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I don't think it's ever been stated that Vegeta < Goku.DatBoyNorbit said:I say Vegeta because honestly throughout super it has been sated repeatedly that Vegeta is Goku's superior. In fact if you think back through the arcs the only reason Goku got stronger than Vegeta was the KK amp
Vegeta's BSSB is >= Goku's SSBKK because like i said before at the start through the end of the ToP Vegeta was stronger untill Goku of course used KK to close gaps and what not
Also you guys dont want to hear it but KK does strain his body and drains Ki faster, just because you don't say it doesnt mean its not true or valid anymore.
Just because goku's was fighting Jiren alone while Vegeta fought Toppo doesnt mean a thing. Clearly Jiren doesnt have infinte Ki, so when Vegeta left to fight Toppo he supressed himself because he no longer needed the amount of energy he was using to fight Goku alone
This is clear Goku wank...
That's not a very good reason.
I acknowledge that Kaioken does indeed still drain his body.
No, Goku just struggled much more.
I think we have a rule against saying that people are wanking. Please don't do that.