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TES 1-As are more unquantifiable than only above baseline 1-A (which I disagree with due to feats).
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>i am not incrediably knowledgble about this but i dont think you can claim that the ladder is equal to the gates since the difference between each gate is as far as i understand the difference between a 3D being to a 1A beingOverlord4896 said:i am not incrediably knowledgble about this but i dont think you can claim that the ladder is equal to the gates since the difference between each gate is as far as i understand the difference between a 3D being to a 1A being which is quite massive and then the ultimate gods transend all of this by also a very massive margin. i think there was even a debate about this about bern vs shub-niggurath and it was a stomp in favor of shub-niggurath and quite obviously, shub is nothing compared to yog who is comparable to feathrine who is nothing compared to azatohth.
What...? Of course not.Udlmaster said:Not quite.
And Bern destroys Shub, as Bern is protected by Featherine, as Bern is her Miko. To attack Bern is to attack Featherine.
No, you obviously don't understand.FateAlbane said:What...? Of course not.
Saying this happens in a thread is like saying if a character fights Yamcha Goku will appear and blast them to Oblivion.
Even if we could actually count that argument - which we can't since it's the textbook definition of Outside interference- Featherine was basically sipping tea and watching like "Whatever" in the final battle which involved Bern.
Outer Gods cannot be killed in a conventional way, to say they cannot be killed is for 1 a NLF and two wrong, as you yourself admit that Azathoth waking up kills them.Overlord4896 said:the outer gods cant be killed at all and nothing can be done to harm them in anyway except for azathoth awakening.
and here is the thread i meantioned: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2093052
to attack shub is to attack yog-sothoth and i can tell you there is no way for feathrine to harm yog as the only thing that can actually wipe him is azathoth awakening and even then it is heavily implied yog would just rejoin into azathoth and become one with him.
False equivalency.FateAlbane said:@Setsuna That's why I didn't even question any ratings.
But the idea that if someone fights Bern, Featherine herself will always come and say "BlahDie." is again, like imagining if you fight a Chaos Champion like Kharn, Khorne nukes you.
You can have outside beings help you in a fight, Summoning, Curses, Blessing etc.Overlord4896 said:i dont think outside interfernce is included in these debates so i think your argument about feathrine is mute.
I literally went over that above.Overlord4896 said:whats your evidence that the cthulu myhtos cosmology is lesser than umineko. i myself dont know if one is greater than the other.
1. You can, doesn't mean they are always the ones fulfilling that role. Lambda's 40 Mikos are a direct reference to the number of characters in the game. She also references the entire audience with that Miko thing. Is Lambda reality level now since even the readers are just her mikos? Yeah. No.Udlmaster said:snip
But I agree on the derail thing. I don't care about who stays on the 1-A spot, nor do I want to argue which one should be.Udlmaster said:Also, we can continue this elsewhere, since we're derailing.
Naturally, our discussion was purely intellectual, and it was a good, I didn't think you were being rude, it's much harder to convay emotions when in a text debate than verbal.FateAlbane said:Snip
FateAlbane said:like imagining if you fight a Chaos Champion like Kharn, Khorne nukes you.
FateAlbane said:@Pachi That Khorne takes a XBHAUGS HUEG sword and divides the opponent in half for Kharn? No.
PaChi2 said:but that sounds cool as hell