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This is basically a compilation of stuff that I've been meaning to publish for a while but I've been super busy with school, work and also lazy :3.. I have some rendering stuff, the Two Blue Vortex Boruto's profile, and Boruto speed revisions that are also being worked on (with help of the Akatsuki of course) but I want to get this out of the way before I finish that so without further ado:


Speed

Naruto (II)

Naruto's Six Paths key is... very much lacking. One thing you'll notice is that Naruto reaches FTL+ with Empowerment. That's because he blitzes Kaguya and the value for FTL is right on the cusp of FTL+, so upscaling should be acceptable:

"FTL (Clashed with Sasuke) (Chapter 694/695), higher with Six Paths Sage Mode (Intercepted Pre-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Truth-Seeking Orb. Evaded Madara's Limbo and caught Madara with his senjutsu-enhanced lava-style Rasenshuriken) (Chapter 672/673), even higher with Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode (Traded blows with Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Limbo clones with his own Shadow clones and prior to being overpowered, Naruto using his chakra arms was briefly able to clash against Kaguya's Yasogami Kuugeki. Sidestepped Kaguya's attempt to grab him, with both Black Zetsu and Kaguya commenting on his reflexes) (Chapter 676/680/683), FTL+ with Empowerment (Blitzed Kaguya after being enraged by Black Zetsu's comment on Obito) (Chapter 687)"


Sasuke (II)

Sasuke's Six Paths key is better, but it can be expanded upon. One thing I removed is his justification with Chidori and added it to his regular speed. The reason I did this was because the lethality and speed of the Chidori rely on the thrusting. We see that when he uses Chidori Katana Spear (not Katana, which I'll explain in the AP section), he doesn't need to thrust his hands like he does with a normal Chidori, so it's just his base speed that had him quickly catch up to Madara and cut him in half. We also see later on when Madara finally gets his second eye, Naruto is able to reach Sakura and Madara within the same time as Sasuke does with the Spear, so it doesn't seem to have that same speed amp that the normal Chidori has. He does blitz Naruto when they fight at the end so I added that as a justification instead:

"FTL (Completely evaded Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Yin Release Lightning Dispatch with Amenotejikara and quickly caught up to Madara and bisected him with Chidori Eisō, with Madara noting him as fast. Erected a partially formed Susanoo to defend against Kaguya's Togebari. Kept up with Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto) (Chapter 674/680/695/696), higher with Chidori (Blitzed Naruto and his clones) (Chapter 697), even higher with Six Paths Susano'o (Easily reacted to and blocked attacks from Naruto's Kurama Avatar clones) (Chapter 696)"


Naruto (Blank Period)

Naruto's Blank Period key's base justification is outdated. Also has mention of the infamous photon beams he dodged while sickly as Hokage. It should be scrapped and changed. The (head) Autonomous Puppets are able to react to Naruto's attacks so that's why they're here:

"FTL (Should at least be as fast as his previous self. Fought off Toneri's Autonomous Puppets), higher with Kurama Sage Mode (Should faster than before. Able to react to Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion)"


Sasuke (Blank Period)

Sasuke's Blank Period key should be FTL not FTL+:

"FTL (Faster than his previous self), higher with Chidori"


Orochimaru

Right now, we have Post-Resurrection Orochimaru scaling to Relativistic because he "Moved FTE to base Naruto who is this fast"

Problems with this rating:


Not only is Naruto in this novel affected by the same illness that affected Hagoromo, which makes him incredibly weak, dying and unable to manipulate chakra, but also we are unable to calc Naruto dodging the beams in the novel. We have no idea how far he was away from the beams and there are other factors at play that are currently unknown so it logically makes no sense to slap a Rel rating on Orochimaru (Also Orochimaru should really get a "New Era" key, more on that later):

Due to this, he should drop down to Massively Hypersonic+. A new justification can be "Same as before. Traded blows with Victor (Episode 175)". This would obviously downgrade Victor and Sage Transformation Mitsuki to Massively Hypersonic+ due to scaling to Orochimaru.

AP

Sasuke (II)
So, I have a few gripes with Sasuke's rating.

Firstly, not a fan of his Ninjutsu justification or rating. He doesn't harm Naruto nor does he press him. He doesn't press Naruto with Fireball Jutsu at all, he blocks it quite well. When tagged by Chidori, Naruto does yelp, but he takes virtually 0 damage. He has no bruises on his body afterwards and we see lightning come off his body, suggesting that the lightning effects are what he's reacting to in the scan. Of course one could argue that he regenerated it, but I doubt it considering even within the scan where he gets tagged, there is no bruise or injury to be seen.

Secondly, the Jutsu Sasuke uses to cut Madara isn't the Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana, but rather the Chidori Eisō. He doesn't use his sword when he cuts Madara, when he does use his sword, you're able to see it

Now that I've established that his Ninjutsu justification shouldn't direct to anything regarding KS6PM Naruto, what should his justification be? At the very least, his Chidori should be Small Planet level for harming Madara, and his Chidori Spear should scale higher for bisecting him. Sasuke has no other feats with his other Ninjutsu, his fireball gets blocked easily by Naruto, he never tries anything else but his Raiton against Madara. So we have no reason to scale his other Ninjutsu to that level (We do the same with kids from the New Era, as their AP sections are updated due to the UES CRT, for example characters like Sarada and Mitsuki have keys where specific chakra natures scale above the rest, specifically Raiton):

"At least Island level, likely Moon level+ physically (Much stronger due to acquiring Six Paths Chakra, likely half as strong as Ghost Hagaromo due to inheriting half of his power), higher with Ninjutsu (Forced Naruto to enter Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode and block his Fireball Jutsu) (Chapter 696), Small Planet level with Chidori (Harmed Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara alongside Naruto. Sent Naruto flying and made him grimace in pain) (Chapter 674/696), higher with Kusanagi no Tsurugi: Chidori Katana (Bisected Madara) (Chapter 674). (And then the rest follows)"

Sasuke (Blank Period)

Since Sasuke's Blank Period key pretty much the same as Part 2 but higher, his profile is also affected by this:

"Moon level, likely Moon level+ (Sasuke is Kakashi's strongest student, which would make him stronger than Naruto as seen in The Last), Small Planet level with Chidori (Should at least be as strong as the Chidori of his teenage self), higher with Kusanagi no Tsurugi: Chidori Katana (This jutsu is superior to Sasuke's normal Chidori as displayed with his teen self) (And then the rest follows)"


Orochimaru

As I said before, Orochimaru needs a new key for the New Era. He has feats so it makes no sense to bunch it up with his War key.

AP, Dura, SS: Island level (Traded blows with Victor) (Episode 175) (Scales to 34.4 Gigatons)


Shino

Lol kind of random I know, but I disagree with Shino's Insect AP ratings with his Insect Jutsu because they act more like dura neg. They function by absorbing chakra and his stronger variant of bugs when they enter your body and absorb chakra, they grow inside until they completely eat you from the inside out. So his rating would be something like:

"City Block level physically (Easily blocked an attack from Zaku and later knocked him out[42]) | At least City Block level physically (Should be far stronger than he was during Part I) | At least City Block level physically (Should be far stronger than he was in Part II)"



Mitsuki

Mitsuki's Town level ratings with Raiton and Sage Mode were scaling to Shino. If Shino loses his Town level rating, then so does Mitsuki. Shino and Mitsuki scale to the same value, but Shino obviously scales higher in the Academy Era, so Mitsuki still gets that higher for beating him in Sage Mode. The novel adaptation of the first arc mentions how Mitsuki was able to harm Shino because Mitsuki took advantage of the bugs that were being expelled from his body allowing his Snake Lightning to enter his inside, so his Hebi Ikazuchi wouldn't scale anyway. I also scaled his Sage Mode above Boruto's Boruto Stream on his second key, and Boruto's Rasengan on his third. Both times they're eluded to be too dangerous/risky/extreme to use, so they should be above Boruto's AP.

Now this might be a crazy upgrade but bear with me. I believe Mitsuki's Sage Transformation should scale above Orochimaru. And here's why:
In the one-shot, when Mitsuki, Suigetsu and Orochimaru are discussing why they have to go fight Log, Orochimaru states that he's one of the legendary Sannin, so he's no ordinary shinobi. Mitsuki then asks why is he coming along since he's so weak, which Orochimaru replies, "You're underestimating yourself. I already told you... you're special. You're my child. I am quite fond of you. You just don't happen to remember right now. We're doing this for our familial relationship too." Later we see Orochimaru and Log duke it out and we see that they're relative (The anime makes this even more clear). Right before Orochimaru gets paralyzed by Log's jutsu, Orochimaru tells Mitsuki that he has "Sage Power", to which Log replies, "Yeah, he's the one I really need to watch. I had alot of difficulty with him last time." After Orochimaru comes back from stealing the scroll from Log, he outright tells Mitsuki, "You bear within you more power than I. Oh, how eagerly I awaited your existence!" As we all know later when he eventually uses Sage Transformation, he blitzes the **** out of both Orochimaru and Log. I think this is enough evidence to put Mitsuki's Sage Transformation above Orochimaru, aka Island level:

"At least City-Block level (Nearly defeated Iwabe in a one-on-one. Pinned Sumire and nearly finished her off. Assisted Boruto against Shizuma), higher with Sage Mode (Forced Shino to take him a bit more seriously), Island level with Sage Transformation (34.4 Gigs) (Orochimaru stated that Mitsuki bears more power within himself than he does, and Log after fighting and paralyzing Orochimaru stated that he had a lot of difficulty with him the last time they fought) (Naruto Gaiden: The Road Illuminated by The Full Moon) | At least City-Block level (Stronger than before. Shinki told Yodo and Araya to watch out for Mitsuki) (Episode 58), Multi-City Block level+ with Sage Mode (Orochimaru had told him not to use his Sage power because it is too dangerous, so it should scale above Boruto), Island level with Sage Transformation (34.4 Gigs) (Same as before) | At least City-Block level (Same as before), higher with Hebi Ikazuchi (One-shot Boruto), Island level with Sage Mode (4.3 Gigs) (Orochimaru discouraged Mitsuki from using his Sage power because the power was considered too dangerous and extreme. Even while holding back, his power impressed Ku, which should put him above the likes of Boruto), Island level with Sage Transformation (Same as before. Attacked Deepa with Senpō: Orochi Ikazuchi, although it did no damage, he performed better than his other teammates) | Island level (Damaged Boro with a kick), far higher with Sage Transformation"

Ku


Ku would scale to Island level with Doton for cutting SM Mitsuki's arm. He also scales to Onoki with Jinton. All the same value so it's consistent

"Possibly Town level (Clashed with Akatsuchi and sent him crashing into a pillar) | Possibly Town level, likely far higher (Far stronger than before. Easily handled Boruto, Sarada and Mitsuki without much effort), Island level with Doton: Gōremu no Jutsu (Cut off Sage Mode Mitsuki's arm) and Jinton (Clashed with Onoki's Jinton before ultimately losing) (Episode 91)"
Some of the wording might be wonky so if there's anything that stands out, let me know.
 
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Yeah you can upscale if the value is close enough, I think the maximum is 1.5x? I don't recall where it is in the rules tbh so if someone can find that for me I'd appreciate it.
Kaguya is damn near baseline FTL+ and she got blitzed. And yeah it’s typically allowed
shinobi can amp their speeds by pouring in more chakra than usual why not just list it as upto FTL+ with top speeds, higher with empowerment

Also I found the upscaling rights only for ap, havent found anything for speed as it does not have + modifier
 
The only issue i have is if sasuke is not physically small planet level then his arm should have been fractured when naruto clashed with him
 
This is basically a compilation of stuff that I've been meaning to publish for a while but I've been super busy with school, work and also lazy :3.. I have some rendering stuff, the Two Blue Vortex Boruto's profile, and Boruto speed revisions that are also being worked on (with help of the Akatsuki of course) but I want to get this out of the way before I finish that so without further ado:
Great CRT overall, but I have a few minor gripes/nitpicks.
Speed

Naruto (II)

Naruto's Six Paths key is... very much lacking. One thing you'll notice is that Naruto reaches FTL+ with Empowerment. That's because he blitzes Kaguya and the value for FTL is right on the cusp of FTL+, so upscaling should be acceptable:

"FTL (Clashed with Sasuke) (Chapter 694/695), higher with Six Paths Sage Mode (Intercepted Pre-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Truth-Seeking Orb. Evaded Madara's Limbo and caught Madara with his senjutsu-enhanced lava-style Rasenshuriken) (Chapter 672/673), even higher with Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode (Traded blows with Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Limbo clones with his own Shadow clones and prior to being overpowered, Naruto using his chakra arms was briefly able to clash against Kaguya's Yasogami Kuugeki. Sidestepped Kaguya's attempt to grab him, with both Black Zetsu and Kaguya commenting on his reflexes) (Chapter 676/680/683), FTL+ with Empowerment (Blitzed Kaguya after being enraged by Black Zetsu's comment on Obito) (Chapter 687)"
This looks good, definitely much better than what's currently there.
It's just, I don't know. It feels weird there being all of these "higher" and "even higher" scaling chains when base Naruto can match someone who scales to his "even higher" rating. I dunno if I'm making sense here lol. I get that these forms should offer speed amps, but the feats are a bit off. They make it seem like all these guys are pretty relative. I guess that could still work with negligible amps, but eh. It's a bit weird lol. Sorry if this was a bit rant-y. I'm not sure I got my point across all that well, so you can ignore this if you want, especially because I can't think of a better alternative.
Sasuke (II)

Sasuke's Six Paths key is better, but it can be expanded upon. One thing I removed is his justification with Chidori and added it to his regular speed. The reason I did this was because the lethality and speed of the Chidori rely on the thrusting. We see that when he uses Chidori Spear (not Katana, which I'll explain in the AP section), he doesn't need to thrust his hands like he does with a normal Chidori, so it's just his base speed that had him quickly catch up to Madara and cut him in half. We also see later on when Madara finally gets his second eye, Naruto is able to reach Sakura and Madara within the same time as Sasuke does with the Spear, so it doesn't seem to have that same speed amp that the normal Chidori has. He does blitz Naruto when they fight at the end so I added that as a justification instead:

"FTL (Completely evaded Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Yin Release Lightning Dispatch with Amenotejikara and quickly caught up to Madara and bisected him with Chidori Eisō, with Madara noting him as fast. Erected a partially formed Susanoo to defend against Kaguya's Togebari. Kept up with Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto) (Chapter 674/680/695/696), higher with Chidori (Blitzed Naruto and his clones) (Chapter 697),
This all seems fine to me.
I'm not sure anything here really justifies a "far higher" tbh. I know that's super nitpicky lol, but shouldn't this just be "higher"?
Naruto (Blank Period)

Naruto's Blank Period key's base justification is outdated. Also has mention of the infamous photon beams he dodged while sickly as Hokage. It should be scrapped and changed. The (head) Autonomous Puppets are able to react to Naruto's attacks so that's why they're here:

"FTL (Faster than his previous self. Fought off Toneri's Autonomous Puppets), higher with Kurama Sage Mode (Far faster than before. Able to react to Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion)"
What's the justification for Naruto being faster than his previous self? Also, Idk about his Chakra Mode being "far faster" than before either. If the "before" in question here is his WA self, then the same question I asked earlier applies. And if it's referring to his base form, then I have to question that too because as discussed previously, his chakra modes don't seem to offer dramatic speed amps to Naruto anymore Post-Six Paths.
Sasuke (Blank Period)

Sasuke's Blank Period key should be FTL not FTL+:

"FTL (Faster than his previous self), higher with Chidori"
Yeah, this is fine. Sasuke surpassed Naruto in the BE, so him being marginally faster is fine I suppose.
Orochimaru

Right now, we have Post-Resurrection Orochimaru scaling to Relativistic because he "Moved FTE to base Naruto who is this fast"

Problems with this rating:


Not only is Naruto in this novel affected by the same illness that affected Hagoromo, which makes him incredibly weak, dying and unable to manipulate chakra, but also we are unable to calc Naruto dodging the beams in the novel. We have no idea how far he was away from the beams and there are other factors at play that are currently unknown so it logically makes no sense to slap a Rel rating on Orochimaru (Also Orochimaru should really get a "New Era" key, more on that later):

Due to this, he should drop down to Massively Hypersonic+. A new justification can be "Same as before. Traded blows with Victor (Episode 175)". This would obviously downgrade Victor and Sage Transformation Mitsuki to Massively Hypersonic+ due to scaling to Orochimaru.
Yep, this is all good.
AP

Sasuke (II)
So, I have a few gripes with Sasuke's rating.

Firstly, not a fan of his Ninjutsu justification or rating. He doesn't harm Naruto nor does he press him. He doesn't press Naruto with Fireball Jutsu at all, he blocks it quite well. When tagged by Chidori, Naruto does yelp, but he takes virtually 0 damage. He has no bruises on his body afterwards and we see lightning come off his body, suggesting that the lightning effects are what he's reacting to in the scan. Of course one could argue that he regenerated it, but I doubt it considering even within the scan where he gets tagged, there is no bruise or injury to be seen.
I'm fine with this mostly.
However, I do think you're selling Sasuke's showings a tad short IMO.
The Fireball Jutsu still seemingly forced Naruto to enter his SPSM Kurama Mode and even use a massive chakra arm to block it. I feel something like that at least warrants a "higher with Ninjutsu" rating or something.
As for the Chidori, I mean, how would we even see bruising? He blocked it with his arm, which is covered in the chakra cloak. So any hypothetical damage wouldn't really be visible, unless it's something super severe obviously. But you don't really need to severely harm someone to scale to them.
I think sending Naruto flying, making him grimace and cry out in pain should be enough for the feat to be added to the Low 5-B Chidori jutsification, especially because it's consistent with the Chidori slightly harming, but not doing severe damage to people on Naruto's level physically. So basically, it doesn't one-shot or severely injure people on this level, but it clearly doesn't tickle either. So I think it should be mentioned.
I do have a slight problem with this. The Chidori Spear is confirmed to be inferior to the Chidori in terms of power. And also the attack he bisected Madara with just doesn't look like the Chidori Spear to me.
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C
Exhibit D
So yeah, I dunno. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but to me it seems like the Chidori Spear is like more stretched out and thus weaker? While the move he used on Madara looks like the Chidori Katana, but y'know, without the Katana. It might be a variation of the Chidori Eisō, but I feel like calling it that when it's confirmed to be weaker than the Chidori is a tad inaccurate. Not sure what to call it instead, though.
Now that I've established that his Ninjutsu justification shouldn't direct to anything regarding KS6PM Naruto, what should his justification be? At the very least, his Chidori should be Small Planet level for harming Madara, and his Chidori Spear should scale higher for bisecting him. Sasuke has no other feats with his other Ninjutsu, his fireball gets blocked easily by Naruto, he never tries anything else but his Raiton against Madara. So we have no reason to scale his other Ninjutsu to that level (We do the same with kids from the New Era, as their AP sections are updated due to the UES CRT, for example characters like Sarada and Mitsuki have keys where specific chakra natures scale above the rest, specifically Raiton):

"At least Island level, likely Moon level+ physically (Much stronger due to acquiring Six Paths Chakra, likely half as strong as Ghost Hagaromo due to inheriting half of his power), Small Planet level with Chidori (Harmed Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Limbo clone alongside Naruto) (Chapter 674), higher with Chidori Eisō (Bisected Madara) (Chapter 674). (And then the rest follows)"
Outside of what I previously outlined, this is mostly fine. Minor nitpick though, he didn't harm the Limbo, but Madara himself. (We see Madara's lips bleeding slightly after Naruto and Sasuke landed their attacks, right before he substituted in the Limbo clone)

Also, regarding Sasuke's physicals, I feel it's worth mentioning that we later see that his physical AP is not terribly far off of his durability given that he can harm Naruto, who can harm him in turn. It shows that Sasuke's not some tank whose durability is vastly above his physical strength. Which to be fair has never been the case for any of his forms or keys anyway, barring special moves like the Susano'o.
Sasuke (Blank Period)

Since Sasuke's Blank Period key pretty much the same as Part 2 but higher, his profile is also affected by this:

"Moon level, likely Moon level+ (Sasuke is Kakashi's strongest student, which would make him stronger than Naruto as seen in The Last), Small Planet level with Chidori (Should at least be as strong as the Chidori of his teenage self), higher with Chidori Eisō (This jutsu is superior to Sasuke's normal Chidori as displayed with his teen self) (And then the rest follows)"


Orochimaru

As I said before, Orochimaru needs a new key for the New Era. He has feats so it makes no sense to bunch it up with his War key.

AP, Dura, SS: Island level (Traded blows with Victor) (Episode 175) (Scales to 34.4 Gigatons)
All of this is perfectly fine.
Shino

Lol kind of random I know, but I disagree with Shino's Insect AP ratings with his Insect Jutsu because they act more like dura neg. They function by absorbing chakra and his stronger variant of bugs when they enter your body and absorb chakra, they grow inside until they completely eat you from the inside out. So his rating would be something like:

"City Block level physically (Easily blocked an attack from Zaku and later knocked him out[42]) | At least City Block level physically (Should be far stronger than he was during Part I) | At least City Block level physically (Should be far stronger than he was in Part II)"
RIP Shino, man's can't catch a break lol
Mitsuki

Mitsuki's Town level ratings with Raiton and Sage Mode were scaling to Shino. If Shino loses his Town level rating, then so does Mitsuki. Shino and Mitsuki scale to the same value, but Shino obviously scales higher in the Academy Era, so Mitsuki still gets that higher for beating him in Sage Mode. The novel adaptation of the first arc mentions how Mitsuki was able to harm Shino because Mitsuki took advantage of the bugs that were being expelled from his body allowing his Snake Lightning to enter his inside, so his Hebi Ikazuchi wouldn't scale anyway. I also scaled his Sage Mode above Boruto's Boruto Stream on his second key, and Boruto's Rasengan on his third. Both times they're eluded to be too dangerous/risky/extreme to use, so they should be above Boruto's AP.

Now this might be a crazy upgrade but bear with me. I believe Mitsuki's Sage Transformation should scale above Orochimaru. And here's why:
In the one-shot, when Mitsuki, Suigetsu and Orochimaru are discussing why they have to go fight Log, Orochimaru states that he's one of the legendary Sannin, so he's no ordinary shinobi. Mitsuki then asks why is he coming along since he's so weak, which Orochimaru replies, "You're underestimating yourself. I already told you... you're special. You're my child. I am quite fond of you. You just don't happen to remember right now. We're doing this for our familial relationship too." Later we see Orochimaru and Log duke it out and we see that they're relative (The anime makes this even more clear). Right before Orochimaru gets paralyzed by Log's jutsu, Orochimaru tells Mitsuki that he has "Sage Power", to which Log replies, "Yeah, he's the one I really need to watch. I had alot of difficulty with him last time." After Orochimaru comes back from stealing the scroll from Log, he outright tells Mitsuki, "You bear within you more power than I. Oh, how eagerly I awaited your existence!" As we all know later when he eventually uses Sage Transformation, he blitzes the **** out of both Orochimaru and Log. I think this is enough evidence to put Mitsuki's Sage Transformation above Orochimaru, aka Island level:

"At least City-Block level (Nearly defeated Iwabe in a one-on-one. Pinned Sumire and nearly finished her off. Assisted Boruto against Shizuma), higher with Sage Mode (Forced Shino to take him a bit more seriously), Island level with Sage Transformation (34.4 Gigs) (Orochimaru stated that Mitsuki bears more power within himself than he does, and Log after fighting and paralyzing Orochimaru stated that he had a lot of difficulty with him the last time they fought) (Naruto Gaiden: The Road Illuminated by The Full Moon) | At least City-Block level (Stronger than before. Shinki told Yodo and Araya to watch out for Mitsuki) (Episode 58), Multi-City Block level+ with Sage Mode (Orochimaru had told him not to use his Sage power because it is too dangerous, so it should scale above Boruto), Island level with Sage Transformation (34.4 Gigs) (Same as before) | At least City-Block level (Same as before), higher with Hebi Ikazuchi (One-shot Boruto), Island level with Sage Mode (4.3 Gigs) (Orochimaru discouraged Mitsuki from using his Sage power because the power was considered too dangerous and extreme. Even while holding back, his power impressed Ku, which should put him above the likes of Boruto), Island level with Sage Transformation (Same as before. Attacked Deepa with Senpō: Orochi Ikazuchi, although it did no damage, he performed better than his other teammates) | Island level (Damaged Boro with a kick), far higher with Sage Transformation"

Ku


Ku would scale to Island level with Doton for cutting SM Mitsuki's arm. He also scales to Onoki with Jinton. All the same value so it's consistent

"Possibly Town level (Clashed with Akatsuchi and sent him crashing into a pillar) | Possibly Town level, likely far higher (Far stronger than before. Easily handled Boruto, Sarada and Mitsuki without much effort), Island level with Doton: Gōremu no Jutsu (Cut off Sage Mode Mitsuki's arm) and Jinton (Clashed with Onoki's Jinton before ultimately losing) (Episode 91)"
Some of the wording might be wonky so if there's anything that stands out, let me know.
I'm cool with all of this.

Great job on the whole, very good CRT!
 
I'd like to note that Sasuke jumped way farther than Naruto
I think the argument isn't that Naruto is equal to Sauce but more so low-end relative. Which is pretty much consistent with everything else in the series like Naruto keeping up with fused Momoshiki in base despite Momoshiki being at least equal to his 6 paths form.

Also why did you separate your scans in 4 different links instead of putting it in a single imgur link 😭
 
I think the argument isn't that Naruto is equal to Sauce but more so low-end relative. Which is pretty much consistent with everything else in the series like Naruto keeping up with fused Momoshiki in base despite Momoshiki being at least equal to his 6 paths form.
I'm just saying this'd explain Slayer's issue (also Base Naruto was kinda getting slapped so I wouldn't say that suggest it's a small difference)
Also why did you separate your scans in 4 different links instead of putting it in a single imgur link 😭
I'm lazy
 
I'm just saying this'd explain Slayer's issue
Uh, I mean, sure in this specific case it could suggest so. But we have evidence like base Naruto reacting to and yanking TCM Toneri in the face (yeah it was a chakra charged fist which could mean it might be faster, but his mental reaction speed would still need to scale or he should have been blitzed), and the extremely obvious case of Naruto keeping up with fused Momoshiki.

Point being mainly that the narrative of base Naruto being slower but still somewhat relative to his chakra mode is just too consistent to be dismissed. Hell even if we pay attention to Sasuke jumping a larger distance towards Naruto here, they still jump away at the exact same speed and Sasuke had no reason to slow down for that so again, (slight) evidence of relativity.
(also Base Naruto was kinda getting slapped so I wouldn't say that suggest it's a small difference)
I mean, was he? Naruto immediately goes into his chakra mode after this in the manga and if we were to use the anime for some reason, Naruto is still very much reacting a lot and more so seems to be getting outskilled if anything.
You literally did 4x more work wdym you're lazy 😭
 
Uh, I mean, sure in this specific case it could suggest so. But we have evidence like base Naruto reacting to and yanking TCM Toneri in the face (yeah it was a chakra charged fist which could mean it might be faster, but his mental reaction speed would still need to scale or he should have been blitzed), and the extremely obvious case of Naruto keeping up with fused Momoshiki.

Point being mainly that the narrative of base Naruto being slower but still somewhat relative to his chakra mode is just too consistent to be dismissed. Hell even if we pay attention to Sasuke jumping a larger distance towards Naruto here, they still jump away at the exact same speed and Sasuke had no reason to slow down for that so again, (slight) evidence of relativity.
I'm not saying SPSM Naruto is a blitz tier faster than Base Naruto so this is kinda irrelevant to the point
I mean, was he? Naruto immediately goes into his chakra mode after this in the manga and if we were to use the anime for some reason, Naruto is still very much reacting a lot and more so seems to be getting outskilled if anything.
He was clearly being pressed hard in both versions, and kill skill doesn't change from Base to SPSM, just his stats, and he did much better in SPSM
You literally did 4x more work wdym you're lazy 😭
Nah, I'd win
 
just got home from work and might go to the gym later so ill respond to the evaluations when I can
 
He was clearly being pressed hard in both versions, and kill skill doesn't change from Base to SPSM, just his stats, and he did much better in SPSM
As much as I wish the anime version of this fight was the canon version (it's just objectively better lol), it's not. So there's really not enough to reach the conclusion that Naruto was pressed physically by Sasuke.
They clashed equally (showing that they're physicals are somewhat comparable at least), then Sasuke fired a fireball jutsu, which prompted Naruto to go into SPSM to block with a chakra arm, implying one of two things.
1) Sasuke's Jutsu is above his physicals, and by extension Naruto's.
2) The chakra cloak was needed to deal with the fire's heat/burning, which we've seen before.
Imo, it's a combination of the two, but either way neither of these things really disprove that they're relative physically.

Even in the anime version, I'd argue it was clear that Sasuke was dominating Naruto mainly due to skill and his dojutsu, not necessarily due to some major physical gap. But that's neither here nor there since we're not dealing with the anime version right now.
 
Uh that comment was about Naruto vs Momoshiki, not Naruto vs Sasuke. My argument about Naruto vs Sasuke used the manga entirely (and is actually contradicted by the anime where they meet straight in the middle lol)
 
This looks good, definitely much better than what's currently there.
It's just, I don't know. It feels weird there being all of these "higher" and "even higher" scaling chains when base Naruto can match someone who scales to his "even higher" rating. I dunno if I'm making sense here lol. I get that these forms should offer speed amps, but the feats are a bit off. They make it seem like all these guys are pretty relative. I guess that could still work with negligible amps, but eh. It's a bit weird lol. Sorry if this was a bit rant-y. I'm not sure I got my point across all that well, so you can ignore this if you want, especially because I can't think of a better alternative.
Nah don't worry, I get what you're saying. If you (or anyone else) has any better alternative, I'm all for it, but for now I think this is the best we've got. If I'm understanding this correctly, this just means that once Naruto got Six Paths chakra, maybe the amps aren't really that massive?
I'm not sure anything here really justifies a "far higher" tbh. I know that's super nitpicky lol, but shouldn't this just be "higher"?
Fixed
What's the justification for Naruto being faster than his previous self?
Seeing how a couple years passed, I don't see why he wouldn't be. He's clearly stronger than before. Should I say something like "Should be faster than before"?
Idk about his Chakra Mode being "far faster" than before either. If the "before" in question here is his WA self, then the same question I asked earlier applies. And if it's referring to his base form, then I have to question that too because as discussed previously, his chakra modes don't seem to offer dramatic speed amps to Naruto anymore Post-Six Paths.
Honestly I just copied and pasted it from his profile, I forgot to edit that part. I can remove the "far faster" and say something like "Should faster than before" (referring to base). It's still an amp, even if it's not that dramatic.
I'm fine with this mostly.
However, I do think you're selling Sasuke's showings a tad short IMO.
The Fireball Jutsu still seemingly forced Naruto to enter his SPSM Kurama Mode and even use a massive chakra arm to block it. I feel something like that at least warrants a "higher with Ninjutsu" rating or something.
Hmm I guess. Overall I'm just against his fireball or "Ninjutsu" scaling to KSPSM. Higher than Naruto's base, however, is fine:

"higher with Ninjutsu (Forced Naruto to enter Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode and block his Fireball Jutsu)" is something like that okay?
I think sending Naruto flying, making him grimace and cry out in pain should be enough for the feat to be added to the Low 5-B Chidori jutsification, especially because it's consistent with the Chidori slightly harming, but not doing severe damage to people on Naruto's level physically. So basically, it doesn't one-shot or severely injure people on this level, but it clearly doesn't tickle either. So I think it should be mentioned.
Sure, I can add it as well:

Small Planet level with Chidori (Harmed Post-Shinju Absorption Ten-Tails Jinchūriki Madara's Limbo clone alongside Naruto. Sent Naruto flying and made him grimace in pain)
I do have a slight problem with this. The Chidori Spear is confirmed to be inferior to the Chidori in terms of power.
Oh wow I never knew this... interesting.
While the move he used on Madara looks like the Chidori Katana, but y'know, without the Katana.
With the databook calling it inferior to the Chidori and that attack on Madara clearly doing more damage to him than his regular Chidori, I'll definitely concede to that. That makes sense.
Minor nitpick though, he didn't harm the Limbo, but Madara himself. (We see Madara's lips bleeding slightly after Naruto and Sasuke landed their attacks, right before he substituted in the Limbo clone)
Oh ok, I'll fix that then.
Also, regarding Sasuke's physicals, I feel it's worth mentioning that we later see that his physical AP is not terribly far off of his durability given that he can harm Naruto, who can harm him in turn. It shows that Sasuke's not some tank whose durability is vastly above his physical strength. Which to be fair has never been the case for any of his forms or keys anyway, barring special moves like the Susano'o.
Oh totally agree with you there. I didn't even notice that his durability was scaled higher than his AP, that's quite odd.

So that would mean Base Naruto would then scale to Low 5-B as well right? Since they can harm each other?
Great job on the whole, very good CRT!
Thanks alot for ur evaluation
 
Nah don't worry, I get what you're saying. If you (or anyone else) has any better alternative, I'm all for it, but for now I think this is the best we've got. If I'm understanding this correctly,
Like I said, I can't quite think of a better alternative atm, but maybe by the time we do the speed revisions as a whole, something will come up. For now tho, this works just fine.
this just means that once Naruto got Six Paths chakra, maybe the amps aren't really that massive?
Quite right, imo.
Awesome.
Seeing how a couple years passed, I don't see why he wouldn't be. He's clearly stronger than before. Should I say something like "Should be faster than before"?
Ehhh, Idk. I don't think the passive passage of time is a good justification for people getting stronger on its own. Like it could be a good justification for why they have better feats, but on its own? Idk. It's not like these guys have passive RPL or something.
IMO, it should just be "Should at least be as fast as before", or something along those lines.
Honestly I just copied and pasted it from his profile, I forgot to edit that part. I can remove the "far faster" and say something like "Should faster than before" (referring to base). It's still an amp, even if it's not that dramatic.
That's perfectly fine.
Hmm I guess. Overall I'm just against his fireball or "Ninjutsu" scaling to KSPSM. Higher than Naruto's base, however, is fine:

"higher with Ninjutsu (Forced Naruto to enter Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode and block his Fireball Jutsu)" is something like that okay?
Yep, works for me.
Perfect 👌
Oh wow I never knew this... interesting.

With the databook calling it inferior to the Chidori and that attack on Madara clearly doing more damage to him than his regular Chidori, I'll definitely concede to that. That makes sense.
Yeah, it's a bit of an obscure thing lol, dw about it. I didn't know it either for quite a long time, until I randomly found it while skimming over DB3.
Oh ok, I'll fix that then.
Fuego
Oh totally agree with you there. I didn't even notice that his durability was scaled higher than his AP, that's quite odd.

So that would mean Base Naruto would then scale to Low 5-B as well right? Since they can harm each other?
I'm not sure. I think some people had issues with Low 5-B specifically cause it potentially created some circular scaling with Naruto scaling to the same value as his SPSM form. Personally, I just think it's more like these guys are all around the same level and the amps are super marginal, but I'm not sure how to convey that in a coherent justification with set values lol.
Thanks alot for ur evaluation
Anytime ❤️‍🔥
 
Ehhh, Idk. I don't think the passive passage of time is a good justification for people getting stronger on its own. Like it could be a good justification for why they have better feats, but on its own? Idk. It's not like these guys have passive RPL or something.
IMO, it should just be "Should at least be as fast as before", or something along those lines.
This says his body matured, which would improve his physical energy > chakra > speed
第四次忍界大戦時に17歳だったナルトは19歳になり、顔や体が少し逞しくなっているなど、登場キャラクターはそれぞれ少しずつ大人っぽく成長。
Naruto, who was 17 years old during the Fourth Shinobi World War, is now 19 years old, and his face and body have become a little stronger/more rugged/robust; each of the characters has grown a little more mature.
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This says his body matured, which would improve his physical energy > chakra > speed
第四次忍界大戦時に17歳だったナルトは19歳になり、顔や体が少し逞しくなっているなど、登場キャラクターはそれぞれ少しずつ大人っぽく成長。
Naruto, who was 17 years old during the Fourth Shinobi World War, is now 19 years old, and his face and body have become a little stronger/more rugged/robust; each of the characters has grown a little more mature.
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This to me sounds like its just saying Naruto grew older in context. 🤷‍♂️
 
Same thing as growing stronger, it's the same as an irl person getting stronger as they age 🤷‍♂️
Except it's clearly highlighting his physical appearance growing more mature, as well as the other characters'. It really doesn't sound like a "power-scaling statement" to me at all. The second part is an appeal to reality.
 
This says his body matured, which would improve his physical energy > chakra > speed
第四次忍界大戦時に17歳だったナルトは19歳になり、顔や体が少し逞しくなっているなど、登場キャラクターはそれぞれ少しずつ大人っぽく成長。
Naruto, who was 17 years old during the Fourth Shinobi World War, is now 19 years old, and his face and body have become a little stronger/more rugged/robust; each of the characters has grown a little more mature.
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What even is this from? I swear I keep getting fladhbanged by new information
 
I'm not sure. I think some people had issues with Low 5-B specifically cause it potentially created some circular scaling with Naruto scaling to the same value as his SPSM form. Personally, I just think it's more like these guys are all around the same level and the amps are super marginal, but I'm not sure how to convey that in a coherent justification with set values lol.
Why can't we just make their base Low 5-B and make everything else (Jutsus, chakra cloaks, Rasengans, Chidoris, avatars) as varying degrees of "higher".

Seems fine to me, and doesn't seem to create a circular scaling, as well as remedies the fact that Sasuke's durability is much higher rated than his physical AP, despite Sasuke being explicitly not a tank.
 
Why can't we just make their base Low 5-B and make everything else (Jutsus, chakra cloaks, Rasengans, Chidoris, avatars) as varying degrees of "higher".

Seems fine to me, and doesn't seem to create a circular scaling, as well as remedies the fact that Sasuke's durability is much higher rated than his physical AP, despite Sasuke being explicitly not a tank.
Because the Low 5-B originally comes from their higher forms/ninjutsu.
 
Okay I updated and fixed everything but the current discussion regarding base scaling to SPSM forms. What exactly should we do about it? The best thing I can think of is Base Naruto holding back against Sasuke in that clash? I know Naruto was holding back in the beginning of the fight and was trying harder later in the match? So I can remove Naruto scaling to Sasuke in AP if that's accepted.


Except I just remembered that they were trading blows at the end of the match :confused:. This is so weird
 
Naruto holding back?

Also I wouldn't say them trading blows at the end necessarily means much since they're both weakened but not necessarily to the same degree
 
Also I wouldn't say them trading blows at the end necessarily means much since they're both weakened but not necessarily to the same degree
The degree to which they're weakened respective to each other is irrelevant. It's more so about Sasuke not being a tank.
As in, it shows that he can physically harm someone capable of harming him, thereby scaling his AP to his own durability.
Unless we randomly assume his durability dropped off way more than his AP, which would be a very strange assumption to make.
 
Yeah ik, I'm talking about FP Base Naruto scaling, not Sasuke
Ah, I see. That would be a convenient solution indeed. But given Sasuke's mindset at the time, does it make sense for him to hold back, really?

Edit: nvm, I misunderstood again.
So I'm not sure whether or not they were equally weakened at the very end matters much when we saw them clash when they were more fresh.
I feel like the only solution here is to assume Sasuke wasn't necessarily going at a 100% in their initial clash, and thus downscale Naruto, but I'm not really sure how to justify that.
 
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