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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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ShakeResounding
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@CBslayeR Thank you for being willing to assist, man. Maybe a sandbox would work best to note all the additions.
I unironically played Speed Sim through the Xbox One, but before the story started getting serious and back when you unlocked characters through character cards found in the world.
I unironically played Speed Sim through the Xbox One, but before the story started getting serious and back when you unlocked characters through character cards found in the world.
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Recently I was playing villainous a game where you try and complete the objectives of disney villains and came up with an idea. Sonic question time if you had to choose one of the villains below and complete their objectives which one would you pick and what would you do differently to ensure their goals are successful? Also consider this as something of an isekai so if you choose Eggman for example you would get Sonic tier reaction speed when operating mechs so only the charecters mind is replaced meaning you get all other special abilities of the character. Last let's assume your moral compass is turned off for obvious reasons.
Option 1 Dr Starline: Surge and Kit are complete but they haven't started their training so they don't have beef with you yet. Your objective is to overthrow Eggman and have Surge and Kit replace Sonic and Tails.
Option 2 Dr Eggman from any game: You can choose any scheme Eggman has attempted and your only goal is to conquer the world and defeat Sonic.
Option 3 Shadow from SA2: Destroy the world that's about it.
Option 4 Mephiles: Merge with Iblis and become Solaris before successfully destroying the multiverse without getting bodied by a trio of shiny hedgehogs. Also get revenge on Shadow.
Option 5 Black Doom: Convince Shadow to join your side and once again conquer the world.
Option 1 Dr Starline: Surge and Kit are complete but they haven't started their training so they don't have beef with you yet. Your objective is to overthrow Eggman and have Surge and Kit replace Sonic and Tails.
Option 2 Dr Eggman from any game: You can choose any scheme Eggman has attempted and your only goal is to conquer the world and defeat Sonic.
Option 3 Shadow from SA2: Destroy the world that's about it.
Option 4 Mephiles: Merge with Iblis and become Solaris before successfully destroying the multiverse without getting bodied by a trio of shiny hedgehogs. Also get revenge on Shadow.
Option 5 Black Doom: Convince Shadow to join your side and once again conquer the world.
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Dr. Eggman: Pick the Forces world domination and kill Sonic in prison.
Unrelated note: do Sonic characters have defined ways to counter having their stats stolen, manipulated, swapped, lowered, etc.
Unrelated note: do Sonic characters have defined ways to counter having their stats stolen, manipulated, swapped, lowered, etc.
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Do what Mephiles did except actually go kill the cast when becoming Solaris instead of standing in the sky doing nothing.
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There’s a non-canon one. The Immunity Idol from Chronicles. Non-canon due to Penders, anyway, but they said that all games and RPGs would be counted.
So for the Death Battle, Eggman should have access to it. Likely under the logic they use for applying Legends continuity to SW. It contradicts nothing, was intended to be canon, and only was shot in the water by grumpy corpos, not because the story legitimately shouldn’t be counted.
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Was thinking about stuff like Iggy swapping stats of the Time Eater with a motobug or smthn like in SS.
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I may have made this too easy dang it. Guess that's what happens when the protagonists lose their plot armor.
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Easiest victory ever. Instead of going to the impressionable knockoff Trunks to kill Sonic, I go and just kill Sonic. I’m starting off the game with a Chaos Emerald and my own Time Powers—So all I need is to go the exact moment, kill Sonic, get Elise to cry, and I win. You may be asking, what about the other 6 Emeralds? The answer, is quite simple. I use the GODDAMN MASTER EMERALD. THAT EXISTS. IN THE FUTURE.
Even assuming I need the Chaos Emeralds, they should be in tact in my Future (hence why mine isn’t ******* shattered), so I can just collect them while no one can stop me because no one ******* knows I exist, or that the Emeralds exist, except Blaze.
ALSO, why not USE/KILL HER? She has the Sol Emeralds, which are as powerful. So they should be valid for me to use. Or steal the Miles Electric and it’s CE locator.
But even assuming that is wrong and I need Silver so events can play out in that scenario we see in game (which I ALSO need for some contrived reason), to have the Emeralds all in one spot, I should be fine. I literally just have to kill Elise and Amy after she cries, preventing the miracle that causes Sonic’s resurrection and my defeat.
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Iggy once Metal saps his speed (He’s ******).
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That is the obvious answer, I suppose. Just wanted to see in the hypothetical he got it off.
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I don't know if they mentioning calcs for Eggman is a good sign or a bad sign.
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I am surprised they used the Death Egg Robot laser beam from Frontiers, although that feat is pretty minor since those big mechs scale to Sonic.
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"FINALLY, a new feat to replace the OVA feat!"
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Definitely bad. The winner always has the least amount of calcs so they can save one for the conclusion. I can't think kf an exception
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Shame it's lower than the OVA feat but I'm not sure if the game continuity has any higher feats in tier 7 specifically. Maybe surge creating storm clouds in one of the recent idw comics but that's all that comes to mind in replacing the 200 kiloton stalactite feat.
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Iblis and Ifrit are surface wipers, Eggman used the bioenergy of the planet in Lost World and fueled a mech with it, etc.
I think High 6-A is fairly consistent. It's what he was before Tier 5-4-2
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Black Doom created a storm over Westopolis.
Also, I was hoping they would bring up the Mirror Fighters, but I didn't expect them to actually do it! That's a welcome surprise
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My cope is that this is for a feat exclusive to the minions. They do calc the eggmobile tanking the Colors blackhole and mentioning how many solar masses it has.
ShakeResounding
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Well, tbh, he seems decently researched so far but I'll wait for the full episode. FEB stuff may be way more obscure to the casual audience, but it's a commonly brought up subject in the debating sphere. If they keep it up though, then I'll be content with the upcoming Egg L
IDW being canon was expected, but I'm glad it's confirmed ever since the Cell vs Metal cast
IDW being canon was expected, but I'm glad it's confirmed ever since the Cell vs Metal cast
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Right I forgot about that. So anyone down to calc that. It's a useless feat I know but I'm kind of curious. Also I'm betting that feat would be low 7-B probably.
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They had a wind reference thrown in, which was the most pleasant to me given it's something key to Sonic's character. But yeah, I'll probably be fine with whoever wins since I'm confident both will get respect.
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The editing is so damn good holy shit
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Inb4 those are the high-ends.
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How powerful is the Hyper-go-on black hole on paper? It's pretty damn big, no?
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Well they do have a casual audience to appeal to. Also I think the low end feats for Sonic are neat to be honest even if I agree with him being tier 5 and above.
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I don't know how to calculate solar mass to regular attack potency.
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My only hope is that they don't try to tell us the high-ends aren't as high as we think.
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Isn't E= mc^2 used for black hole creation. If so we could use the db solar mass estimate convert the mass to kilograms and plug it into the formula.
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I think I've seen it be calced to 4-B before, though I can't confirm if the math was right because I suck at math.
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It's gonna be 4-B/4-A with Uni+ hax,isn't it.
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Maybe yeah.
Which is dumb, Sol Emeralds are physically moving a universe and Egg Salamander was powered by them.
Which is dumb, Sol Emeralds are physically moving a universe and Egg Salamander was powered by them.
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It's gonna be 4-B/4-A with Uni+ hax,isn't it.
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Omni man had more vs stuff in his preview than bardock and won. So maybe death battle will throw a curveball here.
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Bowser's the safer bet, but Eggman's odds.... may be in the cards.
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It's possible I guess
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