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Stars And Stripes The God

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So we gather here today for one simple reason Stars and Stripes The American Hero needs a page first and for most. Secondly I’m here to bring up the acknowledgment of mha being Speed of light - FTL once again for yet again another lightspeed feat. This is in conjunction with other lightspeed feats which was outed as a outlier for simply not having enough evidence.

In the recent Chp we see lasers from American future jets fired at Shigaraki from all angles and he’s tagged but he combines reflect with scatter. The average laser in America is def lightspeed and if that wasn’t enough he literally uses reflection to send them back which stars n stripes catches. Boom Speed of light reactions and yes its not a outlier since she’s a godtier character
 
Yep a page is in order but we should probably wait another chapter or two for that and also yeah once again we have some laser and laser refraction feats once again showing light speed MHA stuff also dude had been using straight radio waves
 
Dalesean027 said:
Yep a page is in order but we should probably wait another chapter or two for that and also yeah once again we have some laser and laser refraction feats once again showing light speed MHA stuff also dude had been using straight radio waves
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It’s like at this point we can’t ignore this. It’s also final act so it makes sense to up the speed of these characters. On top of the fact that this is borderline endgame Shigaraki, he’s at 97 - 98% stated.
 
KashinKojiiiiii said:
It’s like at this point we can’t ignore this. It’s also final act so it makes sense to up the speed of these characters. On top of the fact that this is borderline endgame Shigaraki, he’s at 97 - 98% stated.
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Indeed Stripes even had to use her quirk to make these real lasers holdable in the first place. They're stated to be lasers, fire in a straight line, and refract/reflect and scatter like light so once again this is kinda something that can't be ignored
 
General consensus seems to be wait for the anime till the possible Light Speed is discussed about further.

Keep this is mind before you create stomps by placing her agaist character who could just her dead before she can try to erase the air, nor should you make stomps the other way.

Besides doing stuff like remove air, she is still limited by having to know the opponent's name (which SBA does not automatically allow her to know), requires contact and, as far as we know, verbal announcement of the new rules, and has limits on what she can do; as she could not reach One for All levels of strength.

Also keep in mind NLF before you say something like "she can make a rule that she can't be affected by the opponent's abilities" even without that third point.
 
Everything12 said:
General consensus seems to be wait for the anime till the possible Light Speed is discussed about further.

Keep this is mind before you create stomps by placing her agaist character who could just her dead before she can try to erase the air, nor should you make stomps the other way.

Besides doing stuff like remove air, she is still limited by having to know the opponent's name (which SBA does not automatically allow her to know), requires contact and, as far as we know, verbal announcement of the new rules, and has limits on what she can do; as she could not reach One for All levels of strength.

Also keep in mind NLF before you say something like "she can make a rule that she can't be affected by the opponent's abilities" even without that third point.
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All understandable but no one's going that far we simply said she deserves a profile and discussed the light stuff I will say thanks though for explaining her quirk for some who may come to this thread and haven't read the chapter
 
this ******* fandom
The chapter just came out.
Not only that, but there are not enough factors in this feat for it to be FTL. At best, you could get low-end Relativistic.
Give it a rest. Wait until she is more fleshed out to create a profile for her.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
this ******* fandom
The chapter just came out.
Not only that, but there are not enough factors in this feat for it to be FTL. At best, you could get low-end Relativistic.
Give it a rest. Wait until she is more fleshed out to create a profile for her.
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Okay seriously chill the **** out no one said a thing about FTL and the first thing said is that we should wait on her profile, if you're first comment is going to be some bs anger splurge about things not even said in this thread it's best to not comment at all
 
Nullflowerblush said:
this ******* fandom
The chapter just came out.
Not only that, but there are not enough factors in this feat for it to be FTL. At best, you could get low-end Relativistic.
Give it a rest. Wait until she is more fleshed out to create a profile for her.
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Lmaooo low end relativistic for a lightspeed laser? Pls stop trying to lowball we’re done doing that buddy. We’ve been getting and giving lightspeed feats since chp 260s on top of that it can’t be low end rel if she wasn’t prepared for the laser to be shot back, she def did keep her guard tho but that doesnt Make the feat any less great.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
You do realize that Stars was tens to hundreds of meters away from Tomura, right?
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You do realize lightspeed can cross that in milliseconds right? It’s lightspeed bro, even if the distance was kilometers it wouldn’t make any difference tbh. Only way we could make it rel is if she had a idea of him being capable of reflecting lasers or if she had precog like in Bc they use Ki to sense. Without that it’s pure reaction of light
 
KashinKojiiiiii said:
You do realize lightspeed can cross that in milliseconds right? It’s lightspeed bro, even if the distance was kilometers it wouldn’t make any difference tbh. Only way we could make it rel is if she had a idea of him being capable of reflecting lasers or if she had precog like in Bc they use Ki to sense. Without that it’s pure reaction of light
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no.

Dodging something can get much lower depending on how far you are, dodging lightspeed from tens to hundreds of meters is MHS+ to Sub-Relativistic.

Dodging lightspeed can even be as low as Hypersonic depending on the distance (not the case here btw)
 
KingTempest said:
Be respectful and be correct.


And all those feats come out as rel with wank. I don't see a single rel+ to FTL feat
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Buddy with all due respect you're going to have to tell someone else, and it should be the one whose coming in dissing the fandom, and using excessive language all in one go and you're saying me telling someone to chill isn't being respectful to the thread that's honestly a joke. I now actually back on this can say that's my bad as I only saw the SOL portion and not the FTL of the OP but that gives no grounds for such as reaction
 
As long as some kind of respect and chill is received it will be reciprocated and me telling someone to chill the **** out isn't me being disrespectful especially considering how their first response was handled. Anywho I agree it's not anything close to FTL I simply talked about the lightspeed and laser standards and whether or not the feat fit into that the rating is an entire different matter.
 
KashinKojiiiiii said:
Incorrect. How can a lightspeed laser reaction be relativistic at best and with wank?? How does that even make sense 😭
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I've seen MHS+ lightspeed reaction calcs.

A laser from dozens of meters away isn't impressive.

If it was less than a meter away then you'd get FTL. This wasn't. This isn't FTL.

"How does that even make sense" react to a jet from a hundred miles away, does that give you mach reactions?

KashinKojiiiiii said:
its not a outlier since she’s a godtier character
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This is not an argument.

This would be an outlier for the verse.

Her being a god tier does not make her prone to outliers.

If you have a bunch of wall busters as high tiers, then you have a single planet busting feat for a god tier, it's an outlier.

She has 1 feat, doesn't make it less of an outlier
 
Dalesean027 said:
Buddy with all due respect you're going to have to tell someone else, and it should be the one whose coming in dissing the fandom, and using excessive language all in one go and you're saying me telling someone to chill isn't being respectful to the thread that's honestly a joke. I now actually back on this can say that's my bad as I only saw the SOL portion and not the FTL of the OP but that gives no grounds for such as reaction
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I take fault, my bad then.
 
Also Baseline Sub-Relativistic seems to be the most likely results, if we take this feat at face value.

However it was agreed that it is impossible to say if she reacted to the laser before or after she was already hit. So we are going to wait until the anime version comes out, or another feat of this nature happens again.
 
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KingTempest said:
I take fault, my bad then.
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It's good I'm not really tripping over it but actually back on topic I wouldn't say she's nearly hundreds of miles away but definitely hundreds of meters and with these lasers firing anything in the MHS-MHS+ ranges and higher is honestly a win for the series FTL is definitely completely out of the question and we should wait for more chapters as I said in literally my first comment on this thread
 
Also, for the future, send scans in the original post.

Nobody wants to go and dig the manga to understand what you're referring to
 
KingTempest said:
I've seen MHS+ lightspeed reaction calcs.

A laser from dozens of meters away isn't impressive.

If it was less than a meter away then you'd get FTL. This wasn't. This isn't FTL.

"How does that even make sense" react to a jet from a hundred miles away, does that give you mach reactions?


This is not an argument.

This would be an outlier for the verse.

Her being a god tier does not make her prone to outliers.

If you have a bunch of wall busters as high tiers, then you have a single planet busting feat for a god tier, it's an outlier.

She has 1 feat, doesn't make it less of an outlier
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What are u saying 1 feat for this is another lightspeed feat within mha. It’s not the only one hence why I said it can’t be a outlier at all. Aoyama beam is confirmed light by toru and thirteen as well as databooks and literally has been refracted and reflects off mirrors from his costume meaning lightspeed lasers regardless of how u may feel.
 
KashinKojiiiiii said:
What are u saying 1 feat for this is another lightspeed feat within mha. It’s not the only one hence why I said it can’t be a outlier at all. Aoyama beam is confirmed light by toru and thirteen as well as databooks and literally has been refracted and reflects off mirrors from his costume.
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And has any god tiers dodged that?

And stop calling them lightspeed feats. They're rel feats at best. They're "light feats".

If a child dodges a laser and a god tier dodges a laser, they'd both be outliers for their specific tiers
 
KingTempest said:
And has any god tiers dodged that?

And stop calling them lightspeed feats. They're rel feats at best. They're "light feats".

If a child dodges a laser and a god tier dodges a laser, they'd both be outliers for their specific tiers
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Not rel. mina was dodging that same beam from aoyama at borderline point blank range, especially in the anime. Also I say the beams used against Shigaraki scale higher than aoyamas for obv reasons, aoyama beam wouldn’t come close to Shiggy at all but these lasers actually did. It could’ve been done on purpose to simply reflect them all Ig but if not then they scale higher for that reason alone
 
KashinKojiiiiii said:
Not rel. mina was dodging that same beam from aoyama at borderline point blank range, especially in the anime.
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Ok then that'd be an outlier for her. Why is LS being used by the god tiers and it's so effective if the younger weaker members are casually FTL?

KashinKojiiiiii said:
Also I say the beams used against Shigaraki scale higher than aoyamas for obv reasons, aoyama beam wouldn’t come close to Shiggy at all
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Reasons? Outside of "he's a god tier obviously it should be slower than him"
KashinKojiiiiii said:
but these lasers actually did.
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Doesn't stop it from being an outlier.
 
Okay we keep saying it's best to wait now can we like actually wait now Koji and tempest ik yall're are still discussing but it's going to continue to be circular do lets just leave it for now
 
KingTempest said:
Ok then that'd be an outlier for her. Why is LS being used by the god tiers and it's so effective if the younger weaker members are casually FTL?


Reasons? Outside of "he's a god tier obviously it should be slower than him"

Doesn't stop it from being an outlier.
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I said LS to be generous. IMO all of mha has been ftl for a while now, since the beginning they were all scaling off aoyamas beam. That has been consistently brought up throughout the series and reflected and refracted, so it like I said it can’t be a outlier my boa. A outlier is something that’s done once and is never brought up but that’s not the case here. How can you have multiple outliers throughout the series, the author is literally telling us yes this is light and yes it’s been reflected by his mirrors from his costume and even brought in toru to show us her refracting it lol.
 
When you keep that in mind. You get FTL for obv reasons, them scaling below god tiers when they’re mid tiers in every stat.
 
It seems to have been made by a guy called Cisco. Anyway it's important to reminds to not gets carried too much by the hype, i know that potentially having a sub-relativistic character for the MHA verse is very hype but we should at least wait the conclusion to the fight because right now Star and Stripe only started fighting this chapter, it's too early.
 
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LordGinSama said:
Outlier isn't something done once, an outlier is something that's generally inconsistent when in comparison to the rest of the feats. Deku's 100% Faux going full speed isn't even MHS and that's likely the fastest attack in the verse currently.
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It’s clearly not. In the first 50 chps we see a statement about his beam being light = lightspeed, before the war around 260s we see a lightspeed feat again concerning toru hagakure and after the war they show us yet again another light speed feat. It’s been consistent for the whole series brodie, you can’t keep saying outlier as if the author doesn’t kno what he’s doing. See how In Naruto we had haku using light etc and never really brought up again, or with roshi blowing up a moon which is inconsistent was never done again till Z sayian saga.
 
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