He doesn't actually say that at all. Shadow only says that he'll either fight on equal terms or not at all in response to him preparing to fire a sneak attack using a new power at Sonic. It's a showing of Shadow's honor, not Shadow admitting any inferiority.
Eh, I hardly see it as a Super-level amp. Honestly, it prolly just makes him stronger, but not Super level. Besides, it isn't uncommon for us to have seen Adventure-level final bosses being taken down by base level/around base level characters.
In the JP script, Shadow says Metal Overlord will never reach Sonic's level after defeating him
Shadow in the Metal Overlord fight wasn't really particularly amped. All he had was the equivalent of a boat for terrain advantage. I still think Shadow VS Metal Overlord is a Base Shadow feat. Only ones that seem to amp Shadow are Doom Wing and Doom Blast (vaguely).
I don't think everything in the JP script should be taken as absolute gospel considering we have multiple instances of Sonic Team outright stating that they are equals. So it's just conflicting with what we already know and have been told.
What's the issue here? Shadow thinks pretty low of Metal Overlord. That's incredibly simple
There wasn't any issue, I was just stating that I don't think Shadow was amped during the Metal Overlord fight in Shadow Gens. He's really just riding a surfboard, so I attribute it to a Base Shadow feat. (I say this because people refer to Shadow with any form of Doom Powers as being amped).
Yes with Doom Wing specifically along with stuff like Doom Blast and I suppose Doom Spear (situationally). However, the Doom Surf only provides aquatic terrain advantages and a attack reflection move, but doesn't really amp him at all. Only Doom Surf and Doom Spear were used, but Shadow didn't even use Doom Spear directly against Metal Overlord. I just don't think it really counts and don't think ALL Doom Powers amp Shadow.
Black Doom is as strong as Shadow as their linked Blood make him grow alongside him, therefore this is a Modern Era Super boss, and thus Doom Shadow is also a Super Level amp
That doesn't really make it a boost. He just has a different move to use because of the transformation. It doesn't increase raw statistics.
I don't think that makes it a Super-level form at all. It just makes Doom Wing Shadow a strong ability he can utilize. Black Doom is as strong as Shadow sure, but that doesn't make Devil Doom Super-level, especially these days. Devil Doom was a Super-level boss in the Adventure Era, but previous Super-level bosses in Gens seem to be reduced to around base-level threats. It's hard to really calculate. I'd say it could POSSIBLY be in the Super ballpark, but I wouldn't say it's close to the Super Form.
I agree. At least for powers that make sense to not be one-offs (like the Werehog). However, I guess it makes sense that Shadow didn't have them because he definitely would have used them in future games.
yeah it does when Devil Doom itself is a Super Level amp, as it is what it made Doom be able to fight Super Shadow
Devil Doom is a Super Level transformation, therefore, Base Doom being a Modern era base level makes Modern Devil Doom a Modern level form as well
i never brought up invincibility, dunno why you are talking about it
Base Doom = Base Shadow.....so duh?
Black Doom increasing in strength is under the context of Shadow acquiring more Doom Powers, which would mean base Black Doom should equal Doom Shadow without Doom Wing. On top of that Doom’s Eye can keep up with and take a couple hits from Shadow at four different levels of power, further suggesting the gap between Black Doom and Devil Doom isn’t massive in Gens.
As a huge Onimusha fan who hasn't had a game for 18 years, I'd rather our Netflix anime be in the abyss of obscurity (like the series in general) than be swarmed by overwhelming tourism.
But we don't exactly know if that continues to be the case. Really, all we know is that Shadow fought Doom's eye for a bit and we don't even know if they're equal at that point. We know that they're linked, but we don't know if they're actually equal in power. For all we know, Black Doom really could've just been massively sandbagging. I just don't think Doom Wing Shadow is super-level. This is the same game that had Sonic fight Perfect Chaos in base with Shadow doing something similar but comparable to three super forms instead of one.
I like Tangle a lot, actually! Though, I just wish she wasn't so glued to Whisper at the hip. She hardly has her own thing going on and it leads to her feeling a bit bland oftentimes. Them being a team is all fine and good, but team members still have their own lives and such. I feel like there could be more to do with her, even if it's not very complex. I'd love to see her in the games and hope she's given more to do and say.
Largly the same! Whisper I imagine having a shoot them up gameplay style kinda like omega's using all the whispering, well Tangle kinds has potental either bouncing around her tails and launching herself and others with them
Moro saved the animation from just being a Bowser glazing fest. Sadly, not much you can do about a biased script.
I can imagine Tangle having some cool tail-type moves that'd help both in combat and platforming.
Wish they kept a bit more of the Death Egg Robot fighting ngl. It sorta just throws one punch and sits there for the rest of the fight in the final animation.
We can relate thankfully.
Gotta bring out the Sonic glazer to balance it all out. (Moro I mean lol)
For Whisper as a "super form* I imagine it be utilizing all the wisps at once, I'm not completely sure what a super forms for Tangle would be tho, granted tales dosen't have one either
He failed to balance it all, tho.
Tails does have a Super Form. It's in S&K3, Superstars, and technically Heroes. Though, planning Super Forms for them is tricky. Could just have the Chaos Emeralds but what makes their Super Forms. Either that or they get empowered forms similar to Doom Wing Shadow where it functions similarly.
An attempt, was done at least....
