well, I don'tthink giratina's stronger than Dialga and Palkia, because in "the battle finale of legend" many of Ash's pokemon broke the red chains as well. Perhaps being controlled by the power is harder to break out of than if someone not being controlled breaks you out.
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Some Arceus revisions (and some thing(s) for the CT/LT)
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and said pokemons had momentarely stopped a time roar from dialga seconds before ovo, it's just one of the many PIS of the animeAmbrosia and duck sauce said:
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Overlord is right. Them even cracking the chains is PIS, just like Cynthia's Garchomp stopping a spacial rend from Palkia.
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@Kal
1,3) Looking at all the characters listed under Abstract Exisrenfd, and so few of them actually portray that characteristic that the rule is basically wrong. Legitimately only the SDGL and the tier 1s. However, iirc, it is stated that the Distortion World and Giratina are tied together. Besides, we agreed years (well...year) ago that they were the concepts themselves rather than embodiments. TBH, I don't even know where the distinction between the two began.
5) See, I'd be fine with that, but I'm fully expecting people to just group it with the run-of-the-mill reality warping and ignore it, when the way it's worded makes it seem otherwise. Besides, I've seen vaguer.
9) Agreed
1,3) Looking at all the characters listed under Abstract Exisrenfd, and so few of them actually portray that characteristic that the rule is basically wrong. Legitimately only the SDGL and the tier 1s. However, iirc, it is stated that the Distortion World and Giratina are tied together. Besides, we agreed years (well...year) ago that they were the concepts themselves rather than embodiments. TBH, I don't even know where the distinction between the two began.
5) See, I'd be fine with that, but I'm fully expecting people to just group it with the run-of-the-mill reality warping and ignore it, when the way it's worded makes it seem otherwise. Besides, I've seen vaguer.
9) Agreed
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@Cal
Btw, just real quick does my comment on Arceus and the CT doing casual physical, mental and spiritual destruction make sense? Kaltias seems okay with it.
Btw, just real quick does my comment on Arceus and the CT doing casual physical, mental and spiritual destruction make sense? Kaltias seems okay with it.
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1)I mean, the point is that their relationship with their respective concept seems like "this dies when I do". Not "I won't die until this does"
Take Dialga for example. If its heart stopped beating, time wouldn't flow anymore. So basically, time is Dialga's blood for analogy purpose.
While it's true that "as long as i'm alive my blood flows trough the body" it isn't true that as long as the blood is flowing you can't die.
5) Yeah I know. But I don't know how to classify it
1)I mean, the point is that their relationship with their respective concept seems like "this dies when I do". Not "I won't die until this does"
Take Dialga for example. If its heart stopped beating, time wouldn't flow anymore. So basically, time is Dialga's blood for analogy purpose.
While it's true that "as long as i'm alive my blood flows trough the body" it isn't true that as long as the blood is flowing you can't die.
5) Yeah I know. But I don't know how to classify it
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Kaltias said:
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To be fair, time already doesnt flow in the distortion world so part of this shouldnt be true.
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i think kukui is talking about the moment in the film when giratina brings dialga to the distortion worldKaltias said:
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I just went by the name, dude.
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>To be fair, time already doesnt flow in the distortion world so part of this shouldnt be true.
My dyde don't make me grab the like 10 screencap I have proving that not to be the case. Ya best drop that before we go into distortion world 2: the electric awakening co starring Newton 2015 edition.
My dyde don't make me grab the like 10 screencap I have proving that not to be the case. Ya best drop that before we go into distortion world 2: the electric awakening co starring Newton 2015 edition.
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Sheer Cold's original name is Absolute Zero.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sheer_Cold_(move)
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sheer_Cold_(move)
| Games | Description |
|---|---|
| RSE | A chilling attack that causes fainting if it hits. |
| FRLG | The foe is attacked with ultimate cold that causes fainting if it hits. |
| Colo. XD | A chilling attack that causes fainting if it hits. |
| DPPtHGSS PBR | The foe is attacked with a blast of absolute-zero cold. The foe instantly faints if it hits. |
| BWB2W2 | The target is attacked with a blast of absolute-zero cold. The target instantly faints if it hits. |
| XYORAS | The target is attacked with a blast of absolute-zero cold. The target faints instantly if this attack hits. |
| SM | The target faints instantly. It's less likely to hit the target if it's used by Pokémon other than Ice types. |
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Neo already proved the distortion and reverse worlds arent the same anyway so this doesnt matter.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Resistant to zero-absolute attacks sounds good.
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I don't think so. Unless it can be used with Sheer Cold. Then only Sheer Cold versions are.Kaltias said:
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@dragon yes, subzero slammer can be used with sheer cold, but it's not an OHKO
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@Kal. Wouldn't the theory-warping be treated similar to Yggdrasil's reformatting?
@Kal. Wouldn't the theory-warping be treated similar to Yggdrasil's reformatting?
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How is reformat Theory Warping?The real cal howard said:
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Both revolve around changing ideas/concepts.
Reformatting the idea of someone/something is changing its concept. Changing the ideas of the universe is changing its concepts.
Reformatting the idea of someone/something is changing its concept. Changing the ideas of the universe is changing its concepts.
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This would be more similar to the Adventure TRI Reboot. which would serve to erase the concept of Infected Digimon, but proved flawed against it just to follow Yggdrasil's willingness to bring all Digimon back to life :v
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Reformat is more of High level Information Manpulation + Power Null/Removal.The real cal howard said:
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High level information manipulation is conceptual manipulation, bro XD.
(No, I'm not saying change Ygg's thing to conceptual manipulation. Just saying that the page for info manipulation correlates high level of it to concept manipulation)
(No, I'm not saying change Ygg's thing to conceptual manipulation. Just saying that the page for info manipulation correlates high level of it to concept manipulation)
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Right, I almost forgot about my main point. Thanks for reminding me.
Anyway, yes. Being nothingness should grant that kind of regen. Anything under Mid-Godly shouldn't affect you, as your body isn't made of things that would be affected (ex: destroying your atoms wouldn't matter as your physical form was made from literally nothing) and erasing to nothingness, ergo requiring Mid-Godly regen, shouldn't matter to someone who is that.
Anyway, yes. Being nothingness should grant that kind of regen. Anything under Mid-Godly shouldn't affect you, as your body isn't made of things that would be affected (ex: destroying your atoms wouldn't matter as your physical form was made from literally nothing) and erasing to nothingness, ergo requiring Mid-Godly regen, shouldn't matter to someone who is that.
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I mean, its pretty vague from the start.
Dont get me wrong, if there was another source explaining that the egg was born from chaos/nothingness, I'd gladly support the whole Arceus being made of said substance and therefore Mid godly regen on the spot.
However, its too vague for an actual upgrade, I believe.
Dont get me wrong, if there was another source explaining that the egg was born from chaos/nothingness, I'd gladly support the whole Arceus being made of said substance and therefore Mid godly regen on the spot.
However, its too vague for an actual upgrade, I believe.
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DodoNova2 said:
Reading this is fun since nothing is an important topic in this discussion OvO
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@PaChi. I mean...there's the Sm4sh trophy...
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I put the 3 dots there for a reason. They're basically me saying "but..." I knew it was pushing it.
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I can agree on waiting for the remakes too.
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