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@Kuu You kinda need to give actual reasoning, not just 'i dont like this so it doesnt count'
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Spider-Man vs. Ruby Rose
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@Jinx 1. Can absolutely fight without a weapon, hell her best feat pre-timeskip was done without her weapon. Spidey on the other hand has basically no actual skill feats done on his own.
2. She doesnt barely use them, she spams them lol.
3. You mean the beringel she killed by shooting? And yeah no shit she cant shoot through an aura user let alone one who is 8-B. At a range she has consistently shown to use ranged attacks.
4. How does that make it an inconvenience though? She can still use all of its functions even if its stuck in its expanded mode and she regularly keeps it in expanded mode while abusing her mobility.
5. Yes actually it is, try to pull something out of a boxer's hand if they dont want you to have it. His webs dont have lifting strength, they have tensile strength, thats different.
6. Which he rarely uses. Wont be able to hit her with webs, yes she can stay in speed form, at the range theyre starting at she will opt for range over CQC as its in character for her to do so. His webs havent demonstrated much in the way of durability and what they have demonstrated is Wall level at best (As in they were only calced to have wall level durability) so yes she can shoot through them.
7. Holding back =/= having lower durability.
8. No, there isnt a difference. There is no reason to assume she would fight any differently against a different opponent.
Because i would never do such a thing and would instantly give up my staff position before i did. If someone doesnt call out the debunked votes then this thread wont last a single day on either profile before it gets taken to the removal thread for faulty reasoning, dont you people understand that? Why does it always have to devolve into accusations when im just trying to do my job and make things as accurate as possible? If i dont do it then no one will, sorry you dont like it but thats the truth.
2. She doesnt barely use them, she spams them lol.
3. You mean the beringel she killed by shooting? And yeah no shit she cant shoot through an aura user let alone one who is 8-B. At a range she has consistently shown to use ranged attacks.
4. How does that make it an inconvenience though? She can still use all of its functions even if its stuck in its expanded mode and she regularly keeps it in expanded mode while abusing her mobility.
5. Yes actually it is, try to pull something out of a boxer's hand if they dont want you to have it. His webs dont have lifting strength, they have tensile strength, thats different.
6. Which he rarely uses. Wont be able to hit her with webs, yes she can stay in speed form, at the range theyre starting at she will opt for range over CQC as its in character for her to do so. His webs havent demonstrated much in the way of durability and what they have demonstrated is Wall level at best (As in they were only calced to have wall level durability) so yes she can shoot through them.
7. Holding back =/= having lower durability.
8. No, there isnt a difference. There is no reason to assume she would fight any differently against a different opponent.
Because i would never do such a thing and would instantly give up my staff position before i did. If someone doesnt call out the debunked votes then this thread wont last a single day on either profile before it gets taken to the removal thread for faulty reasoning, dont you people understand that? Why does it always have to devolve into accusations when im just trying to do my job and make things as accurate as possible? If i dont do it then no one will, sorry you dont like it but thats the truth.
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You can also close the thread so it doesn't continueKaltias said:
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@Kalt Thank you
I know i'd be accused of bias if i closed this so im kind of in a bad spot
I know i'd be accused of bias if i closed this so im kind of in a bad spot
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And yet again thats your opinion. I could say the same thing to you but you wouldn't take it on board.WeeklyBattles said:
What's spiting the RWBY verse? i haven't been on in a good while, and voting against ruby = spiting, despite me actually giving reasons why i think against this. And i don't agree with a lot of your basis like your judgement of the character and how they would fight in circumstances, the fact you switch on and off to arguments whether semblances fuel aura (they do), The component of aura (Tbf, Roosterteeth make it shit to follow), and your over stretched use of Grimm Eclipse abilities that dont relate o the storyline. That's it summarised, it isn't spite, and while i cant say im satisfied with the way you haven't changed, i'm doing my best to try and tell you this in a civil manner.
Not only that, but theres been rare occasions i agree with you. People disagreeing with you isn't spite or causing this fictional verse a problem.
Overall point is, you cant revoke votes if its legitimately just you agreeing to your own terms. If something was truly debunked, you would have others agreeing.
Thats all i want to say.
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Except i dont, im not the type to hold grudges.
Arguing electricity bypasses aura when it doesnt, writing off skilled characters as 'bad writing', arguing that their fighting style magically changes for no reason, arguing semblances drain aura when it doesnt, etc.
lol you have never once agreed with me.
And i did have others agreeing, something you conveniently ignored.
Anyways, im done here, ive already given the reasoning why Ruby takes this
Arguing electricity bypasses aura when it doesnt, writing off skilled characters as 'bad writing', arguing that their fighting style magically changes for no reason, arguing semblances drain aura when it doesnt, etc.
lol you have never once agreed with me.
And i did have others agreeing, something you conveniently ignored.
Anyways, im done here, ive already given the reasoning why Ruby takes this
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It does though. We've seen multiple people get taken out and stunned unconscious by electricity wihtout any hint that their aura has gone multiple times. It doesnt break aura, but the fact it can basically turn people unconcious just shows it bypasses. The Bad writing comes into play on how Ruby, who should be as skilled as you say she is, just overall doing the stupidest things. Thats no ones fault but the show, and we still have to follow it. Cause RWBY's latest volume is terrible and unclear. Once again opinion based, but you honestly cant deny that Ruby prefers CQC to far range, and fighting people =/= fighting grimm in RWBY. We've had official confirmation from a quote that you showed me, that when aura is gone, they can't use their semblances. Yes, the one instance of the yang trailer was an exception, and that was down to miles and kerry not being able to remember shit, And Qrow's semblance working differently to every single one in the show, with barely any indications on whats beenaffected by his semblance or not. Lol i have, i have supported RWBY in the past, but it seems that you only ever say that RWBY wins...like, all the time, which is impossible to agree with all the time. With some really farfetch'd assumptions. I am a supporter of RWBY, but that doesn't mean i should be biased towards it. and not everyone who agrees to RWBY's loss makes it a spite.WeeklyBattles said:
No one agreed with you that the votes should have been revoked on either side. You were the only one who voted Ruby who was saying that, but frankly you need a much wider say than just you to make a decision like that, and very little opposition.
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I honestly see a lot of people just saying "Spiderman fra" just to spite Weekly.
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While I freaking love Spidey, more than Ruby, she does take this against Tom Holland's version.
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Yeah, ruby has this in my opinion, garbage bs arguments apart.
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Really, people are ignoring how weak Spider-Man is without his web, how he has no idea how to use most of his Tech Suit or Iron Spider Suit's best features, how he has terrible fighting skill, and is just overall an easily scared teenager.
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Spidey has zero h2h training. Ruby does. She's not lesser than him skillwise even without Crescent Rose.
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I really wouldn't say he would be the weaker one in a hand to hand fight. Heck, would there ever be a point where Spidey cant use any of his weapons and would have to resort to that. For Ruby there would, and he can still take out your average thug, meanwhile Ruby was pretty easily beat by the White Fang members, who weren't much.The real cal howard said:
And it is thanks to bad writing on Roosterteeths part that Ruby never really demonstrates this kind of skill recently, cause no way in hell shes a master hand to hand because she headbutt Mercury
Is there any way she can counter target lock-on adhesive webs?
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Spidey for jinx reasons
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Eh **** it
Ruby Spanks FRA
Ruby Spanks FRA
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Spider-Man actually struggles with thughs a lot in his movie lol.
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Ya know what, screw it
Adding on what Matt said, Spiderman has consistently shown that enemies with a good expirience advantage over him are capable of predicting his moves quite easily.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ez5qkKj4wo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_awRgINS0ao
In both of these examples, someone much weaker physically then Spidey was able to predict, counter, and KO him perfectly fine
This is basically those fights but with a girl with albeit less skill, but is physically stronger, more versatile, and has a passive shield
There's no reason she shouldn't take this
Adding on what Matt said, Spiderman has consistently shown that enemies with a good expirience advantage over him are capable of predicting his moves quite easily.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ez5qkKj4wo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_awRgINS0ao
In both of these examples, someone much weaker physically then Spidey was able to predict, counter, and KO him perfectly fine
This is basically those fights but with a girl with albeit less skill, but is physically stronger, more versatile, and has a passive shield
There's no reason she shouldn't take this
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They also state numerous times that Captain America would beat Spider-Man in a fight in the movies.
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Correct, Iron Man stated that in homecoming
If expirience alone got Spiderman defeated despite being much stronger, how the **** is he winning here against an opponent with every advantage against him?
If expirience alone got Spiderman defeated despite being much stronger, how the **** is he winning here against an opponent with every advantage against him?
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Ruby FRA off Weekly's observation.
I also thought Spidey's thug trouble was mostly off cockiness, but overall I don't see this version of Spider-man winning.
I also thought Spidey's thug trouble was mostly off cockiness, but overall I don't see this version of Spider-man winning.
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This is all well and true i suppose, but is there any way Ruby can counter Spidey's webs? Like, its in his character to use them, He more or less starts off with them, his suit provides a lock on feature, and frankly all they need to do it get one good shot on either Ruby or Crescent Rose to immediately limit her. And i mean, Spiderman w/ gear would beat Ruby w/o her weapon.
I cant think of any situation where the fight would have to be CQC in the first place.
I cant think of any situation where the fight would have to be CQC in the first place.
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Ruby for reasons above.
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Switching my vote to RR for Weekly's reasons
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I am voting for Ruby Rose, from Weekly's arguments
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I meanJinx666 said:
Captian America and Starlord did.
And going into CQC is not our of character for spider, as he attempted to do so twice in both fights.
Both fights are people with a huge expirience advantage defeating spider despite him having the edge in every category.
While a wouldn't say Ruby is as skilled as Captian America, she has the advantage in everything else with more expirience on top of it
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Thats true, but do we go for the one with the more advantages or the one with the most decisive advantage, that is the webs that can immediately limit Ruby. Cause Spidey has more times tried to web up the guns and weapons of his opponents (Unless they're Thanos)
Spidey will of course turn to webs at a suitable range, unlike Cap, and if Ruby is kicking his ass in CQC, then id like to think he would try and restrain her with the webs. And theres nothing much Ruby could do if the auto lock on webs catch her
Spidey will of course turn to webs at a suitable range, unlike Cap, and if Ruby is kicking his ass in CQC, then id like to think he would try and restrain her with the webs. And theres nothing much Ruby could do if the auto lock on webs catch her
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