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not listed there,and sonic will probably get immeasurable speed somewhat(maybe)All Forces Barry is immeasurable
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not listed there,and sonic will probably get immeasurable speed somewhat(maybe)All Forces Barry is immeasurable
people is lazy and too lazynot listed there,and sonic will probably get immeasurable speed somewhat(maybe)
okpeople is lazy and too lazy
why?Wait you guys have Movie Sonic above Light?
I thought you didn't
Idk, where's the calc or feat for Movie Sonic being faster than light?why?
yesIdk, where's the calc or feat for Movie Sonic being faster than light?
wait what?no i mean in one time he travel in time and almost make a paradox where he almost kills himselfAcausality Negation duh
I knowwait what?no i mean in one time he travel in time and almost make a paradox where he almost kills himself
then why still acausality?I know
still does not make sense for himAcausality Negation duh
CE?Debatably, stuff like Null Space, Lair of the Time Eater, Night Palace, and Cyberspace have statements that place their size at endless or countless or infinite amounts of space, which with the context of CE having infinite power could mean they’re infinite sized spaces for some of them.
The Lair of the Time Eater is infinite?Debatably, stuff like Null Space, Lair of the Time Eater, Night Palace, and Cyberspace have statements that place their size at endless or countless or infinite amounts of space, which with the context of CE having infinite power could mean they’re infinite sized spaces for some of them.
The Sonic "Universe" is filled with other universesyeah.
Night palace's weird part of the stage is legitimately called an astral plane, according to wikipedia, an average astral plane is "hundreds of times" larger than our universe.Debatably, stuff like Null Space, Lair of the Time Eater, Night Palace, and Cyberspace have statements that place their size at endless or countless or infinite amounts of space, which with the context of CE having infinite power could mean they’re infinite sized spaces for some of them.
wait,what?The Sonic "Universe" is filled with other universes
there is a infinite distance between night palace and the astral planeNight palace's weird part of the stage is legitimately called an astral plane, according to wikipedia, an average astral plane is "hundreds of times" larger than our universe.
I am not joking:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_plane
" Paramahansa Yogananda wrote in Autobiography of a Yogi, "The astral universe . . . is hundreds of times larger than the material universe . . .[with] many astral planets, teeming with astral beings." (p.416) "
Given that the place has Stars in and has metaphysical stuff... not that surprising.
Honestly maybe just axe the varies rating and keep the Ruby at a flat Low 2-C, and say the base form characters fighting it is an outlier (or maybe add consistency to base Sonic beating Perfect Chaos).
whyAll this talk of Perfect Chaos reminds me that I gotta downgrade the dude.
He doesn't do anything to warrant the current rating besides get the shit beat out of him both times he appears in the series. It's like how we scale Super Mecha Sonic and Super Neo to Super's when we shouldn't.
ahHe doesn't do anything to warrant the current rating besides get the shit beat out of him both times he appears in the series. It's like how we scale Super Mecha Sonic and Super Neo to Super's when we shouldn't.
Just wondering, does the true Phantom Ruby have an actual mechanic that allows its power to vary? Because as far as I can tell, the sole reason for the varies rating on its profile is to account for base Sonic defeating the Death Egg Robot and Classic Sonic defeating Metal Sonic Kai/Titanic Monarch boss, even though logically the former robot should compare to Phantom King by virtue of Eggman over clocking the Ruby’s power.
Honestly maybe just axe the varies rating and keep the Ruby at a flat Low 2-C, and say the base form characters fighting it is an outlier (or maybe add consistency to base Sonic beating Perfect Chaos).
He absorbed half the power of the Chaos Emeralds and achieved a super state that fought with another super state, something Emerl could not achieve despite also absorbing the Emeralds, so he should scale to super state level stuff.He doesn't do anything to warrant the current rating besides get the shit beat out of him both times he appears in the series. It's like how we scale Super Mecha Sonic and Super Neo to Super's when we shouldn't.
That's the reasoning he had before he was upgraded and they deemed it not enough to keep him below a Super State. I'm personally neutral on the matter so ehHe doesn't do anything to warrant the current rating besides get the shit beat out of him both times he appears in the series
He didnt absorb half the power. He absorbed the negative energy, or whatever is not deemed the "true power" of the Emeralds which is what Sonic can tap into. Chaos also didnt achieve a Super state. Not a traditional one anyway. Seeing as Base Sonic can hurt him which shouldn't be possible if Super Forms are invulnerable as we treat them. It's A transformation, yeah, but not a Super one. And yes, he did right a Super state, and couldn't hurt him even a little. He was utterly demolished by a Super Sonic who was holding back as Sonic didnt want to kill Chaos or seal him back. Just free him of his anguish.He absorbed half the power of the Chaos Emeralds and achieved a super state that fought with another super state, something Emerl could not achieve despite also absorbing the Emeralds, so he should scale to super state level stuff.
Honestly I consider it more of a support for base Sonic being strong as opposed to a nerf to Perfect.
then why don't simply making a argument about sonic being above perfect chaos and aka super forms from adventure and not perfect chaos being weaker than base sonic?I view it as an impressive growth feat for Sonic too. But I never bought into Perfect Chaos being a Super state threat. Just far above any base character at the time.
When did I argue Perfect Chais was weaker than Base when in the comment you replied to I explicitly state Perfect Chaos >>> Base Sonicthen why don't simply making a argument about sonic being above perfect chaos and aka super forms from adventure and not perfect chaos being weaker than base sonic?