(SPOILERS) Major BFDI Revisions: The Loss of Power

[Soupywolf5]

Blah blah blah, being biased just to try to keep your solid 7-B BFDI.

Ah yes, because there being 2 7-B feats and 1 High 7-C one is just massive amounts of bias

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

@Soupywolf 5

Ah yes, 1 feat that we are unsure about on what happened to her and 1 other feat which is even higher, such a good argument on consistency.

Simple, if we have 1 feat in which we don't know if she just got KO'd, and 1 feat in which it got even higher than something we don't know about, then it's unusable

Also, it's actually 2, the X feat and the feat for Robot Flower running alone

 

[Soupywolf5]

1 feat Which the character appeared to be undamaged by (Unless you're suggesting Needle gets Regenerationn) which is supported by a slightly higher feat being done casually

Great, there's 2 of each, how does this make the higher ones outliers exactly?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

1 feat Which the character was likely undamaged by which is supported by a slightly higher feat being done casually
Great, there's 2 of each, how does this make the higher ones outliers exactly?

Lighlty undamaged which we don't know about that for the 2 hundreth 80th billionth time.

That actually wasn't part of anything, just disproving your claim 7-B was more consistent

 

[Soupywolf5]

And for the 3 thousandth 900th trillionth time See what I did there? Healing from minor injuries like cuts and bruises takes multiple weeks, we see her completely undamaged a single week later, so unless you're suggesting she gets Low Regenerationn, it's safer to assume she was just undamaged by the feat

So, they have similar consistency, cool, in that case you could even rate them as "Likely 7-B"

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

And for the 288th googgleplexianth time, we don't know at all what happened to her in that week, plus the fact BFDI logic and Physics /=/ real world logic, so we don't really know about this (Attested to the fact that the BFDI contestants eat food like we do)

And it's safer to assume that we don't know the fork going on and we just leave it unusable so you can't scale it to 7-B.

You are still pushing for solid 7-B, that bridge has long passed, unless you mean that we give likely 7-B for robot flower's feat, in which I still disagree.

 

[Soupywolf5]

And for the 289th Graham's numberth time, assuming she was injured doesn't make sense as we see her undamaged (After a timeframe shorter than the timeframe needed to heal from even the most minor of injuries), and the vagueness of this feat doesn't matter as it's supported by Robot Flower's feat (What exactly does BFDI logic =/= Real World Logic mean?)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

And for the 289th Graham's numberth time, assuming she was injured doesn't make sense as we see her undamaged, and the vagueness of this feat doesn't matter as it's supported by Robot Flower's feat (What exactly does BFDI logic =/= Real World Logic mean?)

And for the infinite^infinite time, it was 1 week later, where is your proof she didn't get KO'd for hours or days, we don't know

And using robot flower's feat to help you is useless since it's the only actual 7-B feat and the rest are High 7-C or lower feats.

Basically, the thing about bruises is supported by medical stuff and science, but that is with real world science, in BFDI, we get many events which go against the laws of phisycs and science such as inorganic objects eating. Could explain about where did the injuries go, plus stuff like PIS

 

[Soupywolf5]

And for the uncountable infinite^Absolute infinite time, her being ko'd for hours or days is unlikely as the feat's supported by Robot Flower's feat Which was done pretty casually (Calling it the only one is assuming Needle's was already unusable, but as RF's supports it her feat isn't the only one), also the fact that she doesn't have a brain and can't actually be ko'd through physical trauma without feats that she doesn't have

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

And for the uncountable infinite^Absolute infinite time, her being ko'd for hours or days is unlikely as the feat's supported by Robot Flower's feat Which was done pretty casually (Calling it the only one is assuming Needle's was already unusable, but as RF's supports it her feat isn't the only one)

RF IS the only unusable feat, the rest is a vague AF feat and a bunch o 7-C and Tier 8 feats. And don't get me started on the anti feats.

Also, we have no proof the feat still got accepted, wait until someone reevaluates the feat until we can talk

 

[Soupywolf5]

Blah, blah, blah, being biased just to keep Objects from continuing to wreck the MCU before they get upgraded How? You do realize saying someone was ko'd for hours or days makes less sense than saying that she was undamaged, and RF's isn't the only feat, as the absolute worst to be said about Needle's is that she would backscale, but given that a higher feat was done casually it makes more sense to say that she was undamaged rather than she was knocked out for days on end Ignoring that that's not even possible without a brai

 

[Soupywolf5]

Also, are you really suggesting it makes more sense to assume all of the BFDI cast have Low Regenerationn despite never showing it, then saying that Needle was undamaged by her feat?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Also, are you really suggesting it makes more sense to assume all of the BFDI cast have Low Regenerationn despite never showing it, then saying that Needle was undamaged by her feat?

Why do all the characters need to get it, I'm not arguing it in the 1st place.

Just that,

A. the feat is unusable, we don't know what happened to her, she could have backscaled

B. all other feats higher are possible that it's an outlier

 

[Soupywolf5]

She could've but she likely doesn't as the feat is supported by Robot Flower's feat

If there's just as many 7-B+ feats as there are High 7-C ones then they're not really outliers

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Blah, blah, blah, being biased just to keep Objects from continuing to wreck the MCU before they get upgraded How? You do realize saying someone was ko'd for hours or days makes less sense than saying that she was undamaged, and RF's isn't the only feat, as the absolute worst to be said about Needle's is that she would backscale, but given that a higher feat was done casually it makes more sense to say that she was undamaged rather than she was knocked out for days on end Ignoring that that's not even possible without a brai

Why do I got a feeling you are doing this so you can spite the MCU even more, the MCU spite is dead. RF IS the only feat above that, besides that, we got a bunch of Tier 7 and 8 feats. At worst this means the RF is an outlier since they backscale from 7-B when a feat stronger is done casually.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

She could've but she likely doesn't as the feat is supported by Robot Flower's feat
If there's just as many 7-B+ feats as there are High 7-C ones then they're not really outliers

Hmm, let's see.

2 High 7-C feat, around 2 Tier 8 feats, 1 7-B feat which is actually verifiable, 1 7-B feat we don't know about

 

[Soupywolf5]

You're still not explaining what makes Needle's feat unusable, the possibility of her being ko'd is unlikely when there's another 7-B+ feat done casually that's even higher, and even if she was that doesn't make the feat invalid (And that wouldn't make a feat not even 1.5x higher than it an outlier)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

You're still not explaining what makes Needle's feat unusable, the possibility of her being ko'd is unlikely when there's another 7-B+ feat done casually that's even higher, and even if she was that doesn't make the feat invalid (And that wouldn't make a feat not even 1.5x higher than it an outlier)

Hmmm, simple.

For that 1 week, we don't see her and what happens to her.

And since we don't know IF she got knocked out, best case scenario is just a Possibly 7-B, but solid 7-B has made it's run and it will stay that way. In fact, we can use some logic to see that 7-B is usually out of their normal feat level, all the time, so someone getting KO'd by a 7-B feat makes more sense, used the argument against you.

Also, why are you assigning AP Gaps for outliers, if someone did a feat outside of the possible limits someone shown that was lower, then it's an outlier

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I am open to Possibly 7-B as a compromise now, so I think we may just have to compromise on this

 

[Soupywolf5]

We don't see her for a week, but we know that she was undamaged as any wounds would've taken too long to heal for her to appear completely unharmed

And nobody's suggesting solid 7-B, Possibly 7-B has been the argued Tiering almost the entire time Just ignore the suggested Likely 7-B above

Nobody's assigning an AP gap on outliers, I'm simply saying that a feat that's barely higher wouldn't fall into that category

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

As a compromise, I will go with Possibly 7-B with an at least High 7-C

 

[Soupywolf5]

Okay

 

[Soupywolf5]

Has the High 7-A MCU calc been accepted yet? (Really off-topic, I know, but I lost the link to the calc)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

So, with the last opponent agreeing with Possibly 7-B, do we have enough to accept.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Has the High 7-A MCU calc been accepted yet?

It's been accepted for 2 months now, but before you can accept it you need to put it in a CRT and for people to accept, and due to the forum move and it being a small piece of an even bigger CRT, I am unsure if we should add High 7-A now

 

[Psychomaster35]

So, we agree with High 7-C possibly 7-B? Your opinions, Ant?

 

[Psychomaster35]

And for a side note, theres also another High 7-C feat I calced (being Two's crash landing to Earth), but it may only scale to him. There is no blog for it yet.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Why are so many of their feats from being flung/launched in some way?

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

What is left to agree on

 

[Antvasima]

So, we agree with High 7-C possibly 7-B? Your opinions, Ant?

If you have reached an agreement, it is probably fine to apply.

 

[Psychomaster35]

So, just to summarize about the tier, the final rating will be High 7-C, possibly 7-B. Is that fine to add? Anyone still disagreeing?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

So, just to summarize about the tier, the final rating will be High 7-C, possibly 7-B. Is that fine to add? Anyone still disagreeing?

Yeah, that can be a compromise.

But we need a good justification for Possibly 7-B on the pages

 

[Psychomaster35]

Large Town level (Comparable to X), possibly City level (Comparable to those who can harm Needle, who survived crashing into her cake at relativistic speeds, albeit it was unknown about her condition afterwards)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

At least Large Town level (Comparable to X and Robot Flower), possibly City level+ (Comparable to those who can harm Needle, who survived crashing into her cake, albeit it was unknown about her condition afterwards)

I think this is a bit better for the justification

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Wait! I just looked at the clip, and Needle had her eyes open and was only surprised while she left the atmosphere, and since the star level feat is an outlier, that is what might has caused her to get knocked out. The wind itself was no issue.

 

[FRIMI]

it isnt actually confirmed that she got knocked out

 

[Antvasima]

So should this be applied soon?

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

So should this be applied soon?

For the power downgrade, no one answered me yet.

 

[FRIMI]

could you repeat the question?