Some Ideas For Potential Avatar Revisions

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

The main thing was making Vaata, Raava, and post-Book 2 Korra while in the avatar state "6-c, likely much higher."

Yes, as well as Unalaq in his Dark Avatar State.

Although, shouldn't Book 2 Korra receive it as well? After all, Book 2 is when Korra refuses with Prime Raava and not the tiny weakened one. So maybe she should get "7-B, 6-C, likely much higher by the end of Book 2" in her book 2 key?

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

That sounds reasonable, yes. Though her reemergence with Raava just in the last few minutes of the last episode of the season, so I don't the distinction is that important.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I don't think that she became any stronger when using the Avatar state later, as she was able to match Unalaq as the Dark Avatar, despite Vaatu being far stronger than Raava at that point.

Korra only lost because Vaatu was able to somehow force Raava out of her, rather than killing her in her Avatar state.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yes, as well as Unalaq in his Dark Avatar State.

Although, shouldn't Book 2 Korra receive it as well? After all, Book 2 is when Korra refuses with Prime Raava and not the tiny weakened one. So maybe she should get "7-B, 6-C, likely much higher by the end of Book 2" in her book 2 key?

The 6-C thing would need to be re-calced though

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Yeah, I'll try and get in a re-calc

Or a re-evaluation anyway

To see if Lina's calc checks out or if it needs to be re-done entirely.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Has it been evaluated yet.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Has it been evaluated yet.

Nope. I put it in the calc eval thread but no answer back as of now.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Nope. I put it in the calc eval thread but no answer back as of now.

Try contacting calc member staff directly on their walls. And if that doesn't work, DM Ant to help you getting them

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Can you summerize it?

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Can you summerize it?

An Avatar sinking an island, and an Earth Avatar being able to chuck landmasses.

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

I think that Korra should have limited teleportation on her profile. After she reconnected with Raava in "Beyond the Wilds", she was able to warp herself to the spirit pods where Jinora and the tour guests were being held. Raava's dialogue beforehand ("You are at your most powerful in the spirit world") implies that this is something that she can do while in the spirit world, but only in the spirit world, hence the 'limited' part.

 

[Qawsedf234]

An Avatar sinking an island, and an Earth Avatar being able to chuck landmasses.

Sinking an island in an unknown amount of time is accomplished with energy less than 6-C.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

What would it be, do you think?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Supporting evidence for a Tier 7 rating.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

How about the landmasses part? There is also an Avatar that made every cloud in the horizon move.

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

Bump.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Supporting evidence for a Tier 7 rating.

Where in tier 7?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Any Tier 7 could do it unless the island was like Crete or Cyprus sized.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

So mountain level Avatar?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Bump

 

[JJSliderman]

So ah.

No Moon level Avatar state huh.
Shame.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

So ah.

No Moon level Avatar state huh.
Shame.

No but Island level is still possible, I just need to get someone to evaluate the calc.

 

[JJSliderman]

Why was it deemed unusable btw

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Why was it deemed unusable btw

What? No one said it was unusable.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I believe it was for a couple reasons; one of them being the Earth and moon are allegedly smaller than the real world's version in terms of volume; though it does still have Earth level gravity meaning the average density of the planet would have to be greater if that is the case. The other reason has to do with the stabilization feats standards and that destroying the moon is nothing but a domino effect. The latter being a more likely example.

The Tier 6 feat has some good promises however.

 

[JJSliderman]

I guess it is a domino effect to some degree, but the moon immediately returns when the spirit is revived, so I’m not sure.
But fair enough.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

What? No one said it was unusable.

I would still suggest to re-do this calculation, as it's from 2017

 

[KingTempest]

I believe it was for a couple reasons; one of them being the Earth and moon are allegedly smaller than the real world's version in terms of volume; though it does still have Earth level gravity meaning the average density of the planet would have to be greater if that is the case.

I understand the stabilization standards but what about the planet? What's the proof for that?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I would still suggest to re-do this calculation, as it's from 2017

A re-calc yes, but no one here said the calc was unusable entirely is what I meant.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

A re-calc yes, but no one here said the calc was unusable entirely is what I meant.

It's not unusable, but we should likely make you a new blog

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Who wants to do it?

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

I understand the stabilization standards but what about the planet? What's the proof for that?

I don't think there is any. I think people generally say that about Avatar cause of the world map not having a lot of people to it compared to rl Earth.. That doesn't mean the planet isn't as large, though.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I don't think there is any. I think people generally say that about Avatar cause of the world map not having a lot of people to it compared to rl Earth.. That doesn't mean the planet isn't as large, though.

This.

Harmonic Convergence by itself blatantly shows the planet is earth like, there's no reason to assume it's smaller.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I just heard people like Kepekley and Ultima Reality talking about that, I saw no source an skeptical about it though.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah there's absolutely nothing that suggests it's smaller than the actual Earth

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Honestly this argument is akin to saying the Naruto earth is smaller than ours because of its unique geography of having 5 main countries (even though we know the planet obviously has land masses outside of the 5 shinobi nations)

The avatar earth is in the same boat as we know it has land masses outside of the 4 nations (like the fire nation colonies, Zaofu, republic city, etc etc)

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

So ah.

No Moon level Avatar state huh.
Shame.

Where did the proposal for moon-level avatar come from? Is it from when Aang was fused with the ocean spirit, who should be comparable to the moon spirit?

 

[JJSliderman]

I think it's just him being fused with Raava who is > Moon Spirit.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I think it's just him being fused with Raava who is > Moon Spirit.

This, and also because of the ocean spirit manipulating the oceans (which wouldve been High 6-A or 6-A bare minimum, but not anymore).

So 6-C is the next best thing if we can get that calc Lina made to be evaluated/redone.