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Some Jojo Part 5 CRTs.
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Well, I meant with scans and links for the stuff claimed, especially the Intelligence stuff, although about it
I still disagree with Giorno's durability scaling to that attack.
No need for the "even", and we can write how he impressed Fugo.
This is incredibly misleading, the individual feats he had to do should be listed like the research he had to do and taking over Passione with Diavolo's death. Putting it like that tells us nothing about how it essentially came down to Giorno and his team defeating 15 or so persons coming to them 1 or 2 at a time while sometimes Giorno fought alone, sometimes helped, and sometimes he didn't fight.
I still disagree with Giorno's durability scaling to that attack.
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If I may propose my variation (which is what everyone was agreeing with anyway, Cloozuma forgot the caveat of it being just a "possibly").
Gifted for Bruno. (No idea how to word this, I can list some reasons but as for actually writing the description for the profile, someone else is better off doing that).
At least Gifted, possibly higher for Giorno. (Higher being a stand-in for Genius, though I'm unsure if he qualifies by our standards for Genius hence the possibly, either way, Genius or higher in this situation hold the same meaning, also same with the above, I can gather some scans if people want or toss out some feats but honestly Efi., you're probably best suited to write the actual description).
Green Day is becoming Possibly Small Building level, possibly Building level/higher (either or, same effect, different wording, end result is identical, though Higher was the last variant proposed and agreed on by most here so I'd say we just go with Higher).
Giorno would probably be, At least street level (walking off vehicular crashes and all that fun shit), possibly Small Building level (possibly as Green Day's scaling is only a possibly as well, so even best case scenario it's just a possibly, but also due to taking hefty damage from Green Day meaning he doesn't scale in full to it, as in he backscales off whatever AP Green Day has. Green Day is already a bit on the lower end of 8-C at best, meaning if he does scale, Giorno would be backscaling into a lower tier either way, but given 9-A is kinda a massive tier, as long as Giorno is within 50x Green Day's possible AP, he'd scale into 9-A).
So basically.
GD goes from 8-C to Possibly 9-A, possibly Higher.
Giorno's durability goes from 10-B/A or whatever it's at to 9-C, possibly 9-A with two caveats.
And just intelligence shit that just needs someone to write out a description to put on the profile and we can be on our way with that one as from what I can tell, that was universally agreed upon.
Gifted for Bruno. (No idea how to word this, I can list some reasons but as for actually writing the description for the profile, someone else is better off doing that).
At least Gifted, possibly higher for Giorno. (Higher being a stand-in for Genius, though I'm unsure if he qualifies by our standards for Genius hence the possibly, either way, Genius or higher in this situation hold the same meaning, also same with the above, I can gather some scans if people want or toss out some feats but honestly Efi., you're probably best suited to write the actual description).
Green Day is becoming Possibly Small Building level, possibly Building level/higher (either or, same effect, different wording, end result is identical, though Higher was the last variant proposed and agreed on by most here so I'd say we just go with Higher).
Giorno would probably be, At least street level (walking off vehicular crashes and all that fun shit), possibly Small Building level (possibly as Green Day's scaling is only a possibly as well, so even best case scenario it's just a possibly, but also due to taking hefty damage from Green Day meaning he doesn't scale in full to it, as in he backscales off whatever AP Green Day has. Green Day is already a bit on the lower end of 8-C at best, meaning if he does scale, Giorno would be backscaling into a lower tier either way, but given 9-A is kinda a massive tier, as long as Giorno is within 50x Green Day's possible AP, he'd scale into 9-A).
So basically.
GD goes from 8-C to Possibly 9-A, possibly Higher.
Giorno's durability goes from 10-B/A or whatever it's at to 9-C, possibly 9-A with two caveats.
And just intelligence shit that just needs someone to write out a description to put on the profile and we can be on our way with that one as from what I can tell, that was universally agreed upon.
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Well this seems fair.
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You don't need to ask, you're allowed to ask or notify whoever you please (unless for some odd reason you're actively told not to, but that only ever happens if you're actively stalking or becoming a huge issue from what I've seen).
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"Gifted, possibly Genius. A very competent analyzer of the situations around him, tactician and leader. Giorno is always calm and analyzes foes, friends, passersby and the environment around to have a read on their situations, speculate or deduct a why of it unshown at plain sight or just detecting traps, things abnormal and weaknesses. He has used this mid-combat to set-up traps by way of giving himself an idea of what his foes were doing and what they would do, silently acting in response. Granted, part of the downsides he sees on foes are due to Stands having specific gimmicks that, while overpowered, aren't perfect and may have something that can be exploited to overcome them, which is still impressive for him to deduct. He can creatively maneuver around all kinds of diverse situations using the dozens upon dozens of options given by the abilities of his Stand, or by leading his partners to use their powers properly. Took over the powerful mafia known as Passione after killing its boss, dealing with a number of managements and aiming to end its selling of drugs."
I don't have time to make albums for the things claimed, but anyone could and they would fit well on it.
I don't have time to make albums for the things claimed, but anyone could and they would fit well on it.
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I think this is it for Gio's Intelligence.
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Thank you Eficiente. I made some structural adjustments.
"Gifted. A very competent analyzer of the situations around him, and a skilled tactician and leader. Giorno is always calm and analyzes foes, friends, passersby and the environment around to have a read on situations. He can speculate or make deductions of what is not shown in plain sight, or just detect traps, abnormalities, and weaknesses. He has used this mid-combat to set up traps to give himself an idea of what his foes were doing and what they would do, silently acting in response. It is noteworthy that a part of the downsides he perceives in foes are due to Stands having specific gimmicks that, although powerful, are not perfect and may have some feature that can be exploited to overcome them, which is still impressive for him to deduct. He can creatively maneuver around a variety of diverse situations by using the many options given by the abilities of his Stand, or by instructing his partners to use their powers properly. He took over the powerful mafia known as Passione after killing its leader, which requires dealing with a number of managements, and aiming to end its selling of drugs."
Is the above acceptable to apply?
"Gifted. A very competent analyzer of the situations around him, and a skilled tactician and leader. Giorno is always calm and analyzes foes, friends, passersby and the environment around to have a read on situations. He can speculate or make deductions of what is not shown in plain sight, or just detect traps, abnormalities, and weaknesses. He has used this mid-combat to set up traps to give himself an idea of what his foes were doing and what they would do, silently acting in response. It is noteworthy that a part of the downsides he perceives in foes are due to Stands having specific gimmicks that, although powerful, are not perfect and may have some feature that can be exploited to overcome them, which is still impressive for him to deduct. He can creatively maneuver around a variety of diverse situations by using the many options given by the abilities of his Stand, or by instructing his partners to use their powers properly. He took over the powerful mafia known as Passione after killing its leader, which requires dealing with a number of managements, and aiming to end its selling of drugs."
Is the above acceptable to apply?
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I added it:
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Giorno Giovanna
Giorno Giovanna is the illegitimate son of Dio Brando in Jonathan Joestar's body, and is the fifth "JoJo" in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and the main protagonist of Part V: Vento Aureo. Born in Japan as Haruno Shiobana, he moves with his mother to Italy when she marries his new stepfather. Years...
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Bruno's Intelligence, Gio's Durability, and Green Day's (Cioccolata's) API added it:
Giorno Giovanna
Giorno Giovanna is the illegitimate son of Dio Brando in Jonathan Joestar's body, and is the fifth "JoJo" in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and the main protagonist of Part V: Vento Aureo. Born in Japan as Haruno Shiobana, he moves with his mother to Italy when she marries his new stepfather. Years...
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Gio's Dura should be as stated as Chariot:
Street Level (survived falling from cars with no injuries), possibly Small Building Level (Took a hit from Green Day, albeit with major injuries).
@Efi the reason why we're scaling Gio's Dura to Green Day's AP is because he survived, keyword SURVIVED, unless he died from Green Day.
Street Level (survived falling from cars with no injuries), possibly Small Building Level (Took a hit from Green Day, albeit with major injuries).
@Efi the reason why we're scaling Gio's Dura to Green Day's AP is because he survived, keyword SURVIVED, unless he died from Green Day.
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What do you think should be done regarding this Eficiente?
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Unless you want to scale it to Bruno's Dura, we told you that Gio survived that Punch, but with Chariot's argument I think Possibly is the best choice.
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Thanks.
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Should probably mention of his ability to use his abilities in a variety of ways as the situation calls for it, even in seemingly obscure ways and his knowledge on biology, fauna, zoology and so on being surprisingly indepth given his education.
Also, El Passione runs casinos, restaurants, trade routes, the police, government and more, it's basically all of Italy. Now Giorno wouldn't have direct involvement in every single aspect of this, but he would oversee it all. (And if you count PHF, which is dubious at best but is still worth noting, Giorno made Passione far larger than it ever was before, expanding the mafia's power beyond even goverments or the president).
Also, El Passione runs casinos, restaurants, trade routes, the police, government and more, it's basically all of Italy. Now Giorno wouldn't have direct involvement in every single aspect of this, but he would oversee it all. (And if you count PHF, which is dubious at best but is still worth noting, Giorno made Passione far larger than it ever was before, expanding the mafia's power beyond even goverments or the president).
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We're done with Gio's intelligence.
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I have a question? If return to zero has infinite speed according being none in stats especially in JOJO-A-GO!GO!, why isn't his strength and durability on a higher tier like speed for being none? It could be because of rtz, but how come rtz has no AP like all fiction or imagine breaker?
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Return to Zero is a defensive ability, it dosen't have strengh, but have empatich manipulation.
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It's been shown in the manga that GER's Strength and RTZ acts differently. And RTZ preventing someone to kill Gio is enough.
Otherwise please create another CRT, this isn't about GER.
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What Chariot said about Giorno knowing biology, fauna, zoology and how much influence Passione has should be on Giorno's profile, but at least the latter needs evidence, and it would be easier to just propose a wording for how it would end up looking.
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I think PHF is good evidence.
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Well off the top of my head, the Capo's are explicitly noted to run a vast amount of businesses for their area of control. Bruno in particular was given casino's (gambling and betting operations), loansharking, smuggling operations, and restaurants and hotels in the region of Naples. (All of that mentioned was given direct control to Bruno).
Polnareff later on says that even a decade prior, due to the organization already operating at an extreme degree, he was unable to make use of the postal service, transportation, mass media, politics, etc. Every single facet of society was cut off from him, dude couldn't even ring up Jotaro and presumably the SWF for reinforcement or assistance, that's how ****** he was and how much control the gang had over Italy.
I'll grab the manga scans later but for the time being, here's the anime link for the first part.
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Also, if we make note of the PHF part, Giorno's control over the mob allowed it to grow far beyond what Diavolo ever dreamt of, to where the gang had even more power then the president, unsure if we want to make note of that though.
"It had all been too much for him. Killing the boss and taking over? That was insane.
So he'd left Buccellati's team. Then, last night, Sheila E had found him. Sent by the reformed Passione.
He'd known this day might come...but had not expected this.
They have more power than the old boss ever dreamed of.
Six months ago, Passione had been powerful...as far as organized crime syndicates went. They had connections in business, on the force, in government; bribes and coercion got them almost anything they wanted. But not this.
Summoning him to a UEFA five star stadium like the Guiseppe Meazza meant turning away tens of thousands of rabid fans, and postponing a match despite broadcast contracts with television stations around the world.
That took power beyond any president. Beyond anything the old Passione ever dreamed of. And the blimp above them belonged to the Speedwagon Foundation. One of the most famous research facilities in the world, not prone to granting favors to crime lords. Fugo had no idea how someone would contact them. But if they were here to research something, it must be..."
Pg.12 for the above.
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@Rikimarox2 do you agree in this CRT? I can't seem to post in your profile.
(Gio's Intelligence is done, it's just his dura, GD's AP, and Bruno's Intelligence.
(Gio's Intelligence is done, it's just his dura, GD's AP, and Bruno's Intelligence.
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It's gonna take time, but I think Chariot is able to do so.
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I can do so, I'm just not sure if everything is agreed on yet.
If it is I can implement it, add the extra bit of info and toss some scans in a imgur album to link.
If it is I can implement it, add the extra bit of info and toss some scans in a imgur album to link.
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I just want to know if there's enough agreement for the durability thing. Efi disagrees but the majority do, I do see where Efi is coming from, but at the same time, it's possibly at best, twice over, and that's kinda the main point of this thread, the rest was just bonuses. So I'm unsure if it's safe if we do that, I agree with it of course but I don't want to undermine Efi.
The rest though everyone gave the ok, I'll do it sometime today.
