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Here I explained why Sonic's time stop resistance makes no sense btw
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Sonic Vs Megaman (CONCLUDED)
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And can you tell me like, Sonic's wincons? Somebody just list them
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Ok, let's try to calm down our weapons and describe the win cons for both and then picking more likely(Just don't want it turning into large war, with abusing each other which at least doesn't giving a process for debate).
Win con for Megaman(as far as I can see): Find out the weakness of Sonic and try to use it against him, keeping the long distance or otherwise get out skilled in CQC.
Win con for Sonic (as far as I can see): Get close to Megaman and beat him.
Now you can correct me and debate choosing more likely win con, cause I already see war began so let's at least mitigate the consequences.
Win con for Megaman(as far as I can see): Find out the weakness of Sonic and try to use it against him, keeping the long distance or otherwise get out skilled in CQC.
Win con for Sonic (as far as I can see): Get close to Megaman and beat him.
Now you can correct me and debate choosing more likely win con, cause I already see war began so let's at least mitigate the consequences.
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Wincon for Mega Man is way better AP, arsenal, better analytical prediction and centaur flash. Sonic doesn't even start with his power ups
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People mindlessly FRAing despite sonic has no wincons to start with is ridiculous
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Man you can't just say "nah this resistance doesn't count because I don't agree with it", it was accepted in a CRT before this match, you can't cherrypick shit from a page
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Classic "make a CRT first" without even trying to actually debunk shit
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People are FRA because they don't agree with you, seriously just cope, your arguments are just stating Sonic doesn't have stuff because you say so, there's nothing to debunk because there's no evidence to debunk, all I have to say is "no, you are wrong"
Anyways 15-9 right now
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Yes you are. Sonic has no good win cons. Seriously, list them. And before you name them, he doesn't start with wisps. They are FRAing cause they see votes for sonic. I'm pretty sure they didn't even read the thread
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However sonic on his franchise doesn't actually had more power ups rather than his own techniques(like in first page every ability you would see to sonic is on his own, without any power ups).
Don't remember exactly analytical prediction from Megaman, but remember adaptation argumentation from X_Squared.
Centaluar flash as far as I can see isn't much a power up for Megaman to be big effective on sonic, and also not a thing Megaman would use in first place.
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He wouldn't use centaur flash, but sonic apparently would use his wisps? Analytical prediction is when Flash Man uused time stop and mega man predicted where he's going to appear
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You explained nothing. The time stop resistance also appears in the scenes for the story itself and characters talking while time literally stands still and the level freezes.
Also just saying "I don't agree therefore it's wrong" is such a stupid argument, because 8 can say "I don't like your points so they're wrong" too and bam you got debunked. See how stupid your argument sounds now?
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I mean, I also provided arguments. Also, don't forget to list actual sonic win cons
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yes, because Sonic used the wisps many times in Sonic Colors and Generations
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Where did I said sonic would use Wisps in first place? Like, I didn't even said any word about "wisps".
Don't remember that in game however to point out sonic have analytical prediction as well.
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Also lost world.
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But not in later games. He doesn't usually start with them. And please list his win cons
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Man, I don't know what to say, stop being salty and let people vote, we are still 10 hours from grace after all
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Would like to agree on listing of win cons because this is now more matters(
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15-10 now
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I think I stated why wisps don't work. SONIC DOESN'T START WITH THEM.
AND MEGA MAN CAN REPLICATE WISP WIN CONS.
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1. Sonic gets close to Mega Man and overwhelm him with vastly superior CQC experience
2. Ring time him and turn him into a ring
3. Violet Void him away
4. Use Time Brake to essentially stop him in time (or at the very least slow him down in time so much it would almost appeared like he's stopped completely) and then get close to overwhelm him with CQC
5. Sonic can also self-resurrect himself which means he'll come back even if Mega Man kills him, but this time much more serious and just hax him away
6. Seal him with the Magic hand
7. BFR him away with Chaos Control (since the Chaos Emeralds are standard equipment. And no just because Sonic have them doesn't mean he'll transform) or Seal him outside of space and time
Gilad_Hyperstar
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How exactly? I would like to see you explaining this
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But was Megaman able to copy biological abilities in first place?
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Yes, you stated, not explained, stop just stating shit
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1. Mega Man overwhelms sonic with AP.
2. Mega man uses a tank to turn sonic into a power up when his health is full
3.Mega man has his own black hole.
4. Can work.
5.Incap.
6. Requires him to get close which is exactly something Rock will avoid.
7. Teleportation go brrr
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Ok, you seriously are gonna tell me rn that Sonic usually starts with wisps?
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Has his own black hole. And can transmute with super tank.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Too bad for him Sonic resists the pull of Black Holes
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I remember sonic running away from black hole just saying.
But let's just begin from point 1 to not confuse each other.
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Too bad so does Mega Man. And not like he even resists, he has to keep running which will leave him open
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well, black holes also not much infinite, while Sonic's teleportation or time stop can also save Sonic from black hole.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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1. Not really, Sonic scales massively above his calc so he's actually not that much in an AP disadvantage at all. Also skill matters, especially since Mega Man isn't adept at CQC, especially not as much as Sonic is
2. How does that even work? And does he even uses that in character?
3. So what? Sonic resists it and can also phase through it with Jade Ghost. Or time brake to quickly escape it
5. If Mega Man kills Sonic and he resurrects himself, Sonic will recognize him as a threat and will restort to quckly hax him, such as with Time Brake and Ring Time combo
6. Sonic doesn't need to get close to use the Magic hands
7. Can Mega Man escape being sealed outside of space time or escape a 2-C BFR? I don't think so
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Ok guys for real lest calm down things are getting heated for no reason
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the votes are getting really close holayy who’s gonna win this?
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So we're relying on AoE arguments for Absolute Zero on a guy who can... Just teleport away? He's not gonna be all "Oooo a tornado. This is gonna be EPIC getting sucked up by this thing". And don't even use cockiness as an example, that almost is a specific weakness against Eggman or rivals, not serious enemies. Sonic is a combat pragmatist, he's going to utilize things such as Chaos Control when they need to be utilized. Not to mention things like Time Break and Speed Break will allow Sonic to get rid of any distance between them or, in reverse, even use those techniques in defensive measures to... Well, not get touched by even those AoE attacks.
Wisps aren't his first choice, but they're extremely in-character for him to use. I'm not sure why Da Lunge was arguing he'd never use them, then name games where Sonic literally can't freely use them as evidence.l Colors and Lost World both rely heavily on Wisps and their powers. And the moment Sonic whips out one like Indigo Asteroid or Violet Void, it's over for Mega Man. Because Sonic is going to use them when he's sure he'll nab him.
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also i hope this thred doesn’t get closed
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it's not a stomp and that kind of wars are usual in debates, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be closed and conclusion would be made.
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@sanicspood Might wanna change the title. We ARE in grace again.
