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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

Speaking of hedgehogs. Really like the sonic, silver and blaze cover for issue 64 of the comics a lot. The silver one is funny cause of what it is referencing. The Blaze and Sonic one is adorable.
 
Speaking of hedgehogs. Really like the sonic, silver and blaze cover for issue 64 of the comics a lot. The silver one is funny cause of what it is referencing. The Blaze and Sonic one is adorable.
you can make memes about it,but not using the person of the meme,but using silver.
 
I woke up to tweets of Kishimoto being memed on for wanting to beat his meat (check his likes)

The world is good and bad
 
Do we consider NIGHTS and Sonic to share a cosmology?
NiGHTS is stated to be a Nightmaren and Nightopian in the official Sonic Riders website


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Which would imply NiGHTS in Sonic is the same NiGHTS from NiGHTS Into Dreams so I would say yes, I'm not so sure about everyone else though.
 
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Is this noteworthy?

32:17 - I have been curious as to what happened at the end of Sonic Generations where all of spacetime, dimensions and reality was restored, was that because of the chaos emeralds? Tails mentioned something about using the chaos emeralds to restore everything so I was curious. (Ian said yes and that it restored everything back to normal after Time was busted out of Time Eater)
 
I guess it’s notable in the sense that even if Time Eater’s total destruction level is overtime, Sonic scales to the full amount of said destruction.
 
I guess it’s notable in the sense that even if Time Eater’s total destruction level is overtime, Sonic scales to the full amount of said destruction.
What about this?

Hey again Ian: are you a lore manager? I think I asked you this before and there’s been many discussions in the Sonic community about it.

Ian Flynn says yes but claims he has no influence on canon despite his job description saying he shapes it? I'm confused.

For the sources there's these statements from Katie





Then there's this

https://web.archive.org/web/2022111...anager-lore-at-sega-of-america-inc-3348626228

The above says: Reporting to the Director of Lore and Creative Strategy, the Sonic Team is seeking an Associate Manager, Lore to support the growing needs of our lore team. With both project management and creative duties, you will be immersed in the organizing and shaping of Sonic lore, canon, characters, and universes, helping to bring consistency, connectivity, and creativity to all things Sonic across various forms of media including games, animation, comics, and more. Codifying the current status while planning for the future, you will help the lore team stay organized, prioritized, and galvanized, all while facilitating transparency and communication across the organization.

What is your view on this?
 
What about this?

Hey again Ian: are you a lore manager? I think I asked you this before and there’s been many discussions in the Sonic community about it.

Ian Flynn says yes but claims he has no influence on canon despite his job description saying he shapes it? I'm confused.
It was explained in the video itself. He isn't the only guy pulling strings or anything like that, it's a group work with many people making many decisions with him maybe doing or not something in regards to the multiple points of what they do (Like in the Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog, he wasn't mentioned in the lore group in the credits, he could do that work, but there are many people in the group that could do that)

basically, he's just one piece in the chessboard.
 
It was explained in the video itself. He isn't the only guy pulling strings or anything like that, it's a group work with many people making many decisions with him maybe doing or not something in regards to the multiple points of what they do (Like in the Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog, he wasn't mentioned in the lore group in the credits, he could do that work, but there are many people in the group that could do that)

basically, he's just one piece in the chessboard.
I understand now but it would've been better if he said that instead of saying something that's contradictory to his job description.

That's good, he claimed Sonic Labyrinth wasn't canon even though it was mentioned by Sonic in that Japanese Sonic channel video.
 
Ian Flynn has said that he thinks it's reasonable to think that the different variations of Sonic (the comics, cartoons, movies and things like that) exist in the game multiverse if Tails is right about the multiverse right here 28:04. I doubt Game is gonna be scaled to Archie in this wiki but what do you guys think of the idea that Ian is on board with the two Sonic's being in the same multiverse?
 
I think, due to Archie "oh no, our table"ing his multiverse, Mainline and Archie would need to be in different multiverses, instead of two universes inside of the same multiverse. They could still interact, though.
 
This whole multiverse angle is clearly being set up for a story in the future, maybe the results will be interesting.
Oh then what about this, do you guys think this is a good scale?

2:01:21 - Following up on the Book question are the stories in the book worlds each their own world? Maekawa and Toyoda liked & agreed with that opinion. (Answer: Ian agrees as he’s not going to argue with Eitaro Toyoda)

For context it was asked on twitter to Eitaro Toyoda if the stories in the storybook worlds were each their own world (universe in this sense I guess?)

Eitaro Toyoda agrees with the thought that the stories in the Arabian Nights are independent worlds. Here and here

For an extra Eitaro Toyoda states Sonic’s world has a scale and potential similar to the Arabian Nights.





So if we took the statement for the high end interpretation would destroying Sonic's world or the Arabian nights be considered a Tier 2 feat? Or should we just ignore this?
 
Idk, Ian said that Erazor being able to destroy the book world doesn’t necessarily mean he could inflict the same damage on the real world.
 
Idk, Ian said that Erazor being able to destroy the book world doesn’t necessarily mean he could inflict the same damage on the real world.
He said that was his opinion, not would actually what would happen I would take it with a grain of salt considering Shahra was begging Sonic to help her defeat Erazor Djiin and implied he would body his world too

 
Ian's comment about Erazor not being able to affect the real world is dumb because Erazor literally says himself after he's done overpowering the Arabian Nights he'll go for Sonic's world next. That is the reason why Sonic was even called to stop him. If Erazor was limited to his book he wouldn't be a threat to Sonic or anyone outside.
 
Ian's comment about Erazor stop being able to affect the real world is dumb because Erazor literally says himself after he's done overpowering the Arabian Nights he'll go for Sonic's world next. That is the reason why Sonic was even called to stop him. If Erazor was limited to his book he wouldn't be a threat to Sonic or anyone outside.
actually,why is shayra there already debunks that the damage could not be beyond the world of the book
 
Ian's comment about Erazor not being able to affect the real world is dumb because Erazor literally says himself after he's done overpowering the Arabian Nights he'll go for Sonic's world next. That is the reason why Sonic was even called to stop him. If Erazor was limited to his book he wouldn't be a threat to Sonic or anyone outside.
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I guess it falls in line with the theory Erazor can’t physically destroy a universe directly, because he’s doing it via chain reaction due to text manipulation. So he wouldn’t be Universe level after absorbing the words only.
 
I guess it falls in line with the theory Erazor can’t physically destroy a universe directly, because he’s doing it via chain reaction due to text manipulation. So he wouldn’t be Universe level after absorbing the words only.
This is weird because Erazor absorbs the worlds he destroys, so he has the power of one regardless of how he gets to destroy a single world.

Plus that's just a theory.
 
I guess it falls in line with the theory Erazor can’t physically destroy a universe directly, because he’s doing it via chain reaction due to text manipulation. So he wouldn’t be Universe level after absorbing the words only.
I still don't get how that's only text manip that's pretty much affecting the plot and reality of the world also Ifrit was stated to be able to destroy the Arabian nights directly (which we've established is probably a Tier 2 construct due to Eitaro Toyoda's implications)
 
I still don't get how that's only text manip that's pretty much affecting the plot and reality of the world also Ifrit was stated to be able to destroy the Arabian nights directly (which we've established is probably a Tier 2 construct due to Eitaro Toyoda's implications)
Ifrit Golem could do it via burning the book’s pages, which still falls in line with text manipulation.
 
This is weird because Erazor absorbs the worlds he destroys, so he has the power of one regardless of how he gets to destroy a single world.

Plus that's just a theory.
I don’t think it’s ever said Erazor absorbs the space of the worlds, he just absorbs words and gains power.
 
He says he harvests the pages, not the worlds.

Although, if Prima guides are used then Erazor is capable of lifting his night palace even when it contains infinite mass+a separate time flow, so arguably he could be low 2-C in base.
 
I don’t think it’s ever said Erazor absorbs the space of the worlds, he just absorbs words and gains power.
The words are stated to make up the Arabian nights world


I think it would be similar to destroying the physical universe by destroying all matter, you would still scale to it.

The implication seems to be that destroying the world = destroying the pages and destroying the pages = destroying the world.
 
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