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Street Fighter Overhaul
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I still think Akuma would be stronger.
I still think Akuma would be stronger.
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ok.
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I dont think his soul survived, Gill was down after the raging demon, that ressurection could have restored his soul back, there aint evidence to say his soul wasnt destroyed
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Also dont think it was anywhere said Gill> Akuma, you can assume he might be around the same levels as him
Also that video of Capcom ranking them us outdated, they mention a non canon crossover feat for Akuma which would put him at High 6-A and mention of Ingrid potentially being a character that can challenge Oni, but she herself said in the game she debuted as i already said it takes her 30 minutes to put down Bison, her words contradict what they say of her here
Also that video of Capcom ranking them us outdated, they mention a non canon crossover feat for Akuma which would put him at High 6-A and mention of Ingrid potentially being a character that can challenge Oni, but she herself said in the game she debuted as i already said it takes her 30 minutes to put down Bison, her words contradict what they say of her here
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Anyone who is considerable stronger than Ryu and M. Bison should be able to be up to consideration for the 6-C update Keep in mind that being stronger doesn't necessarily mean that the weaker foe couldn't scale, especially in close calls. I can easily see base Akuma being on par to Gill due how the franchise puts both of them at God levels of strength.
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Akuma is pretty much overall put as the franchise strongest characters with few comparing to him at all, he should scale to any feat in the verse except of those like Oni or such
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Which profiles do I need to unlock for you other than Akuma (Street Fighter)?
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With the inclusion of Gills feat, how does E Honda's hold up?
While Honda is weaker than gill he was badly damaged and that wasn't something he can do on his own but on the other hand he didn't die and even survived the fall back down. (assumably) As mentioned earlier, Honda is already considered a stronger character in the verse due to the often comparison with Zangief and this wouldn't even be the first time Honda was used as a weapon. (i.e. Alpha 3)
The gap between those feats is big enough to substantiate the gap between Gill and Honda. But at the same time, The grappler boiz and schoolgirls are weaker than Ryu, Bison, etc leaving their tiering a little ambiguous since they don't have feats that high (unless Fangs ending gets calced to something akin to it)
While Honda is weaker than gill he was badly damaged and that wasn't something he can do on his own but on the other hand he didn't die and even survived the fall back down. (assumably) As mentioned earlier, Honda is already considered a stronger character in the verse due to the often comparison with Zangief and this wouldn't even be the first time Honda was used as a weapon. (i.e. Alpha 3)
The gap between those feats is big enough to substantiate the gap between Gill and Honda. But at the same time, The grappler boiz and schoolgirls are weaker than Ryu, Bison, etc leaving their tiering a little ambiguous since they don't have feats that high (unless Fangs ending gets calced to something akin to it)
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E. Honda's Meteor feat as a 6-C feat is still very high even if it's lower than Gill feat. However in a comment mentioned before, as a 7-A feat, it could be a thing instead of an outlier. But is probably for the better to wait until the rest of feats were analysed.N-nani said:
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I think that it seems reasonable that most of the Street Fighter characters are not extremely far apart in terms of raw power. Meaning, I don't mind using the Honda calculation.
Anyway, is somebody willing to update the profiles scaling from the Gill feat to start with?
Anyway, is somebody willing to update the profiles scaling from the Gill feat to start with?
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Even with Gill feat, E Honda feat is pretty much close in numbers to his feat if taking the 6-C result and the guy is not even a strong or relevant character
Even with his 7-A result, those above him at their best couldnt get anything past 7-B, a feat of a god tier doesnt mean E Honda one is more acceptable, we need feats of characters way more around his level to even count that as legit
Even with his 7-A result, those above him at their best couldnt get anything past 7-B, a feat of a god tier doesnt mean E Honda one is more acceptable, we need feats of characters way more around his level to even count that as legit
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But anyway 6-C should be applied to those that compare to Gill
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The thing is that he is a high tier character and that most of the 7-B to Low 7-C feats were mostly Pre-SFV feats, so more feats from someone aorund his level (high to mid tiers of the series) could just be a more of the akin of SFV feats. The best for now is to wait until the other feats are evaluated, especially since M. Bison and Ryu with Power of Nothingness don't have any evaluated feat that is higher than E Honda feat.BlackDarkness679 said:
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Yes, you should update the tiers to "6-C", the attack potencies and durabilities to "Island level", the striking strengths to "Island Class", and the tier categories from "Tier 7" to "Tier 6".
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E Honda wasnt a high tier character, Ryu or Bison are as such, also its still questionable that he has such a high rated feat despite he didnt had anything remotely close either and i dont remember the gaps between the games to be that big, except in SF3 and maybe SF1 till later onPuasLuisZX said:
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Still, even if E.Honda is only supposed to be a medium-tiered character, are the Street Fighters not still supposed to all be able to cause damage to each other? Meaning, it makes sense that the difference between them would more be in skill, speed, and versatility than raw power. As such, I personally do not mind scaling Honda and equal or stronger characters to his feat.
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That would go for all fighting games as well if saying the difference is skill and what not only, but thing is, while skill and such plays a factor, its made clear some characters are above the others by other means too, like how many characters can even compare to Ryu physically or pull off his feats?Cant say all or majority compare to him in strength
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What feats have been calced so far? Any links to blogs? A compilation would be good.
