Some Johnny Test problems + new abilities

[RandomGuy2345]

This is kinda out of nowhere, but there are some fairly major issues I have with Johnny Test's AP (specifically his Johnny X key), and I will be discussing that now (this will also apply to Dukey's and Bling-Bling Boy's pages, if this is accepted).

Looking at Johnny's profile, his 7-C key says this: "Can easily hurt Bling-Bling Boy, who survived this." The problem I have with this is that Johnny's 7-C key is Johnny X, and Bling-Bling survived the attack in his base form. Johnny X should be (and is) far stronger than base form Bling-Bling Boy, and base form Johnny has shown many times throughout the show to harm base form Bling-Bling Boy. It doesn't make sense that base form Bling-Bling Boy is as powerful as Johnny X. I feel like the 7-C feat should be moved to Johnny's, Dukey's, and Bling-Bling Boy's base keys. Their base keys should say "Varies from 8-B+ to likely 7-C+ at peak." Now, I'm not sure how powerful Johnny X, Super Dukey, and Bling-Bling Boy with his mutant powers would be if the feat was moved to their base keys, but if anyone is fairly knowledgeable on the series, show me some feats from Johnny X so we can discuss it and see if it can be accepted.

Time for the new abilities. These come from Susan and Mary's inventions.

Has an Attitude Alternator which basically makes any person who is hit with it do a whole 180 and make them become the opposite of who they are normally (opposite personality)

The Supreme Dream Machine, which makes anyone who gets hit fall asleep for 8 hours straight

I believe that's it.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump

 

[Eficiente]

The first power is Empathic Manip.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Oh, okay. That's out of the way.

I know the second power is Sleep Manipulation.

What's your take on the Johnny X key?

 

[Eficiente]

Bling-Bling Boy should have that durabilty at his best, but as he doesn't have it all the time then others harming him shouldn't scale to it. They need to find their own feats at their best.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I wouldn't say completely remove it from their pages, but I think it's best to keep the 7-C+ feat at their base keys when they're at their peak. I think this is where the Johnny Test characters' Toon Force comes into play. I feel like it would make most sense if their base keys were like this: Varies from 8-B+ to likely 7-C+ at peak. The Johnny Test characters' AP tends to vary from these 2 tiers thanks to their Toon Force.

And Bling-Bling survived a similar attack to the 7-C+ one, to prove that it's consistent.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

This seems to make sense to me, but I am not a good person to ask, and there are no listed supporters in the Johnny Test verse page.

@DarkGrath @The_Wright_Way @Moritzva @DemonGodMitchAubin @Everything12 @Duedate8898 @Planck69 @KingTempest

Would any of you be willing to help evaluate this please?

 

[KingTempest]

Looks fine to me

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the input.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

This all looks good

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. This can probably be applied then.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

What's Johnny X's AP though?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'm only going to add Empathic Manip and Sleep Manip to Johnny's page (if it's okay with y'all), as I still don't know what Johnny X's AP is.

I'll try my best to find some Johnny X feats from throughout the show (as I don't hate it nearly as much as others do) and see if he has any feats that're above 7-C.

 

[Moritzva]

Seems reasonable on first glance.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Sleep Manip and Empathic Manip have been added.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I actually found some feats for Johnny X.

Creates a explosion equal to 200 megatons that destroys Porkbelly

Causes a bigger explosion with Dukey and The General

Since the bigger explosion was caused by 3 people, it's easy to assume that the explosion was equal to 600 megatons.

So, 7-A Johnny X with 7-A+ durability?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Please explain exactly what happened in the feats. I have disabled my YouTube access.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Johnny destroys all of Porkbelly with 200 megaton poot attack.

He creates a bigger explosion with Dukey and The General.

Since there was 3 people in the second feat, that would equal 600 megatons.

So 7-A Johnny X with 7-A+ durability?

 

[Antvasima]

Does Johnny have explosion-creating powers, and did he tank them point blank?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

1. Yes. It states in his profile that he has Explosion Manip.
2. Also yes. He and Dukey survived both the first and second explosions point blank.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then it is probably fine.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Should this get approved by other staff members before getting added? I don't want to immediately add it to Johnny's profile then get a message about me putting in new feats for a page without confirmation.

 

[Antvasima]

@Eficiente @KingTempest @Moritzva @DemonGodMitchAubin

Your further input would be appreciated here.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I actually found some feats for Johnny X.

Creates a explosion equal to 200 megatons that destroys Porkbelly

Causes a bigger explosion with Dukey and The General

Since the bigger explosion was caused by 3 people, it's easy to assume that the explosion was equal to 600 megatons.

So, 7-A Johnny X with 7-A+ durability?

It was calculated by Bambu to be 8-B, so far from 7-A

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the information. We should preferably use that instead then.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Then what should Johnny X's AP be, then?

He can't be 7-C+, as he is far stronger than Bling-Bling in his base. Is there any other Johnny X feats someone can find?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Then what should Johnny X's AP be, then?

He can't be 7-C+, as he is far stronger than Bling-Bling in his base. Is there any other Johnny X feats someone can find?

He would be:
at least 7-C, likely higher

(Is stronger than his base self)

 

[Antvasima]

Blue is correct.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

What about the time when Brain Freezer was going to freeze Porkbelly solid? Does that apply to AP? If so, then how powerful would you have to be in order to free an entire city solid?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

What about the time when Brain Freezer was going to freeze Porkbelly solid? Does that apply to AP? If so, then how powerful would you have to be in order to free an entire city solid?

It was done by a machine, would it even scale to Johnny's base stats???

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It would probably scale to Johnny X, as he melted all of it with one attack.

 

[Antvasima]

Its durability would not automatically scale to its freezing power.

 

[Antvasima]

@I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

What do you think that we should do here?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It would probably scale to Johnny X, as he melted all of it with one attack.

Then calc him melting the frozen parts of porkbelcy, although I remember it getting High 7-C.

Ask a calc member to calc it

 

[Antvasima]

What can we do based on what has already been calculated here?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Should we just ask a calc member to calculate the feat?