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He crushed him by throwing a block, Momin still had him outclassed the whole time.
 
I know he was exhausted, but Vader never held his own, he just won by throwing a block of concrete. Vader didn't really stand a chance until he threw it.
 
They did duel at first. Momin apparently overpowered the exhausted Vader and wounded him, but Vader survived and used the Force to throw the block of concrete. Momin attempted to blocked the block but Vader overwhelmed him and killed him.
 
In Star Wars they usually just fight by clashing their lightsabers together instead of jumping and punching, like Vader vs Obi-Wan, presumably because they are also fighting in the Force. And in the fight Vader was able to block Momin's attacks, indicting comparable strength.

He stopped the attack at first, but Vader continued to crush down and kill him.
 
Blocked it very briefly, while he was monologuing. Momin heavily outclassed Vader right after.

After Momin was already heavily injured by the rock. Also, there's no indication he even used the force, the "impossible" statement refers to Momin's belief that he's the chosen one.
 
Momin outclassed an injured and exhausted Vader, but Vader still held his own and killed him with his Force powers.

And the rock was suspended in mid-air for a while and Momin talked to Vader, before Vader killed him.
 
It wasn't suspended mid-air, the rock was already crushing him, which is why the crater is there.
 
This does mean that Momin is unable to break free of Vader crushing him though.

And Momin did say that Vader was stronger in the beginning, and was unable to finish him off in a lightsaber duel despite Vader being wounded and exhausted.

Anyway whatever, the feat probably isn't even City level, it's too vague.
 
After already being partially crushed.

That was a manipulation, Momin later says he was stronger. He was about to, until Vader took him off guard.

Sure on the downgrade.
 
Except Momin specifically stated Vader was too strong even for him. He planned almost everything, from the Mustafarians attacking Vader (wich would at least exhaust him a little and possibly harm him) to making him using the portal, wich weakened him even further. Yes he was caught off-guard but Vader was wounded, somehow exhausted, especially mentally and emotionally due to Momin's taunting. There's no doubt Vader > Momin and Momin himself said he needed to weaken Vader before facing him.
 
Again, that was a manipulation, Momin later states he's more powerful after his plans have been completed.

That doesn't mean Vader is superior.

No, he didn't.

It's pretty much irrelevant, regardless. It wouldn't change his tier.
 
I'm going to downgrade Luke, that seems non-controversial enough since Luke doesn't have any actual feats other than Vader saying that he was impressive during their fight.

Unless someone wants to argue that Empire Strikes Back Luke is 7-A.
 
It would actually change the tier of post-14 BBY but pre-Rebels Vader.

However we do not know enough information about the city anyway, might not even be City level.
 
Why would Rey get a solid 6-C key?Didn't that fusion with all the Jedi last for like a minute?Then she died or almost died.

It must be noted in her weakness section.
 
We covered that, I think, they were already active and he more guided them.
 
Do we actually see it blow up the ice, or are you interpreting it that way? I'm fairly sure that's just Exegol's lightning, Palpatine is half-dead by this point.
 
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