Steven Universe's potential inconsistency?

[WeeklyBattles]

I think it would be more attributed to mental stress than actual exhaustion, at least thats the way i see it. Ultima brought this up before but the Gems do indeed get their energy from their gemstones, and in one of the comics Steven and Garnet traveled inside Pearl's gemstone, which contained a realm that was described by both Amethyst and Garnet ad being infinite in size. Not sure if this would translate into limitless energy for stamina or not but i just thought i'd bring it up...

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Tipoima]

Okay, can now someone tell me if Steven and Connie get the upgrades or not, so I could move on with my life?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. What do the rest of the staff think?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I agree with the upgrades for HoloPearl, Connie, Steven, Ruby and Sapphire (And the people that scale from)

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Anybody else?

 

[Tipoima]

Count me in.

 

[Antvasima]

I will ask Azathoth for input.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Holo-Pearls, Steven, Ruby, and Sapphire should all have "At most" listed after their Tier 6 stats, but aside from that, I think an upgrade is fine.

I do not agree with scaling Connie. I sincerely doubt Pearl would allow Holo-Pearls comparable in strength to herself to be used as opponents for Connie when lack of attention caused one to poof Pearl. The only time I recall Connie doing anything remotely impressive in comparison to the other characters was very briefly forcing back a surprised Pearl, and even then that was with Steven. Connie also uses Rose's sword, which is explicitly stated to be adept at putting down Gems and similar beings.

 

[Otomos]

Then should we wait for the 10th to see if any Connie feats show up? I mean it is a Connie episode.

 

[Legion350]

I agree with Azathoth about the upgrades.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Azzy seems reasonable. I think "Possibly 6-C with Roses Sword" for Connie could be applied personally, but I'll leave that for others.

@Otomos. That makes sense.

 

[Antvasima]

I am personally fine with "Possibly 6-C with Rose's Sword". What do you think Azathoth?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Completely fine, as long as it's noted it doesn't scale to her normal AP or durability.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Feel free to perform the modification then.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Done. Did I miss anyone?

Shouldn't Holly be handled in a similar manner? I feel like she should be Possibly High 7-A at least.

 

[Tipoima]

I think making Connie 9-B in base is WAY too small. She should be at least 7-C - she doesn't need Rose's Sword to destroy Holo-Pearls like they are nothing

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Holo-Pearls are Glass Cannons with Human level durability

 

[Tipoima]

It's not like it makes hitting and dodging one any easier. Also, why she doesn't get these relativistic+ reactions like everyone (including Holo-Pearls) got? And why Sadie's "solo killing corrupted gem with a pointy stick" gives her only 9-B while the minimum tier for a corrupted gem is 8-C (tiny Centipeetle)?

 

[Tipoima]

bump

 

[Tipoima]

It's not like it makes hitting and dodging one any easier. Also, why she doesn't get these relativistic+ reactions like everyone (including Holo-Pearls) got? And why Sadie's "solo killing corrupted gem with a pointy stick" gives her only 9-B while the minimum tier for a corrupted gem is 8-C (tiny Centipeetle)?

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[Antvasima]

Since nobody in the staff seems interested in this thread, and we seem to have handled most of it, should we close it?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I dunno, scaling a nameless Gem monster to Centibeetle seems a bit weird, but I guess "At least 9-B, possibly 8-C" works.

 

[Tipoima]

I dunno, scaling a nameless Gem monster to Centibeetle seems a bit weird, but I guess "At least 9-B, possibly 8-C" works.

What about Connie? 9-B with relativistic combat speed seems pretty strange for me

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Tpoima

There have been City level characters with Immeasurable speed and Building level characters with Infinite speed.

That's not exactly an argument.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Then you have characters like Arata who are Human level with infinite speed, speed and AP are not tied together in any way, outside of higher dimensional stuff at least.

Though, didn't we agree to scale the Gems back down to Massively Hypersonic? Or was it Sub-Rel?

 

[Delivers]

I actally had a dream that this wiki edited Steven's page so his attack was street level but his durability was wall level and next to it was a picture of a Froggit from Undertale because its also wall level...i'm glad that wasn't real