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He says he harvests the pages, not the worlds.

Although, if Prima guides are used then Erazor is capable of lifting his night palace even when it contains infinite mass+a separate time flow, so arguably he could be low 2-C in base.
Where's the distinction that the pages are not worlds then?

The Book contains pages, pages contains stories and Erazor is using the Book --> pages --> stories to become more powerful
The "endless adventures" dialogue in the scan is vital, because Adventures happen in stories and the Arabian Nights contains these "worlds"
 
I think it just means crumpling the pages wouldn't affect the world. Otherwise whenever Sonic flipped through the pages when reading, people woulda been getting tossed around. Which while funny to imagine, I doubt was happening.
 
I think it just means crumpling the pages wouldn't affect the world. Otherwise whenever Sonic flipped through the pages when reading, people woulda been getting tossed around. Which while funny to imagine, I doubt was happening.
Or it just means the pages are just durable

The fact that the pages are worlds at all is absurd, they shouldn't be as light/easy to rip/break/destroy as normal pages.
When Sonic is flipping through them I doubt the worlds feel that. Magical Book moment.

I think there was a AOSTH scans where pages in that version of Sonic were weird too. Lemme find it.
 
I think it just means crumpling the pages wouldn't affect the world. Otherwise whenever Sonic flipped through the pages when reading, people woulda been getting tossed around. Which while funny to imagine, I doubt was happening.
tbf, we don't have proof of that not happening lol
 
Books are faraway lands and exotic places. There are worlds of fun in reading.
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Computers are worlds of information. Learning computers is like learning to read, in which there are worlds of fun in reading.
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Seems like stuff like pages being worlds is completely normal in Sonic ☠️
 
Or it just means the pages are just durable

The fact that the pages are worlds at all is absurd, they shouldn't be as light/easy to rip/break/destroy as normal pages.
When Sonic is flipping through them I doubt the worlds feel that. Magical Book moment.

I think there was a AOSTH scans where pages in that version of Sonic were weird too. Lemme find it.
I doubt it's durable. Like I feel there's magic protecting the pages or something that could be Tier 2. I don't think the pages itself are Tier 2 tho. And not every page is a world/story. many pages make up individual stories (Assuming it is like the real Arabian Nights which has a lot of stories, but not a story dedicated to each individual page).
 
I doubt it's durable. Like I feel there's magic protecting the pages or something that could be Tier 2. I don't think the pages itself are Tier 2 tho. And not every page is a world/story. many pages make up individual stories (Assuming it is like the real Arabian Nights which has a lot of stories, but not a story dedicated to each individual page).
Like Eitaro Toyoda agreed upon: the stories are worlds, the pages makes up those worlds so destroying all of the pages would be destroying the stories which would be destroying the worlds.

The book is just a representation of that world, otherwise Sonic and others wouldn't be able to lift it as they way the size of 1001+ universes.
 
Like Eitaro Toyoda agreed upon: the stories are worlds, the pages makes up those worlds so destroying all of the pages would be destroying the stories which would be destroying the worlds.

The book is just a representation of that world, otherwise Sonic and others wouldn't be able to lift it as they way the size of 1001+ universes.
I think you're misunderstanding what we're saying. I agree there's stories and that the Arabian Nights is its own world. I've fought for Tier 2 Arabian Nights. I was just saying that the book from the outside world wouldn't have Tier 2 durability or anything like that. I'm in agreement that it's simply a physical representation that serves as a gateway to their world. I was just saying not EVERY page is a different story. Most stories span several pages of the book (Though I've got mixed feelings about EVERY story being its own world given Sonic was able to travel to different stories through conventional means, i.e. simply walking/running to other stories that were only a few miles away from where he was).
 
I think you're misunderstanding what we're saying. I agree there's stories and that the Arabian Nights is its own world. I've fought for Tier 2 Arabian Nights. I was just saying that the book from the outside world wouldn't have Tier 2 durability or anything like that. I'm in agreement that it's simply a physical representation that serves as a gateway to their world. I was just saying not EVERY page is a different story. Most stories span several pages of the book (Though I've got mixed feelings about EVERY story being its own world given Sonic was able to travel to different stories through conventional means, i.e. simply walking/running to other stories that were only a few miles away from where he was).
Ok, before I quote the scan I was talking about.

The stories Sonic seemingly travels through normally without some portal or dimensional means, are NOT the Arabian Nights being talked about in game, necessarily
There were World Rings in the worlds Sonic traveled through, the one in Ifrit, the Water Blue ring and others I forgotten.
The rings connect the worlds together, they bind the very pages. So it made sense that Sonic was interacting with worlds normally.
 
Books are faraway lands and exotic places. There are worlds of fun in reading.
6:10-6:33


Computers are worlds of information. Learning computers is like learning to read, in which there are worlds of fun in reading.
28:46-29:10


Seems like stuff like pages being worlds is completely normal in Sonic ☠️

You might want to mention the fact that AOSTH is part of the expanded sonic universe otherwise won't get this

The official sonic 25th anniversary artbook saying that the modern, classic and boom varieties coexist here, here and here
 
I think you're misunderstanding what we're saying. I agree there's stories and that the Arabian Nights is its own world. I've fought for Tier 2 Arabian Nights. I was just saying that the book from the outside world wouldn't have Tier 2 durability or anything like that. I'm in agreement that it's simply a physical representation that serves as a gateway to their world. I was just saying not EVERY page is a different story. Most stories span several pages of the book (Though I've got mixed feelings about EVERY story being its own world given Sonic was able to travel to different stories through conventional means, i.e. simply walking/running to other stories that were only a few miles away from where he was).
I agree with that for the most part.
 
Ok, before I quote the scan I was talking about.

The stories Sonic seemingly travels through normally without some portal or dimensional means, are NOT the Arabian Nights, necessarily
There were World Rings in the worlds Sonic traveled through, the one in Ifrit, the Water Blue ring and others I forgotten.
The rings connect the worlds together, they bind the very pages. So it made sense because Sonic was interacting with worlds normally.
Someone deadass uses the worlds Sonic travels through normally to "prove" the stories aren't worlds. This is the debunk to that assertion.
 
sonic.jpg
 
The multiplier thread got me interested in looking at the spindash calc, and I’m not exactly sure what’s happening? Is it calcing how much the robot moves of its own volition based on the red line in comparison to how far the spindash goes? Because looking at the episode, the robot doesn’t move if it’s own volition, it’s pushed by the impact of Sonic’s spindash.
 
The multiplier thread got me interested in looking at the spindash calc, and I’m not exactly sure what’s happening? Is it calcing how much the robot moves of its own volition based on the red line in comparison to how far the spindash goes? Because looking at the episode, the robot doesn’t move if it’s own volition, it’s pushed by the impact of Sonic’s spindash.
It's calcing the movement they made during the time slow compared to the movement Sonic made. They wouldn't carry all of Sonic's momentum from the Spin Dash. This is kinda noticeable too, because at the moment of impact, some of them move slightly faster, but then decelerate.
 
How can you tell how much they moved if it immediately goes to time slow after they get hit?
By measuring their position at the start of time slow, and their position at the end of time slow. It's a rather simple thing to do. Just overlay images, and boom, you have their movement.
 
I dunno, maybe it could be measured how much the back robots moved instead, since I think it’s still kind of unclear whether the second robot moved cuz of pushing momentum or actual movement.
 
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