Strongest Character for Every Tier 23

[Setsuna_tenma]

Verna does not have higher dimensional immortality you need 2A concept destruction to kill him since he is reliant on a 2A concept.I doubt that grandfather spider can slap both of them even without their broken immortalities

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

2-A concept destruction? eh, same princaple.

It's possible though, but not gonna bother arguing it

 

[The_Causality]

I'am surprised that Grandfather spider is pretty strong

The Worm vs Him then

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

can Theodore be the strongest 3B speed equalized?Type 5 acasuality means nothing short of higher dimensional hax can harm him and he has several useful hax like law manipulation,concept manipulation

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

About 100% sure that Aleister Crowley takes High 6-B

I knowhim vs GK isnt done yet, but thats really just a formality

 

[Overlord775]

I don't see anything that would allow her to survive GK looking at her

aslo he blitzes her with speed unequalized

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

The 2 billion clones, higher-d stat amp and concept manip say nah

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Id just like to remind everyone that just because someone in a tier beats or incons everyone else in the tier, that doesn't mean that they're the strongest because others may be able to defeat higher-tiered characters that the "strongest" one cant

Jusy gonna repost this after the shit that went on with Pelican

 

[Overlord775]

The 2 billion clones, higher-d stat amp and concept manip say nah

explain better

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

explain better

K

Hr has 2 billion clones that can fight with him, and he gets way stronger whenever one dies

Blasting Rod stat amp is based on how strong his opponent thinks he is and could match High Priest

Concept manip is creating and manipulating type 4 concepts

 

[Overlord775]

GK just atomizes the clones too

Blasting Rod won't help if she's atomized the moment the match starts, also "At least High Complex Multiverse level with Blasting Rod (Can amplify his power up to the point of defeating Magic Gods if the right conditions are met)" I don't think those "right condictions" would happen in a match like this

Type 4 conceptual manipulation isn't good and GK exists above the laws of physics

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Pretty sure that it would take a moment to looks 2 billion people, so that's not a point

 

[JackJoyce]

The Lady of Pai can give YHVH a run for his money

 

[Kaltias]

Jusy gonna repost this after the shit that went on with Pelica

Can't you feel his power?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Doesn't YHVH have 1-C....everything?

Also about Golden King, @H13 that's not a factor. Against a passive like that it would still be instant. Instant passive is basically "if i take 0 seconds to atomize 1 dude when the fight starts, then for 2bil, it'd be 2bil x 0 = 0".

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

The Lady of Pai can give YHVH a run for his money

YHVH has passive 1C hax so no

 

[JackJoyce]

I thought higher dimensional powers are banned in vs fights

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I thought higher dimensional powers are banned in vs fights

If only that were the case.

 

[Lancer45Man]

GK being above the laws of physics doesn't give him resistance to Concept Manip

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Even when higher dimensional powers were banned in VS Threads, they were still allowed in this thread.

 

[The_Causality]

Saikou

Who is she? (your profile pic)

 

[PsychoWarper]

If Higher-D powers where banned from characters then fights using those characters would be bullshit.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

This guy'd be literal fodder...i'd love to see that.

 

[Overlord775]

This guy'd be literal fodder...i'd love to see that.

Not really, the spear would still kill almost anything even without being 1-A

 

[Firephoenixearl]

This guy'd be literal fodder...i'd love to see that.

Not really, the spear would still kill almost anything even without being 1-A

There are 2 things about that:

1) Higher D stuff gets restricted. At best he'd have the lame arse Mind Manip, everything else is restricted via being higher d, so no LLT for him.

2) Even if he had those, still, he'd be pretty fodder. Most characters with resistances to EE, Soul and Mind hax would ez solo.

 

[PsychoWarper]

So in order to beat him you have to take away 90% of his power... impressive.

 

[Overlord775]

2) Even if he had those, still, he'd be pretty fodder. Most characters with resistances to EE, Soul and Mind hax would ez solo.

Machina's EE is good enought to erase Methusel, so a simple resistence to EE isn't enought, and Reinhard has the powers of the briah of his commanders himself

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So in order to beat him you have to take away 90% of his power... impressive.

Not to beat him. To make him fodder. There is a big difference between the two.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Machina's EE is good enought to erase Methusel, so a simple resistence to EE isn't enought, and Reinhard has the powers of the briah of his commanders himself

Inquantifiable. It erased Meth due to 1-A potency so if that were to be made in 3D, that would be an inquantifiable level of EE.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Machinas EE isnt 1-A,

Also theres nothing impressive about fodderizing a character whos lost most of his power.

 

[Overlord775]

Inquantifiable. It erased Meth due to 1-A potency so if that were to be made in 3D, that would be an inquantifiable level of EE.

No, the only 1-A abilities in Dies Irae are the LLT, Reinhard's Law and Ren's curse, all other abilites aren't

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Oh, they are 3D otherwise? I didn't know.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also theres nothing impressive about fodderizing a character whos lost most of his power.

Who said it was? I just mentioned that if we restricted higher d stuff he'd be fodder af, while as BB would be MUCH stronger than she is.

 

[Overlord775]

Yes, even Meth's mindhax is just 3-D

 

[PsychoWarper]

Actually LLT is a 3D construct with Higher D power, so I wonder how that would work.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Vecna is only 2-C speed equal but he outhaxes the spider

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Actually LLT is a 3D construct with Higher D power, so I wonder how that would work.

It'd be a 3D construct with 3D power. Every smurf is basically a 3D construct with higher d power, in our case the smurf is the spear itself. xD

 

[PsychoWarper]

Who said it was? I just mentioned that if we restricted higher d stuff he'd be fodder af, while as BB would be MUCH stronger than she is.

I guess.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I'am surprised that Grandfather spider is pretty strong
The Worm vs Him then

So am I tbh, and I'm the one who did the upgrades XD

The verse has a very confusing cosmology though. The concept of time in the new universe works on magic instead of the laws of physics, and each planet, of which there are countless of, have their own seperate concepts of time, despite being part of the same universe, and each planet has it's own seperate concept of time XD + the universe before it, before it's destruction had it's OWN seperate concept of time, and that one worked on the laws of physics, but it wasn't an actual universe. It had the sky and land as one thing.

So it's hard to quantify how far into 2-C he is. Had to go with the known universe which has 6 known parallel worlds (implied there are many more) + another seperate universe, which is based on our own universe, which has it's own unknown number of timelines. Using WoG, the number of worlds is always expanding

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Then why isn't he 2-B?

If he's 2-C vecna seals GG