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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

Alexander said:
what about a crossover?between the two,made by sega and...whatever the company is in charge of flash
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DC would be the company in charge of Flash. I kind of doubt there'll be a crossover, but it could be fun. Though if Sonic were faster for whatever reason (I doubt it. I think at best Sonic would be treated equally as fast, or slower since he's younger and less experienced), it'd prolly just be counted as an outlier. Going from relativistic to super far into Immeasurable (Depending on the version of Flash anyway) doesn't make much sense. Then there's canonicity that would be questioned, since a crossover being made by the two creators doesn't always equate to being canon, etc.
 
LaserPrecision said:
DC would be the company in charge of Flash. I kind of doubt there'll be a crossover, but it could be fun. Though if Sonic were faster for whatever reason (I doubt it. I think at best Sonic would be treated equally as fast, or slower since he's younger and less experienced), it'd prolly just be counted as an outlier. Going from relativistic to super far into Immeasurable (Depending on the version of Flash anyway) doesn't make much sense. Then there's canonicity that would be questioned, since a crossover being made by the two creators doesn't always equate to being canon, etc.
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Let's imagine that if it happens, and that Sonic wins for having the emeralds,turning super sonic,and then he wins,then both stories are mentioned canonically after those events(flash mentioning racing a blue animal and sonic mentioning meeting his favorite hero,i don't think of any other alternative really)it will be valid?
 
Alexander said:
Let's imagine that if it happens, and that Sonic wins for having the emeralds,turning super sonic,and then he wins,then both stories are mentioned canonically after those events(flash mentioning racing a blue animal and sonic mentioning meeting his favorite hero,i don't think of any other alternative really)it will be valid?
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It'd be valid for a canon crossover, yeah. Scaling would also be fine. The only issue would be consistency. Which shouldn't be a problem for Flash.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Not sure what that's from. Though I doubt the Emeralds were scattered throughout time. Space and Time can just refer to across the Universe. It'd prolly be best to wait till the next movie.
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''they blasted through space and time itself.''
it is not across the universe,because in sonic,it will say universe,not space-time
 
Alexander said:
''they blasted through space and time itself.''
it is not across the universe,because in sonic,it will say universe,not space-time
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This isn't Game Sonic. This is Paramount Sonic. The same principles in the games don't hold true for a different company. That said, that's not really proof that it means it traveled through time. I def think it seems like the simplest interpretation, but knowing how the movie is, they're probably just going to search through space and find them scattered across the Universe like in Sonic X.
 
LaserPrecision said:
This isn't Game Sonic. This is Paramount Sonic. The same principles in the games don't hold true for a different company. That said, that's not really proof that it means it traveled through time. I def think it seems like the simplest interpretation, but knowing how the movie is, they're probably just going to search through space and find them scattered across the Universe like in Sonic X.
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not really,the movie makes clear that saying space and time is not the same has saying universe.
sonic says universe when tails travels in the universe,but when the chaos emeralds fly,the travel in space and time.
 
Alexander said:
not really,the movie makes clear that saying space and time is not the same has saying universe.
sonic says universe when tails travels in the universe,but when the chaos emeralds fly,the travel in space and time.
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This just seems like proof by example fallacy. Them using Universe to refer to the Universe (Which IS a Space-Time Continuum) doesn't mean when they say Space-Time that it doesn't mean Universe.

I will say this though, if they end up time traveling in the next movie for the Emeralds, I'd agree to it being an Immeasurable feat. If they end up just traveling to space for them, then it's clear they were just referring to it scattering across the Universe.
 
JJSliderman said:
If they were just scattered across the universe, then they wouldn’t be scattered through time, just space.
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I get that. It's just the Universe can be referred to as a Space-Time Continuum. It's not too unusual for "across space and time" to mean the Universe. I also kind of doubt the movie would be ballsy enough to have a time travel plot to find the Emeralds across the Universe. Seems too ambitious for them.
 
I think it would ultimately be funny if 900th Adventure made Archie and Mainline scaling consistent at all
 
"Hyper Amy is 6-D due to scaling to the destruction of the Chaos Force and Super Mega Man" could happen in this year, and for the sake of humor, it should happen
 
I don't actually expect any sort of in-depth cosmology stuff, if anything, from 900th Adv., but I'm excited for it regardless of anything VS.
 
I don’t need crossovers with other continuities, I need infinite universe confirmation with no “possibly” attached.
 
Can you imagine that in a shatterspace, sonic is in a dimension called ''twelve dimension''and a...dimension 12 tails says ''welcome to the twelve dimension,a dimension where infinite realities reside,in here,the laws of space-time in the dimensions below are not similar,and are inconsequential to us,like you will expect''
then there is alot of explanation on how sonic is there and he does not crush by the dimensional twisting(which is a effect caused when beings from lower dimensions,feels the existence of being in higher dimensions,which will crush them and cease to exist in any dimension)which is more or less explained in sonic constantly moving atoms that generates vibrations on the same level of dimensionality of the beings he is.
but then,there is a strange 17 dimensional being,that explains that the 12 dimension,like any other dimension,can connect to the rest of the infinite dimensions,timelines and realities of the ''shatterspace''.
yeah,to much imagination
 
Alexander said:
Can you imagine that in a shatterspace, sonic is in a dimension called ''twelve dimension''and a...dimension 12 tails says ''welcome to the twelve dimension,a dimension where infinite realities reside,in here,the laws of space-time in the dimensions below are not similar,and are inconsequential to us,like you will expect''
then there is alot of explanation on how sonic is there and he does not crush by the dimensional twisting(which is a effect caused when beings from lower dimensions,feels the existence of being in higher dimensions,which will crush them and cease to exist in any dimension)which is more or less explained in sonic constantly moving atoms that generates vibrations on the same level of dimensionality of the beings he is.
but then,there is a strange 17 dimensional being,that explains that the 12 dimension,like any other dimension,can connect to the rest of the infinite dimensions,timelines and realities of the ''shatterspace''.
yeah,to much imagination
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Sounds like a Ben 10 type statement
 
The_Fastest_Savior said:
Me when I scale Archie Sonic higher than 5D
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The way I see it it is either way above 5D or it's not and stays at 4D or has no tier at all. Considering there's no evidence of the Chaos Force being an extra/higher dimension plus the fact it's outside of space and time implies it can't be spatial or temporal. Hell I don't know where it "transcending" spacetime came from it just said it's outside of it.

I've never understood low complex multiverse level Archie considering there's no proof of the Chaos Force being some higher spatial/temporal dimension so it shouldn't be 5D as there's no higher dimensional tier.
 
ThatBusyDude said:
The way I see it it is either way above 5D or it's not and stays at 4D or has no tier at all. Considering there's no evidence of the Chaos Force being an extra/higher dimension plus the fact it's outside of space and time implies it can't be spatial or temporal. Hell I don't know where it "transcending" spacetime came from it just said it's outside of it.

I've never understood low complex multiverse level Archie considering there's no proof of the Chaos Force being some higher spatial/temporal dimension so it shouldn't be 5D as there's no higher dimensional tier.
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I heavily disagree but that's ok
 
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