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When wielded by Pre Vizsla he fought Maul. Gideon is physically far weaker than Pre Vizsla but he's High 8-C when he uses it.
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that kinda hleps my point, doesnt it? the argument that force users struggle with normal humans all the time is quite valid, but her not being a normal human, but being only slightly above it makes it somewhat more of a point on my argument than anything else. we now know she barely beat another trashy force user, hours after she almost to mando. this seems to be enough proof to me.
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My point is Ahsoka Tano would be literally weaker than Jedi younglings if we make that key and makes no sense logically within the canon.
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Lightsabers probably aren't going to have specific ratings.
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btw, we gonna consider amps any time soon? like, temporary ones. SW has a shitton of them.
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I'm honestly a little bit surprised that Mortis Amped Anakin doesn't have a Key yet.
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I knoe the falcon has at least city level durability should assume the attacking potency of light turbolaser should be much higher considering the massive explosion of the razors crest of at least a few dozen meters in diameter
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The Falcon's city level feat isn't anywhere near as impressive as the profile suggests. Basically, it was going to rip apart the surrounding dome.
The attack potency of light turbolasers is Large Mountain level+. So it wouldn't even come close.
The attack potency of light turbolasers is Large Mountain level+. So it wouldn't even come close.
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I think battleship grade light turbolasers are more powerful than anti-air light turbolasers and point defence turbolasers? There has never been clear explanations on this in even Legends, with Canon being even more confusing in that regard.
I think the Arquitens-class's light turbolasers are battleship grade and designed specifically for use against small-medium warships as well as planetary bombardments. In the Moving Target novel, we see that Arquitens light cruisers can fight evenly against and even potentially overpower a Nebulon B frigate, whose turbolasers are also apparently designed for planetary bombardment. This would also explain why they need dedicated heavy laser cannons (probably for point defence).
I think there is a statement from the Thrawn: Treason novel of ISD tractor beams being able to potentially devastate a city-sized spaceport. But, yeah, I agree that the Falcon profile needs a revision.
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WTF are battleship grade light turbolasers battleships are not small warships
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Whelp... Never mind.
ISB Major Dayja Collerand says that over a city or spaceport, ISD protocol is to use tractor beams at low power and tightly focused into a beam. This only implies that the tractor beam could cause great damage to a city, but he never says it outright.
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Ok. Given the wording, it seems to be more about casualties than structural damage.
- “First: Over a spaceport or other inhabited region, they’re going to use low power and tight focus,” Dayja continued, his voice casual. “That makes the beams relatively easy to break clear of.”
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But we know that tractor beams can indeed cause structural damage.
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Old comment, but it's outright said Palpatine "Rend space" to teleport to an Imperial servant of his to habitat his body for some time to later get to Byss, he never flew there.
It was also said he learned that technique from the Ancient Sith, so Vitiate probably did that as well.
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Yeah let's stick to Canon for now.
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How strong is this feat, exactly
Skip to 11:38, basically Vader lifts over 100,000 metric tons worth of ocean water. I feel we can get KE from how fast the water Vader stopped was pouring.
Skip to 11:38, basically Vader lifts over 100,000 metric tons worth of ocean water. I feel we can get KE from how fast the water Vader stopped was pouring.
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We've discarded that feat in another thread. Also, it did flood the corridor, but it came through the window.
Here's my version if you want to critique it (only in the blog, though, not here).
Even if we use Austin's figure and a number like 10 m/s (flash floods are nearly a quarter of that speed), it's only Building level.
Here's my version if you want to critique it (only in the blog, though, not here).
Even if we use Austin's figure and a number like 10 m/s (flash floods are nearly a quarter of that speed), it's only Building level.
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So what is left to sort out?
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Solo's 9-B durability feat, Magna Tolvan's 9-A feat and what that means for Aphra and those who scale from her (found an instance where she survives a blaster shot to the chest, by the way, but it could be PIS) and Star Wars "peak humans" in general.
But I'm guessing the Force user and vehicle things are a bigger deal right now, so those take priority?
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Yeah the 9-A upgrades can probably be dealt with another simpler thread after this.
Is there any specific scaling or feats being disputed right now? We seemed to have derailed a lot.
Is there any specific scaling or feats being disputed right now? We seemed to have derailed a lot.
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Since we derailed a lot, what is left to debate on the original topics?
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Later in TCW Obi-Wan should probably be closer to Dooku. Quinlan Vos and Anakin could match Dooku by 19 BBY, as we see in Dark Disciple. Obi-Wan should be comparable.
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For 8-B it would be the Ahsoka calc right?
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Alright. What else is left to sort out?
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Here's some pages I'd like someone to review.
I've also asked a few times about this, but never gotten an exact answer (plus, I just can't remember what the answer was), but where does the 800 PJ proton torpedo yield come from?
I think we should remove ramming feats since they can puncture shields and are at least somewhat dependent on a vessel's own shield power.
Also, there's a feat in Legends (I believe it's one of the 90s novels, possibly Jedi Order) where a Star Destroyer crashes into water at full speed and vaporizes a large amount (1,000,000 tons?) of sea water. If someone could find this, I'd appreciate it.
I've also asked a few times about this, but never gotten an exact answer (plus, I just can't remember what the answer was), but where does the 800 PJ proton torpedo yield come from?
I think we should remove ramming feats since they can puncture shields and are at least somewhat dependent on a vessel's own shield power.
Also, there's a feat in Legends (I believe it's one of the 90s novels, possibly Jedi Order) where a Star Destroyer crashes into water at full speed and vaporizes a large amount (1,000,000 tons?) of sea water. If someone could find this, I'd appreciate it.
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1. From the old AOTC ICS and Legends edition of the Complete Vehicles guide. They give an 800 PJ yield for the Slave I's proton torpedoes and concussion missiles. They also give a 50 EJ figure for Seismic charges (which doesn't actually seem farfetched now, given that they can split an Immobilizer 418 apart, and it should be at least as durable as the Quasar Fire-class).
2. Seems fine to me.
3. What? Was this upon impact or upon the ISD exploding?
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I guess those can be removed now.
Upon impact. There's vessels like the Eclipse that can survive ramming ships.'
Edit: I suspect it's somewhere in this book list. Could be wrong, though.
Upon impact. There's vessels like the Eclipse that can survive ramming ships.'
Edit: I suspect it's somewhere in this book list. Could be wrong, though.
- The Crystal Star
- Shield of Lies
- Ambush at Corellia
- Assault at Selonia
- The New Jedi Order: Vector Prime
- The New Jedi Order: Dark Tide I: Onslaught
- The New Jedi Order: Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse
- The New Jedi Order: Destiny's Way
- The New Jedi Order: Force Heretic I: Remnant
- The New Jedi Order: The Unifying Force
- Dark Nest I: The Joiner King
- Riptide
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