The hilariously sad part about that is that even this key of Sonic at his weakest that's only relevant for his very first two appearances, is still stronger than base Mario according to the Wiki.Boop
Tier 6 Sonic? Wallahi I'm FINISHED!!
A.K.A. I'm adding a new key lol Hello Again! My lovely scholars! It's good to see you again. With my self-imposed break over, I wanted to get back into my revisions. Don't worry; my Sonic Revision Series will be continuing soon. Until then... Thanks to @Peptocoptr27 for bringing this up a few...vsbattles.com
While I do agree, I'm not even sure which tier I would have them at. They consistantly have feats way higher than that, but they can be about anywhere between tier 4 and tier 1.
Death Battle has NEVER respected Archie let alone the Sonic series in general (especially when it comes to powerscaling) despite what Ben Singer claims to. Especially after Wally West Vs Archie Sonic, they need to be gatekept away from touching anything that involves Archie Sonic in every way imaginable. Don't get me started on how they really screwed up the Game Series as well (cough cough Mario Vs Sonic 2018). Never in my life have I've seen so much bias and faulty PR-esc claims/arguments on why Wally West can just phase through anything Archie Sonic can based on out of context scans and terrible cosmology/dimensional tiering. They don't know a single thing about dimensional tiering and just claim that The DC Cosmology is infinitely greater in every way possible without even elaborating how or why. Even if you agree with that claim, Wally West's peak power is being present within a realm beyond the 5th dimesnion (making him 6th dimensional) at best. Wally West with that tiering is no where near the levels of Archie Sonic when comparing it with Archie Sonic's tiering let alone feats and haxes. Genuinely one of the worst pieces of content I've ever watched in my life. I don't care how good their animation is. Their research has and ALWAYS will be biased and rushed to meet that two episodes a month deadline. They need to go for good.
I forgot to ask. When will discussion regarding this thread (and other threads like it) take place to see if approval will come forth?So... Did you all see this posted in the 1-A hub?
BDE Archie Sonic
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To those who have a stance, how do you feel about this? Me personally, I'm beginning to HATE dimensional tiering kek.
To preface, all the arguments and reasoning are from @Brogeefrong himself. All I did was help him with grammar and structure.
This is so petty and disrespectful, not cool man.
I apologize. I got pretty heated. I'm just sick and tired of them doing this regarding their research for over a decade and most people eating it up and always pointing to them as an official source when in reality, it's either more subjective, or they're just incorrect.
I was referring to Archie.My brother as a Sonic fan I understand feeling as if death battle misrepresents and bastardises the franchise but no sonic is beating Wally
For Wally vs Sonic, i was kind of mad at first because of the huge losing streak of the Sonic verse, but this was basically the only loss of thiers (aside from maybe Mewtwo vs Shadow, which is still an awful episode) that I ended up agreeing with. Wally doesn't peak at 6D. He peaks at outerversal and irrelevant speed. They called Archie Sonic "basically unbeatable against almost anyone else" and gave him is fate hax even though it was very contentious at the time and still is today. So overall, I didn't hate the episode. I'm more bothered by its wasted potential and how out of character Sonic was at the end. Mario vs Sonic 2018 was dogshit though. I'll give you that.
Wally West Outerversial? Where did that come from? Either way, if these Outerversial Changes with Archie Sonic get approved, Wally still loses to Archie.
Nope, cause irrelevant speed go brrrrrrr. Wally ******* outran the speed force itself. That's just completely stupid but it's DC for ya
That's pretty fast but captain cold is faster. Really though it's so funny how flash can have some of the most bs feats in fiction but job in hilarious ways if that's what the plot demands.
In that 1-A thread for Archie Sonic, that Next Evolution Plane of existence where Time is irrelevant? Wouldn't that grant irrelevant speed? What about the Chaos Force being outside of time and space? Wouldn't that also grant irrelevant speed but on a higher plane of existence? Again, I'm basing these arguments off of that 1-A thread since you claim that Wally West is Outerversial (which again, I still don't see how). Again, these changes are still waiting to be discussed regardless of whether they will get approved or not so I hope discussion for those happens soon.
The guy behind the revision told me the answer to that question. It's a no.
What happened to the discussion regarding the revision? What made him change his mind? Is there going to be anything like it or another cosmology revision in the future (anyone can answer that question)?
What does that mean? That you're not sure yet?
Well if Qualitative Superiority is accepted then it would probably count for Irrelevant
Then you should've said yes, since qualitative superiority is what you're going for lol
There's a 1-A/High 1-A/Tier 0 queue thread.
Thank you very much for letting me know. Now, is that said thread the one that @Brogeefrong made or is it something else entirely? Or, is it that Off Panel Thread @ElixirBlue said he was doing?
Oh. Thank you for linking that to me. I really do appriciate it.1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub
Hi. Good to see you. So, it has finally happened. The new Tiering System is applied. Evil is defeated. We can all go home now. So, I'll be making this thread for a twofold purpose: 1. To keep track of the potential torrent of attempts at 1-A-through-0 upgrades resulting from the revisions...
Gru and Megamind are 100% obligated to fight each other.
In retrospect your right about that. But dr Doofenshmirtz might be more fitting for boom Eggman now that I think about it.
Pretty sure Doof stomps and has better matches still, but I respect your opinion
Sonic Vs Pinkie Pie (MLP and Equestria Girls Form).
After looking at their pages it seems kinda close. Although out of curiosity what matchups we're you referring to for doof having better matches. I must find the ideal match for boom Eggman.
TBF, you DID use the word "no" in that sentance just now.
*A rival free-for-all with Shadow, Knuckles, Blaze, Metal Sonic, Silver, Surge, Scourge and Jet (who let's be honest is the Volnutt of Sonic's rivals).
You should leave Scourge out of it. He's just gonna solo, especially with Death Battle'a research.
This one is surprisingly pretty likely. It had a Death Battle cast and multiple comissions. I prefer Zygarde as an opponent for Chaos simply because it's a closer match, but Kyogre has more connections I guess.
Emerl is very unlikely to be used, but I'm not really one to talk since I want Cream and Cheese vs Adeline and Ribbon.
Not sure I have a "most wanted" in regards to Sonic characters specifically, but for some reason I kinda vibe with Boom Sonic vs. Pacster (aka Ghostly Adventures Pac-Man).
