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I don't know who those characters are.But should characters such as Yogiri and Zen'ō, that use EE a lot, really never receive any tier? That seems a bit unreasonable. Or have I misunderstood?
what, then what is point of AP via creation? Because I can use the same argument?Gotcha. If they just use hax, and never AP, then yeah, I dunno what to tell you. I'd be in favor of classifying hax as hax and AP as AP.
In the case in DB, your own energy is often used to erase a universe, for example, Ki in DB results in speed and destructive potential, as well as all skills are based on energy of the verseGotcha. If they just use hax, and never AP, then yeah, I dunno what to tell you. I'd be in favor of classifying hax as hax and AP as AP.
Well, Zen'ō has been stated as capable of effortlessly wiping out at least 54 universal spacetime continuums.Gotcha. If they just use hax, and never AP, then yeah, I dunno what to tell you. I'd be in favor of classifying hax as hax and AP as AP.
Medeus, here gave his opinion on, where character skills are based on Ki blast or hakai ( which is a universal energy used by the Gods of Destruction)I am getting tired of repeating myself, but I disagree. First of all, the Hakai or Energy of Destruction is part of the UES scaling regardless, and there are plenty of arguments where him nuking the universe was portrayed to be more so like a Ki Blast rather than a Hakai.
That has been clarified Zeno’s EE falls under UES and DDM explained early that Zeno isn’t affectedBut should characters such as Yogiri and Zen'ō, that use EE a lot, really never receive any tier? That seems a bit unreasonable. Or have I misunderstood?
Why exactly?And using EE on an Earth sized planet should just be treated as the same as creating things from nothing.
Me disagreeing with your point isn't an opportunity for you to then invent another reason why Bambu does not understand. Creation isn't hax lmao, although it does have a conversation to be had for it- one entirely different from this one.I don't get Bambu point at all, he is denying that there are two hax are being scaled to AP, according to his argument and logic, they should not be there in the first place because hax is hax
Dragonball already has a reason to scale zeno EE to his physical stats, as EE or hakai is a ki (has energy factor) that corresponds to AP, I don't know any character that scales to Tier 2 or above solely for EE, so doubt it'll affect any.They are major characters from Dragon Ball and Instant Death.
Creation is not hax...???Me disagreeing with your point isn't an opportunity for you to then invent another reason why Bambu does not understand. Creation isn't hax lmao, although it does have a conversation to be had for it- one entirely different from this one.
EE shouldn't scale to AP/ED: @Damage3245 , @Mr._Bambu , @KingTempest , @Crabwhale , @DemonGodMitchAubin , @LordGriffin1000So what are the staff conclusions here so far, and can somebody write an easy to understand explanation of what is being suggested here, as I have limited time available?
Okay. Thank you for the information.EE shouldn't scale to AP/ED: @Damage3245 , @Mr._Bambu , @KingTempest , @Crabwhale , @DemonGodMitchAubin , @LordGriffin1000
EE should be ED: @DontTalkDT , @DarkDragonMedeus , @Maverick_Zero_X
Although it was later clarified that EE is treated as hax and our hax page already states that hax don't scale to AP. So I think @Maverick_Zero_X and @DontTalkDT have to clarify their opinion once again.
6(only hax not AP) : 3(environmental destruction)Which staff members think what here?