move at all. And on a side note, cueball has both probability and fate hax as well.

But I will say this again, whether or not motion happens has nothing to do with whether fate can effect you or not. They are completely different things that cannot be compared like this
 
Well the main reason Culexus Assassins aren't on the list yet is because there's another High 8-C with 1-A summons or something. And I don't think the match between them has concluded yet.
 
They are in a fight at the moment and its being discussed who wins,

But its between the Culexus and Dunwitch Horror.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Yeah, but that requires the chance to summon.
Yeah, but you need to have the capacity to reliably effect a being with great old one physiology. It also has passive mind hax, and 1-A type 9 immortality with low godly regen
 
The real cal howard said:
Dunwich Horror is not nearly a candidate here to anyone who's actually read the story.
I have read the story. The thing was only at capacity to do its stuff at the very end, and didn't wanna do its Summoning until it reached the hills. Its CIS ridden, but it isn't weak
 
The only difference between it by the end of the story and earlier was its size and Wilbur Whately being dead. I don't doubt its summoning. Because that's a legitimate thing. It can be easily killed though. Its physiology should be far closer to Wilbur's than the GOOs.
 
The real cal howard said:
The only difference between it by the end of the story and earlier was its size and Wilbur Whately being dead. I don't doubt its summoning. Because that's a legitimate thing. It can be easily killed though. Its physiology should be far closer to Wilbur's than the GOOs.
And it being more grown up and developed. Also, it wasn't "easily" killed by any means. The spell that killed it came from the same book that brought forth the thing, and it removed the foundation for it's very existence. Its physiology is definitely further from Wilbur, at least if we take the more human part of Wilbur
 
Wilbur is his twin. They have the same amount of Yog in them. And he was killed by dogs. That's not an exaggeration, that's not simplifying the fact of the matter. Wilbur was killed by a normal dog. Not saying Dunwich would fall to the same fate, but its physiology shouldn't make it immune to conventional damage on its level because Wilbur's physiology didn't same him.
 
Overlord775 said:
and The player has three times as much hax as him
More hax =/= better. Dracmon's has a 4-D hax that simply requires line of sight with the eyes of its hands...that he always keeps raised in the air.
 
The real cal howard said:
Wilbur is his twin. They have the same amount of Yog in them. And he was killed by dogs. That's not an exaggeration, that's not simplifying the fact of the matter. Wilbur was killed by a normal dog. Not saying Dunwich would fall to the same fate, but its physiology shouldn't make it immune to conventional damage on its level because Wilbur's physiology didn't same him.
Nah, it is very clear that The horror is much more like his father than his brother. Wilbut i kinda trash, and doesn't have the same thing. Wilbur is decidedly far more human than his brother. It is even said that the horror isn't even ment for normal reality, and is more fit for higher dimensions and the world beyond the gates.
 
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