Sonic fights Death himself

[Genericstickman]

since Archie Sonic vs Dracula would probably be a passive stomp I decided to put him up against the second most haxed non-Dark Lord in the series

Low 2-C versions used

both have prep time

speed is you know

Blue Blur:5

Skeleton Dude:3

McQueen:7

 

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[Stillwinston]

Oh nice, time to see how Archie Sonic does vs Castlevania.

Right so I'm guessing Sword of Acorns is restricted, can Death cope with Sonic's Fate Manip?

 

[Genericstickman]

Probably not

 

[Stillwinston]

Well I no next to nothing about Archie Sonic aside from that meme, Death of course sports his own but I'm not sure if it stacks up or not. Can Sonic do anything about Mid Godly regen?

 

[Genericstickman]

Probably not

 

[Stillwinston]

Well chalk me down for Inconclusive, Death can't prevent "Lol Fate Manip." but if Sonic can't deal with the Regen then its seems like Incon for me.

 

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[Thatsafloridathing]

Inconclusive FRA

 

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[Oliver_de_jesus]

Inconclusive FRA

 

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[ElixirBlue]

Inconclusive FRA

 

[TheSpeedster96]

So what is stopping Death from just incapping through AP or some of his abilities? Becaue from what I've seen in multiple threads, his fate hax doesn't stop incap. There's also Sonic not being able to negate his regen.

 

[ElixirBlue]

What's Death's incap?

 

[TheSpeedster96]

AP advantage, Mind, Willpower, and Soul Manipulation are ways he could incap. Until I see Sonic's resistance potency to Mind and Soul Manipulation, then Death can freely use them.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Sonic resist Soul manipulation and Mindhax and has an breakable will. Sonic also resist magic.

 

[TheSpeedster96]

To what degree? Death's is superior to people who's Soul and Mind Manip bypasses resistances to both, and Death's Willpower Manip weakens the faith of Humanity on a planetary scale.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Because everything Sonic has was bumped up to Low 2-C resistance, beyond what humanity has taken.

 

[HST_Master]

Because everything Sonic has was bumped up to Low 2-C resistance, beyond what humanity has taken.

Thats not how hax works, it doesn't scale to your ap and dura. His resistances are the exact same when he was tier 4.

 

[TheSpeedster96]

His AP was bumped to low 2-C, not his resistances. You need to prove that all of them are on a low 2-C scale, and I said his Willpower Manip weakens Humanity's faith on a planetary scale. Both his Soul and Mind manip scale above people who can affect others with those hax, and said characters resist the Castle's effects, which is on a 4D scale. So even if his resistances were on a Low 2-C scale, Death would still bypass.

 

[ElixirBlue]

• He resisted Magic from a sorcerer who's magic was used to create and expand a pocket dimension to the size of universe, giving the magic Low 2-C status.

• He resisted MindHax from another being superior to the sorcerer who used mindhax on his friends and Sonic but didn't work on Sonic. And another mindhax that effected a 2-A being.

• And he resisted Soul hax from multiversal + level of reality warping.

 

[TheSpeedster96]

Magic is literally a broad term for hax, all that gives is unspecified resistance to magic, and I already told you Death's abilities bypass 4D hax resistance.

>Mind haxing a 2-A being doesn't mean anything unless you prove that character's resistance already.

>Show said Reality Warping working on a multiversal+ scale and affecting souls.

 

[HST_Master]

ÔÇó That's again AP.

ÔÇó Cal and Al both were only accepted to have baseline mindhax for effecting Sonic and Tails. Dr Fintiveus' Hex is also baseline since Knuckles was affected while trying to access the Master Emerald. I should know, I'm the one who made the thread for it.

ÔÇó His resistance to Soul Manip comes from the Mecha Madness fiasco.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

• And he resisted Soul hax from multiversal + level of reality warping.

This was something he did in his Super Form, not his Base Form. Enerjak literally affected him with soul hax in the Dark Mobius reality with the prelates, so I'm not sure what else you're scaling a resistance off of.

Also, siding with Death for some of the reasons presented above. At worst, this is an incon because Sonic has no good way of putting Death down.

 

[ElixirBlue]

This was something he did in his Super Form, not his Base Form. Enerjak literally affected him with soul hax in the Dark Mobius reality with the prelates, so I'm not sure what else you're scaling a resistance off of.

Wrong. That Sonic was not Prime multiverse Sonic. Prime multiverse Sonic is the only one with these abilities, as Scourge, Evil Sonic from another universe, does not have these haxes.

 

[ElixirBlue]

>Show said Reality Warping working on a multiversal+ scale and affecting souls.

Showed having his soul and FateHax being intended to be rewritten on a universal scale, later shown that same reality warping could effect Megaman's and Sonic's at the same time. But.. you know... it didn't work.


SGW effected Sonic and Megaman's infinite multiverse, with certain Sonic's souls not being affected (the game characters).

 

[HST_Master]

....But they were affected. Post Genesis Reality is the result of them being affected, not to mention he was in his Super State. Eggman made Sonic screw up Chaos Control and Post Genesis was the result. Sonic himself didn't even get his memories back until he touched Nicole, who had excess energy. And not to mention Genesis Sonic was affected. He had no idea who Sally and co. were until he was about to RW the world back to normal and even moreso, that wasn't universal. That was Planetary.


Also we don't scale other resistances from Reality Warping. You can resist Reality Warp without resisting Soul Manipulation and vice versa.

 

[ElixirBlue]

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[HST_Master]

https://***************.to/Comic/Sonic-The-Hedgehog/Issue-252?id=20232

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[ElixirBlue]

What does realities mean to you? Cause Dio, a space robot, was effected by the Genesis wave, despite being light years away from the planet. Oh, and the Genesis wave without being Super is 4D.

 

[ElixirBlue]

https://***************.to/Comic/Sonic-The-Hedgehog/Issue-252?id=20232

Yeah, I read it. Tails only remember after touching Nicole. Sonic never needed to. The "kid" means Megaman.

 

[HST_Master]

Yeah, I read it. Tails only remember after touching Nicole. Sonic never needed to.

Because of the excess energy. Which Sonic and Naugus also had. Which also faded, as even Sonic clearly remembers the new reality and is the reason they don't say anything about it later on.

What does realities mean to you? Cause Dio, a space robot, was effected by the Genesis wave, despite being light years away from the planet. Oh, and the Genesis wave without being Super is 4D.

I'm talking about the Genesis Wave, that Eggman performed with one Emerald. It's planetary. The Super Genesis Wave is what affected Sonic and Mega Man's Worlds. And dude Reality Warping in general is 4-D...

Also Pre Genesis Sonic and Post Genesis Sonic don't share abilities. Anything Post Gen gets deals with Post Gen only amd vice versa.