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Son Goku vs. Ness

Hes smart enough, and that the description they gave the move. Meaning that there is limit to the hypnososis.
 
Ness being able to hypnotize goku is a no limit falacy. I have stated the limit which dont seem to be much at all.
 
I mean, Ness isn't just limited to Hypnosis y'know. He still has things like paralysis, PK flash which blinds and causes uncontrollable crying, his barriers and attack reflection and Lifeups.
 
No you haven't, you stated that limit that Goku does not have.

If Ness haxes people with resistance to it, someone with no resistance is screwed
 
Scarletmoon56 said:
I mean, Ness isn't just limited to Hypnosis y'know. He still has things like paralysis, PK flash which blinds and causes uncontrollable crying, his barriers and attack reflection and Lifeups.
The only thing that would allow him to win is hypnosis and the other attacks take time. Goku wouldnt get one shotted by any of those but ness would get one shotted by AOE
 
No he's not. Being smart in martial arts is not enough to beat a Matematical Genius in intelligence. Much less a robot.

And Hypnosis is not all that Ness has. There's also Paralysis, and PK Flash, wich can make Goku cry, making him unable to land hits on Ness, Making him feel weird, so he can't think rationaly anymore, or even kill him instantly with Death Manipulation, and considering that of all the option PK Flash gives, this one is the most likely to come out, he would lose even faster.
 
Pk flash has to hit, paralysis does too if i recall. His barriers aint stopping Goku in the slightest.

And lifeup wont help him when he's dead since itll take goku a single attack to make that happen.
 
Gargoyle One said:
No you haven't, you stated that limit that Goku does not have.
If Ness haxes people with resistance to it, someone with no resistance is screwed

The guide says Hypnosis only works depending on how powerful they are
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
When it says depending on power level, it's reffering to hypnosis' power ie omega, beta, etc not the opponent's.

Okay that make sense but still says they can wake up and its advoidable.
 
It's not avoidable if i recall, its more along the lines of the smarter you are the more likely you can avoid getting put to sleep via resistance rather than just dodging it or something akin to that.
 

Okay that make sense but still says they can wake up and its advoidable.

Only through power level which Goku does not have and Ness has moves that one shot
 
You're right, unfortunately if Ness leads with hypnosis he'll win, he'll take goku out before he can do anything.

If he doesnt goku wins yeah but if he does to Hypn he wins before goku does anything.
 
Trndo said:
Yeah but if does that it will instantly kill ness
That's a possibility, yes.

But again, Ness can attack faster. And he can resurrect, so if he's killed, he can come back and now attack for good.
 
I would imagine an invisble ki blast from the eyes is just as fast as hypnosis, but one kills and ones sleeps.
 
Chrisras said:
Trndo said:
Yeah but if does that it will instantly kill ness
That's a possibility, yes.
But again, Ness can attack faster. And he can resurrect, so if he's killed, he can come back and now attack for good.

I would imagine bloodlusted would anihilate him with invisble ki eye blast but if not that would happen
 
Trndo ya dont understand, Ness' hypnosis is faster, it takes a thought.

Goku still has to perform those actions, hence why if Ness leads with something else he's done for, Goku can do anything and ohko.
 
Theres nothing that implies that it moves faster. And theres nothing that implies its only a thought.
 
Ness page says that "his spirit will reunite with his original body even after being destroyed, but only one time". If he can't do that, someone please take that off the page.
 
Trndo said:
Theres nothing that implies that it moves faster. And theres nothing that implies its only a thought.
Being that you had to look up what the hypnosis was....How do you know that nothing implies it?
 
Gargoyle One said:
Trndo said:
Theres nothing that implies that it moves faster. And theres nothing that implies its only a thought.
Being that you had to look up what the hypnosis was....How do you know that nothing implies it?
Because nothing does
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Goku isn't smart enough, he'd be effected and yes, Pk flash isn't always insta death, it's random.
Another Question if Pk flash fail goku will wake up? and ness can kill bosses with Pk flash?
 
Maybe he will, likeva 50/50 there, and yes and no, it works on some bosses but others it doesn't. And before you say then it wont work on goku, that just means they resists it but even then, its only roughly a 10% for it to work on goku anyway.
 
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