Spider-Man vs. Ruby Rose

[Schnee_One]

Which is in favor of Ruby as she's stronger, actually uses her versatility, has an aura to help against anything that isn't restraint etc.

Spider also doesn't restrain people in character that often anymore, he failed when he tried to restrain Bucky and falcon albeit barely, he failed entirely against Cap just from the sheer difference in skill despite Spidey having every advantage.

What suitable range? He didn't bother against Star Lord and Ruby can fly.

You're really overestimating Spidey's character here

 

[Jinx666]

? Why are you saying anymore as if he used to do it? Civil war was his debut. In his latest debuts, as in his own movie and Infinity War, he has been shown trying to restrain people (Mantis, that one thug dude, Vulture),or at least using his webs to provide minor inconvenience to the likes of Purple daddy Thanos.

Ruby's versatility is a bit meh, seeing as she only uses electricity to boost Nora, she hasnt used this ice dust she apparently has, And i'd say Spidey's suit and Aura are similar enough to be nullfiied, since they are both armours that will deplete their abilities if taken enough damage.

That was more or less a team battle, where Spidey was too freaked out by best girl, while Iron man was sorting out Star Lord for that incredibly small fight. Its not as effective to go off on

 

[Schnee_One]

He did used to do it

He no longer does.

Vulture never got restrained, he broke out, and restraining a random thug or Mantis is hardly notable at all.

Still better then Spiderman who literally never uses anything that isn't his normal webs.

Not an excuse, he had more then enough time to gain his ground after getting kicked and gave himself breathing room after dodging, yet still made the descision to charge Star Lord, which cost him.

He also decided to physically attack forking Thanos of all people

Mantis is bae though, not disagreeing

 

[Jinx666]

Its not notable on these sense of power wise, its more in the sense that Spidey WILL go for the adhesives to restrain his opponent when it calls for it, and especially with a lock on built into his suit, Ruby cant keep dodging forever.

And once he realises he's outmatched by Ruby in Cqc, he would definitely go for the webs after most likely failing to do shit

Mantis is indeed bae

 

[Schnee_One]

True but that's not what I mean, Manyis and the Thug are examples of him using it, but it working on someone who is not only capable of putting up a much better fight back but has the expirience to counter them Spiderman has yet to do

Ruby is still smart enough and versatile and physically strong enough to escape them, putting emphasis on the Captian America example again. And even then, he has to use it before getting knocked down like he did with Starlord

Marvel has a ton of bae's TBH, Scarlet Witch especially....

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Marvel has a ton of bae's TBH, Scarlet Witch especially....

Very good taste indeed, Monsieur Gargoyle.

 

[Jinx666]

The webs when stacked however and at constant firing would still be a complete inconvenience to Ruby, and the time she takes to take off any of these webs can still be crucial in this fight and allow Spidey to strike. Plus them being able to jam her sniper, decrease the manouverability mid fight of Crescent rose, and then get immediately slapped after she cant fight without her things.

I dont see how Rubys intelligence will help her escape the lock on webs, the only thing she can use to perhaps avoid them is her semblance, but she cant hold that forever. Plus, with any wind currents she makes, Spidey could use those spider legs on his to embed himself into the ground.

And tbf, Starlord didnt really win in any Cqc aspects. He merely slapped one of those insta-tie gadgets when Spidey was about to pounce after dodging his attacks. It isnt really that much of a relevant example. And the Captain America stuff was cause, well, hes Captain america, Wayyyyy more skilled than Ruby, even in MCU, and Spidey faces the same disadvanatges physically, and this was before he got his nice new suit.

Im fighting a losing battle tbh, but as long as people dont blame me for voting spidey out of spite rip, but with his constant Webbing, its gonna be too much of a burden on Ruby for her to win.

 

[Schnee_One]

I know you're not voting out of spite dude, it's cool.

Sure intellect doesn't let you physically break the webs, but they let you dodge and avoid them or take down the user when they have their guard down, Cap and Starlord example.

How Starlord beat Spidey is irrelevant. It's still an example of Spider-Man's mindset screwing him over and ABC logic sure, but Starlord is much less versatile or as physically strong as Ruby

Yes, Cap is more skilled then Ruby, but Spiderman is less skilled then both and he's dealing with someone physically stronger, more versatile and has a passive shield, all of which Cap didn't have

 

[Jinx666]

But neither of those fights was the case when they were taking down Spiderman's guard while he was about to shoot the webbing. But i dont know how ruby's questionable intellect is meant to help her dodge auto lock on from an AI suit most likely smarter than her

Starlord is pretty versatile tbh, hes got all these sorts of gadgets and guns (mainly in the comics, but this starlord has a lot of weapon prowess too), But Spiderman of course exclusively doesnt have a problem with CQC, its just that unlike Starlord who tied him up, Ruby doesn't have anything in her arsenal that could trap him before he makes the decision to fight at a further range, and Spiderman would still win CQC if Ruby cant use her weapon properly.

Spidey has his armour which acts similarly to aura, a lot of options, albeit its unlikely he'll use it to the full potential (But Karen can assist him if she needs to, a.k.a. the electric webs that can damage Ruby and bypass her aura, imo it seems) etc. But it wont help if Ruby is constantly being assaulted by adhesives that limit a lot of her attacks and mobility.

 

[Schnee_One]

Not really, his only standard equipment are jet boots, guns and the gadget, the first he didn't even use and the second wouldn't have done anything.

Anyway, I got college, peace

 

[Jinx666]

See ya, and a lot of his equipment should be on the page, cause here