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so.....shub wins?BleedingPeach said:The word stomp needs to be writen. The thing breaks all her books and I think makes her go crazy (much more than she is)-
I would like to think that it would be inconclusive but the thing is actually very very very overpowered. I didn't finish the novel (The Star Maker) yet but we are talking about how Shub clears the floor with BernZacharyGrossman273 said:Shub would probably even beat the star maker
Hajun is like a non factor in these debates. What are shubs hax. Or her power etc that put her above anyone elseBleedingPeach said:And Nyarla is considered as inferior to Shub. So... Shub>Nyarlathotep>Hajun
Good luck with that. I prefer goals I can actually achieve.Veloxt1r0kore said:Because people want to see Major Lovecraft lose hard
That quote was labeled incorrect by darklk. And it resulted in a stalemate between bern and nyar. While all LK did was make equal argumentsBleedingPeach said:Monarch Laciel
If I remember correctly, Bern exists several layers beyond other 1-As, each layer having a dimensional difference.
Nyarlathotep's true self exists beyond other 1-As by the same degree those 1-As exist beyond 3-D humanity.
To make sure you understand just how strong that makes him, "transcending 1-A character X by the same degree they transcend 3-D character Y" has been justification for High 1-A in several cases. And Nyarla is the weakest of the Outer Gods
Edit: Case in point, Featherine is High 1-A for being to witches what witches are to humans. Just substitute the word "Featherine" for "Nyarlathotep" and "witches" for "Great Old Ones" and you'll see my point.
Edited by Monarch Laciel 10:27, January 11, 2018
Well... I don't consider this a wanking. Just one guy/gal saying why she couldn't win. Oh and the thread is this one... a versus like this one with an entity much weaker was already made. So the King has spoken (MrKingofNegativity)
Im interested to know how easily she terns bern into pasteMrKingOfNegativity said:Why are we still putting major Lovecraft 1-As in matchups when we know for a fact that they're capable of kicking the rest of the tier into paste?
While that is true. However bern wad able to be equal or more powerful to nyar. But as its stated shub is the most powerful 1-A even stronger than nyar. Though i could always argue bern could just reach shubs level with her ability to become as powerful as she wants. Id maybe agree with you on the inconclusive partPhoenix821 said:Truthfully I think this is inconclusive because to qoute Azzy here
The Outer Gods essentially exist at the "level" of existence where nothing changes, because change isn't real. It's a function of the minds of lesser beings experiencing a lesser reality, but these Outer Gods are not bound by perspective or a sense of being/self.
Their true "forms" cannot exactly "fight" because doing so would simply be a matter of change and perspective, which is something they are beyond.