((SPOILERS)) Deltarune Chapter 2 Upgrades/Additions

[Lou_change]

Sorry I have trouble remembering which is which for these two threads.
Flight would be separate I just thought since it's on fire.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I'd like to ask you all if we should do the following profiles:

Lancer
King

Btw, we doing Lancer vs King in the future, that'll be fun.

 

[Daddybrawl]

Btw, we doing Lancer vs King in the future, that'll be fun.

Shouldn’t the answer be obvious? King is both far more skilled, older, and far more powerful.
King has Spade Magic alongside his Whips and Spikes, and can handle 3 members of the Fan Club at once while Lancer loses to two.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Shouldn’t the answer be obvious? King is both far more skilled, older, and far more powerful.
King has Spade Magic alongside his Whips and Spikes, and can handle 3 members of the Fan Club at once while Lancer loses to two.

In wiki terms, the answer is never obvious. (King loses to the three of them, btw), Since they both scale below the same feat, Lancer might have a chance.

Either way, it won't be a stomp, so I'd like to see what happens, even if Lancer loses.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Well, I can change to "possibly Transformation". Would that be better?

Maybe summoning? Lol

"Weakness: As a Darkner, Lancer can only exist within a Dark Fountain. If he is sent out of a Dark Fountain, he will immediately turn into the Jack of Spades card. If Lancer is incompatible with it, he will become a stone statue once exposed to the world for a few minutes."

Should I add this weakness to every other darkner too?

EDIT: The incompatibility part won't be added to Ralsei

I'd like some feedback on that. I'll finish King's and Rouxls's profile by tomorrow probably.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

I'd like some feedback on that. I'll finish King's and Rouxls's profile by tomorrow probably.

The weakness should apply and a note should be added to their profiles that the matches should only happen in specific locations.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

The weakness should apply and a note should be added to their profiles that the matches should only happen in specific locations.

Done'zo

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Done'zo

Noice

 

[Deleted member 16409]

"9-B, 9-A with Thrash Machine"?

9-A key should have BASELINE 9-B or 9-C durabillity cause he got only 0 DEF and 600 HP unlike others, a can be destroyed like...
150×2=300 300×2=600
2 turns to just easily kill him.
Btw make 9-B 9-A and Unknown via True Power Kaard

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Lancer's page is up

Please let me know if I forget anything.

Make "bouncing" thingy and upgrade his average intellect to above that level via creating Thrash Machine within less than 5 minutes with Susie

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Also, Game Mechanics ARE "canon" to the lore of Undertale

Still, question, can you upgrade Noelle attack potency or make some note about "Ignoring physical defence via IceShock&Snowgrave"? Btw, soul Manipulation damage decreases 4.5x times according to Susie who doin 100 damage automatically on chapter 1 but doin 30~ damage in vs Susie&Lancer fight. But Spells upgrades physical damage 1.5x or 10x or 40x times according to Susie, cause Rude Buster making 150 damage, and Snowgrave Noelle who did 40 damage with Fight but doing 300+ damage with IceShock and 1600 with snowgrave

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Lancer's page is up

Please let me know if I forget anything.

Make friction manipulation via sliding on ANY location without any problem

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Still, question, can you upgrade Noelle attack potency or make some note about "Ignoring physical defence via IceShock&Snowgrave"? Btw, soul Manipulation damage decreases 4.5x times according to Susie who doin 100 damage automatically on chapter 1 but doin 30~ damage in vs Susie&Lancer fight. But Spells upgrades physical damage 1.5x or 10x or 40x times according to Susie, cause Rude Buster making 150 damage, and Snowgrave Noelle who did 40 damage with Fight but doing 300+ damage with IceShock and 1600 with snowgrave

Toby said Susie is as strong as she is in the party when you fight her. Kris and Ralsei has more defense than Chapter 1 enemies.

And no multipliers with damage numbers, that's dumb.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Toby said Susie is as strong as she is in the party when you fight her. Kris and Ralsei has more defense than Chapter 1 enemies.

And no multipliers with damage numbers, that's dumb.

I mean Soul Manipulation doin lower damage than Susie physical attacks

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

And no multipliers with damage numbers, that's dumb.

Agreed

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Still, question, can you upgrade Noelle attack potency or make some note about "Ignoring physical defence via IceShock&Snowgrave"?

I will soon enough. Snowgrave will remain Multi-City Block as she is still creating that much Ice with her power.

Btw, soul Manipulation damage decreases 4.5x times according to Susie who doin 100 damage automatically on chapter 1 but doin 30~ damage in vs Susie&Lancer fight.

As explained, Kris' defense is much higher, and Susie' magic does take defense into consideration.

But Spells upgrades physical damage 1.5x or 10x or 40x times according to Susie, cause Rude Buster making 150 damage

Rude Buster uses the ATK stat, and it's formula allows for greater damage per ATK point.

, and Snowgrave Noelle who did 40 damage with Fight but doing 300+ damage with IceShock and 1600 with snowgrave

IceShock/Snowgrave use the Magic stat, while fighting uses the ATK stat. There is no multiplier there

 

[Deleted member 16409]

k then

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Btw is there Explosion Manipulation in Lancer and Queen?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Btw is there Explosion Manipulation in Lancer and Queen?

maybe

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I mean, doesn't Lancer do that once for funnies?

 

[Lou_change]

I mean he still does it.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

I mean, doesn't Lancer do that once for funnies?

He could have that via ramming his bike into his opponent very very hard.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

He could have that via ramming his bike into his opponent very very hard.

Explosions from slamming someone very very hard gives my this vibe

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Explosions from slamming someone very very hard gives my this vibe

Noice

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Queen can have explosion manip with optional equipment I guess.

Also, Roulxs should probably just be 9-A. He can take hits from Kris and Ralsei, and the boxes attack during his fight isn't from the machine. Roulxs himself has been associated with boxes before, and the box attack is a constant between the different variations of the machine.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Queen can have explosion manip with optional equipment I guess.

Also, Roulxs should probably just be 9-A. He can take hits from Kris and Ralsei, and the boxes attack during his fight isn't from the machine. Roulxs himself has been associated with boxes before, and the box attack is a constant between the different variations of the machine.

My boy throwing 9-A boxes at us, that's wild.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Queen can have explosion manip with optional equipment I guess.

Doesn't she always have extra dangerous glass in her inventory?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

My boy throwing 9-A boxes at us, that's wild.

Its funny how a box, does more damage than an exploding duck.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

My boy throwing 9-A boxes at us, that's wild.

9-A, soul-damaging boxes.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

9-A, soul-damaging boxes.

Imagine someone throws a cardboard box at you and your soul gets ******* dEsTrOyEd

I'm adding "Explosion Manipulation with his bike" to Lancer, and "Explosion Manipulation with her throwing glass" to Queen.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

I'm adding "Explosion Manipulation with his bike" to Lancer, and "Explosion Manipulation with her throwing glass" to Queen.

add her car to the list as well.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I mean, 9-A boxes isn't that hard to believe in a world with 9-B carrots and 9-A words lol

 

[GodlyCharmander]

add her car to the list as well.

Doubt her car will be used in any Vs Match, but aight

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Rouxls will get two keys, I want to avoid CRTs making him scaling below the king and thus, king is 9-A

He will be
Unknown in his chapter 1 key (as we do not fight him), and 9-A with his chapter 2 key

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Does he really need a C1 key? We never fight him, and the only power he showcases is Teleportation.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Does he really need a C1 key? We never fight him, and the only power he showcases is Teleportation.

I already explained why he needs it, we really want to avoid his 9-A being applied to the king by someone.

 

[Lou_change]

Add a note also it is possible he just wanted to serve king he wanted to serve queen if I recall.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

King's page is up.

He is extremely underpowered in terms of hax, even Lancer dwarfs him in that department, so if ANYONE knows any hax he might have, please, inform me.

If you have a problem in the way I word things (English is not my native language), or if I forgot anything, PLEASE, tell me.

 

[Daddybrawl]

Isn’t his weapon a Whip thing, not a spear?
Also Involving’s spelt Envolving smh

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Isn’t his weapon a Whip thing, not a spear?

Seems like a spear to me, but I guess a whip works.

Also Involving’s spelt Envolving smh

****

Either way, I'm finishing Rouxls's profile right up, I'll watch a video with all possible attacks for the Thrash Machine... Using it in a VS Match will be hell because you need to be very specific to the kind of machine you want Rouxls to use.