Solid Snake vs Pikachu

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Dude, this is you thinking these things will even kill Pikachu. Pikachu has higher durability than Snake, Town Level, it's gonna take a very strong bomb to kill him, these weapons will only injure Pikachu at worst, at which point he can counterattack and win. Snake has nothing that can beat Pikachu's durability.

Exept Chaff Grenades are not supposed to kill pikachu.

Chaff grenades are basically High-Potency EMPs, which were able to disable Metal Gear REX and RAY for a while.

Also, Flash and Stun Grenades might knock Pikachu out-cold, or at least confuse him long enough for Snake to CQC him into oblivion.


If we are using a composite Snake, then the Railgun, the Bombs he used to DESINTEGRATE Metal Gear 1, Sniper Rifle, etc would give him the edge over Pikachu.

Snake has WAY more options than Pikachu.

 

[Aparajita]

Snake has his m22 with a silencer.

One shot, and he is down.

What pistol does Snake have that's Town level in DC? I'd really like to see it.

Certainly not his 9mm.

 

[Aldrecht]

I dont think a clear winner can be derived from the stats given. Pikachus speed hasnt been calced yet meaning that all we can go off of is the durability and attack potency, both of which are roughly the same. In this battle its really gonna go down to whoever hits first. And without the speed comparison we dont know who that is.

 

[Aparajita]

I dont think a clear winner can be derived from the stats given. Pikachus speed hasnt been calced yet meaning that all we can go off of is the durability and attack potency, both of which are roughly the same. In this battle its really gonna go down to whoever hits first. And without the speed comparison we dont know who that is.

So, what, you'd vote inconclusive (not enough information given)?

 

[Yamatohime]

Funny and no-speed difference info make it inconclusive.

 

[Aldrecht]

I dont think a clear winner can be derived from the stats given. Pikachus speed hasnt been calced yet meaning that all we can go off of is the durability and attack potency, both of which are roughly the same. In this battle its really gonna go down to whoever hits first. And without the speed comparison we dont know who that is.

So, what, you'd vote inconclusive (not enough information given)?

Yeah.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Dude, this is you thinking these things will even kill Pikachu. Pikachu has higher durability than Snake, Town Level, it's gonna take a very strong bomb to kill him, these weapons will only injure Pikachu at worst, at which point he can counterattack and win. Snake has nothing that can beat Pikachu's durability.

Exept Chaff Grenades are not supposed to kill pikachu.
Chaff grenades are basically High-Potency EMPs, which were able to disable Metal Gear REX and RAY for a while.

Also, Flash and Stun Grenades might knock Pikachu out-cold, or at least confuse him long enough for Snake to CQC him into oblivion.


If we are using a composite Snake, then the Railgun, the Bombs he used to DESINTEGRATE Metal Gear 1, Sniper Rifle, etc would give him the edge over Pikachu.

Snake has WAY more options than Pikachu.

Pikachu has a lot of moves to destroy. He could blitz with Agilty and Quick Attack, paralyze with thunder wave, volt tackle, iron tail, thunder/bolt/shock, etc.. If he has Pichu's moves, then even more.

A composite Pikachu would know Surf, which would drown Snake and if not, succeed where Vokgin failed with Big Boss.

All of those things Pikachu could dodge.

Pikachu has electric powers, but he's not a machine. EMP's won't disable lightning, and even if it could, Iron tail blitz after an Agility.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

And the millisecond Snake touches Pikachu

"Pika Pika... CHUUU!

Even confused, that's Pikachu's main defence. See episode 1 of Pokemon. Yes, the first episode ever.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Pikachu has a lot of moves to destroy. He could blitz with Agilty and Quick Attack, paralyze with thunder wave, volt tackle, iron tail, thunder/bolt/shock, etc.. If he has Pichu's moves, then even more.

Well, but Snake still has the intelligence and the stealth advantage, ya know?

A composite Pikachu would know Surf, which would drown Snake and if not, succeed where Vokgin failed with Big Boss.

(But...Snake knows how to swim....)

All of those things Pikachu could dodge.

IF he detects Snake.

Pikachu has electric powers, but he's not a machine. EMP's won't disable lightning, and even if it could, Iron tail blitz after an Agility.

Huh, fair point.

But that still wouldn´t make him vulnerable to stun grenades.

Those do knock out Genome Soldiers for a few seconds.

Long enough for Snake to put him on a cage.

And the millisecond Snake touches Pikachu

"Pika Pika... CHUUU!"

(He...actually did quote it...)

Even confused, that's Pikachu's main defence. See episode 1 of Pokemon. Yes, the first episode ever.

Well, CQC is optional, ya know.

He can end this with a tranquilizer dart, or with the tranquilizer Sniper Rifle from MGS2.

Or any other weapon really.

But it highly depends if Snake is discovered or not.

(Which, Pikachu wouldn´t, as he doesnt have the senses of the highly genetically augmented Genome Soldiers.)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Not gonna lie, your post made me smile in a good, wholehearted, non-sarcastic way, and you make really good points. But stealth can be negated by lighting up the room, figuratively and literally. I'll give intelligence to Snake by a long shot, but he's never dealt with something even remotely similar to Pikachu before (you could say that about all fighters on battle boards, but in Snake's case, he's fighting a speedy mouse when he's normally against...er...humans? Humans. Whatever TF Psycho Mantis is... Which his training doesn't account for). Yeah, sure he fought electric entities before, and speedy entities before, but never a small electric speedy entity that has a totally different fighting style than any human(made) thing.

Could Snake swim after being doused by a tidal wave and then subsequently shocked and rinse wash repeat?

Another thing: How do stun grenades work IRL? Are they just flashbangs? If not, Pikachu has resistance to stunning, being a master of paralysis himself. If so, Is it actual light? If so, that would work if Pikachu doesn't hear it hit the ground and has a small possibility of getting away. If it's not, Pikachu could probably outrun the blast. Heck, Pikachu can use Flash in the manga, so he might be immune to Flashbangs. And remember, if Pikachu sees Snake once, which is highly likely as only one weapon (2 if you count the different tranqs, 3 if you count stun grenades) has a chance of putting him down, and not for good, especially seeing how he has experience with knockout attacks. I'm digressing. If Pikachu sees Snake once, he's not gonna have another chance to escape. Pikachu will be on his tail and blitz after agility.

I completely forgot to bring up Double Team. I'm gonna keep it short. Use it to confuse Snake, and if Snake chooses the wrong Pikachu to target, then Pikachu knows where the attack is from and, you know the quote.

 

[Yojimbo1989]

Not gonna lie, your post made me smile in a good, wholehearted, non-sarcastic way, and you make really good points. But stealth can be negated by lighting up the room, figuratively and literally. I'll give intelligence to Snake by a long shot, but he's never dealt with something even remotely similar to Pikachu before (you could say that about all fighters on battle boards, but in Snake's case, he's fighting a speedy mouse when he's normally against...er...humans? Humans. Whatever TF Psycho Mantis is... Which his training doesn't account for). Yeah, sure he fought electric entities before, and speedy entities before, but never a small electric speedy entity that has a totally different fighting style than any human(made) thing.
Could Snake swim after being doused by a tidal wave and then subsequently shocked and rinse wash repeat?

Another thing: How do stun grenades work IRL? Are they just flashbangs? If not, Pikachu has resistance to stunning, being a master of paralysis himself. If so, Is it actual light? If so, that would work if Pikachu doesn't hear it hit the ground and has a small possibility of getting away. If it's not, Pikachu could probably outrun the blast. Heck, Pikachu can use Flash in the manga, so he might be immune to Flashbangs. And remember, if Pikachu sees Snake once, which is highly likely as only one weapon (2 if you count the different tranqs, 3 if you count stun grenades) has a chance of putting him down, and not for good, especially seeing how he has experience with knockout attacks. I'm digressing. If Pikachu sees Snake once, he's not gonna have another chance to escape. Pikachu will be on his tail and blitz after agility.

I completely forgot to bring up Double Team. I'm gonna keep it short. Use it to confuse Snake, and if Snake chooses the wrong Pikachu to target, then Pikachu knows where the attack is from and, you know the quote.

True Snake has never fought against anything like Pikachu, however the same is true of Pikachu, meaning that when it comes to two opponents who are equally matched in terms of stats a lot of it will come down to who has the most experience and who can adapt the best to changing situations. While both might be equal in terms of experience Snake gets two extra points for being on his own most for much more than Pikachu and for having greater intellect and improvisation skills (the fact that he was able to destroy a tank with only grenades should speak for itself).

As for Snake being able to survive being drowned and then shocked, I would say the answer to both questions is yes. Recall in MGS2 Snake jumped off of Arsenal Gear which is at minimum 300 feet high into the sea (the most that a normal human can endure without breaking a bone is 90 ft), outswam a giant Metal Gear RAY, placed a tracker on the robot, swam miles back to shore and made it to the Federal Hall all in the time it took Raiden to beat Solidus and he didn't even break a sweat. He also escaped a sinking tanker under attack from MG RAY.

As for surviving shocks while soaked, remember in MGS3 that Big Boss (who Snake was cloned from) survived torture from Volgin, whose body carried a voltage of 10 million volts, while soaking wet . More impressive is that he did this after having received a brutal beating from Volgi who possesed enough strength to punch through the Shagohod tank , which a RPG round couldn't so much as dent.(2:40)

Yes the stun grenades are flashbangs

Now as for Snake being unable to escape Pikachu once Pikachu sees him, I don't think that's true since Snake is a master at vanishing in plain sight. Also he could cover his escape by using explosives or smoke grenades to attack Pikachu and distract him long enough to vanish. Pikachu wouldn't be able to blitz Snake since has evaded electrical discharges and has beaten lightning timers before, and Pikachu's blasts have been dodged by Ash before, if Ash can do it I see no reason why Snake can't.

Now a major point which is the inconsistency between the games and the anime. In the anime double team splits the user into copies, whereas in the games it just raises evasion. Also the double team in the anime is said to weaken the defense of the real one. Another thing to mention is what Pikachu are we using? Because Ash's Pikachu to my knowledge has never used double team, in that case which Pikachu are we using? If Snake did come across double team then he'd probably just resort to attacking all of them with heavy weapons, and in that case is the lower defense rule in effect. Yet another thing to mention is whether or not the so called effects of the moves would work on Snake, since Snake is not a pokemon.

Ultimately a lot of this fight is very specific on the conditions, it depends a lot on the environment since this effects Snake's stealth and also which specific weapons Snake has with him. And what Pikachu are we using? Since it's impossible to scale Pokemon off of each other's feats since each Pokemon's power varies according to training.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm only saying blitz because of Agility and maybe quick attack after agility.

For double team, I'm pretty sure it's the splitting (even if it was evasion, it would be helpful)

Composite Pikachu. Manga, Games, and Anime feats allowed as long as they're not contradictory.

While yeah, the water thing is impressive, I'm not sure that he'll be capable of taking tidal wave after tidal wave and being shocked over and over.

Ash is actually quite superhuman believe it or not (capable of lifting Larvitars, taking volts of electricity and fire hot enough to melt rock lol). And team rocket has been surviving things that should've killed them since their debut almost 20 years ago.

The thing is, Pikachu has fought humanoid creatures with speed comarable to Snake (the Hitmon evolution branch, the Machop evolution line, other fighting types)

Pikachu and his clones would be capable of dodging explosives.

For Pikachu's improvisation... "Aim for the horn, Pikachu!" -Ash when talking to Pikachu while fighting a Rhydon.

Pikachu has experience with Smokescreeens, as that was all James' Weezing was good for.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

I'm only saying blitz because of Agility and maybe quick attack after agility.

Yeah, but you know, Pikachu has no means to discover Snake. Not even with light.

He can always use Octo-Camo to fool Pikachu. (It fooled even the Geckos, who were the most radical and effective thing back then.)

For double team, I'm pretty sure it's the splitting (even if it was evasion, it would be helpful)

Pikachu never used Double Team on the anime, and evasion isn´t going to help Pikachu if Snake shoots him while he is hidden on or his back.

Composite Pikachu. Manga, Games, and Anime feats allowed as long as they're not contradictory.

Oh...Alright then. Ignore the Pikachu not using Double Team thing in the anime, but the second point is still valid-

While yeah, the water thing is impressive, I'm not sure that he'll be capable of taking tidal wave after tidal wave and being shocked over and over.

Big Boss threw himself to a ragin river after being tortured by Volgin, got his ass handed to him by The Boss, being shot at by the ocelots, etc.

Ash is actually quite superhuman believe it or not (capable of lifting Larvitars, taking volts of electricity and fire hot enough to melt rock lol). And team rocket has been surviving things that should've killed them since their debut almost 20 years ago.

Indeed, but Ash isn´t a clone of Big Boss with an IQ of 170 and Special Training.

The thing is, Pikachu has fought humanoid creatures with speed comarable to Snake (the Hitmon evolution branch, the Machop evolution line, other fighting types)

Yeah, but they were mostly dumb and weak when you compare them to Snake.

Pikachu and his clones would be capable of dodging explosives.

For Pikachu's improvisation... "Aim for the horn, Pikachu!" -Ash when talking to Pikachu while fighting a Rhydon.

He...did hit the horn.

Pikachu has experience with Smokescreeens, as that was all James' Weezing was good for.

He still can´t see thru them.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'll give you the octo camo, as I think that's the inviso-thing, but Pikachu could still get frustrated and use an omnidirectional attack, like Thunder Wave or Discharge (game version).

Okay. I'll concede with the water method, but it can be used to flush out Snake as another option.

Furthermore, Snake can only knock out Pikachu because of Pikachu's superior durability.

I was just stating that while Snake's not used to fighting things that are that small, the vice versa can't be said.

But Team Rocket has training (at least when gen 5 hits), and Pikachu owns them easily. And Meowth is pretty smart. He builds robots on the daily.

Pikachu has some defensive moves to prevent being shot at, like Light Screen.

Look at this and click on Pika and/or on Ash's Pikachu to see all of the non game main Pikachu's moves

Flash can be used to get rid of the Smokescreen, or to light it up (a Pikachu used it in the manga)

 

[Yojimbo1989]

I'll give you the octo camo, as I think that's the inviso-thing, but Pikachu could still get frustrated and use an omnidirectional attack, like Thunder Wave or Discharge (game version).
Okay. I'll concede with the water method, but it can be used to flush out Snake as another option.

Furthermore, Snake can only knock out Pikachu because of Pikachu's superior durability.

I was just stating that while Snake's not used to fighting things that are that small, the vice versa can't be said.

But Team Rocket has training (at least when gen 5 hits), and Pikachu owns them easily. And Meowth is pretty smart. He builds robots on the daily.

Pikachu has some defensive moves to prevent being shot at, like Light Screen.

Look at this and click on Pika and/or on Ash's Pikachu to see all of the non game main Pikachu's moves

Flash can be used to get rid of the Smokescreen, or to light it up (a Pikachu used it in the manga)

Again there's the fact that Snake has dealt with electricity before and whether or not paralysis would work on Snake, since Snake is not a pokemon.

Regarding Pikachu's durabilty, does Pikachu have superior durability? Pikachu is an incredibly inconsistent character when it comes to durability, being able to defeat legendary, or pseudo legendary pokemon in one episode only to be defeated by much weaker pokemon the very next. Defeating Dragonite in one episode, only to be beaten by an Eevee in the next, defeating a Metagross one episode only to be beaten by an Elekid another time, and so on. There are so many contradictions in terms of Pikachu's durability I would go so far as to say it is impossible to define Pikachu's durability.

Snake has actually fought small opponents before, namely the dwarf Gekko, who were about the same size as Pikachu. As for something small and speedy, I agree Snake has never fought someone like that but I wouldn't say it's something he wouldnt be able to deal with.

Team Rocket have only displayed competence in the 5 series, in all others they've been shown to be completely incompetent and foolish. In fact by the end of the Best Wishes series they'd already returned to they're old ways and are now the same as ever. Plus even at their best Team Rocket haven't really showed anywhere near the level of skill that Snake has, taking on 20 heavily armed men and beating them with CQC for instance.

Like I've said a lot of this is very specific, but I just think that eventually Snake would adapt to and outsmart Pikachu.

Oh and as for the Rhydon horn bit, again that was more down to Ash, since Pikachu wouldn't have done that if not for Ash mentioning it

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The note on the Pokemon page says we take them at their best. Pokemon is a pain to scale, so we have to. Besides, we don't take low ends. Otherwise, Goku is laser level.

Paralysis would work as it worked on Ash before. Plus, we don't do that "he doesn't have ki/chakra/haki/etc" thing here (he's not a pokemon falls into that category). It's a new rule that's been an unspoken one.

Pikachu could always do that spinning thunderbolt to keep Snake at bay.

They're the same now? Phew. I didn't like secret agent Jessie and James.

Pikachu has picked up a thing or two from Ash though. It's unreasonable to assume that he didn't, and remember: composite Pikachu. It's Ash's, Red's, Yellow's, Ritchie's, etc. melded into one, for lack of a better phrase.

I agree that he'll be able to eventually deal with Pikachu, if Pikachu doesn't take him out first. I don't believe that Pikachu wins with ease, as a matter of fact, this is the closest match I've debated in ever aside from Kirby vs Vegito, which is now a stomp in the former's favor. But I digress. I still believe that Pikachu would flush out Snake and take him out due to better powers, paralysis effect, and potentially superior speed.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

The note on the Pokemon page says we take them at their best. Pokemon is a pain to scale, so we have to. Besides, we don't take low ends. Otherwise, Goku is laser level.

Yeah, but, Pika is still a normal animal (to obvious degrees) he would fall asleep with a tranquilizer.

Paralysis would work as it worked on Ash before. Plus, we don't do that "he doesn't have ki/chakra/haki/etc" thing here (he's not a pokemon falls into that category). It's a new rule that's been an unspoken one.

Pikachu could always do that spinning thunderbolt to keep Snake at bay.

Again, that would only be effective if Snake is discovered by Pikachu.

Which would only apply to round 1.

They're the same now? Phew. I didn't like secret agent Jessie and James.

Pikachu has picked up a thing or two from Ash though. It's unreasonable to assume that he didn't, and remember: composite Pikachu. It's Ash's, Red's, Yellow's, Ritchie's, etc. melded into one, for lack of a better phrase.

Yeah, but Pikachu is still vulnerable to Snake´s grenades, stealth, weapons and tactics.

Snake would get hurt badly if he goes for the CQC because of Pikachu´s electric body.

I agree that he'll be able to eventually deal with Pikachu, if Pikachu doesn't take him out first. I don't believe that Pikachu wins with ease, as a matter of fact, this is the closest match I've debated in ever aside from Kirby vs Vegito, which is now a stomp in the former's favor. But I digress. I still believe that Pikachu would flush out Snake and take him out due to better powers, paralysis effect, and potentially superior speed.


I think i can agree with you that Snake would have it very hard against Pikachu if he goes against him on a 1v1.


But, again, Snake would have the upper hand in tactics, stealth, intelligence and takedown methods.

You shouldn´t worry, tho. I bet Mei Ling would take good care of him.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I can't help but laugh. Alright. I concede. Snake wins round 1 with tranqs and stealth. Round 2 is a different story though.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

I can't help but laugh. Alright. I concede. Snake wins round 1 with tranqs and stealth. Round 2 is a different story though.

Alright then.


Round 2 is a coin toss imo.

It depends if Pikachu notices Snake.

But, yet his "killing" weapons are louder and not as "effective" in this scenario as the tranquilizers.

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

Pikachu bodies in Round 1 easily (Nice Brawl Reference BTW) Round 2 depends on if Pikachu notices Snake, if he does, He will murder Snake, but if he doesn't notice, Snake will murder him. Round 1: Pikachu Round 2: Not So Sure

 

[Yamatohime]

Round 1 is probably Pikachi, but Snake could grab Pi as long as he do not provoke Pikachu. After all they're both in character. 55/45 chances for Pi.

Round 2 is probably Snake. Smart planing and traps are nice way to deal with Pi.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Pikachu bodies in Round 1 easily (Nice Brawl Reference BTW)
Round 2 depends on if Pikachu notices Snake, if he does, He will murder Snake, but if he doesn't notice, Snake will murder him. Round 1: Pikachu Round 2: Not So Sure

Round 1 would go to Snake due the effectiveness the tranquilizer has against animals.

If pikachu gets shot by Snake´s M22, he is instantly Mei Ling´s pet.


Round 2 could go either way.

It depends on Pikachu noticing Snake, really.

 

[Yamatohime]

How fast is tranq bolt speed?

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

How fast is tranq bolt speed?

Erm, of course, this is based on the fact that Snake is HIDDEN from Pikachu.

And, even in round 1, we have discussed that Snake has options to scape pikachu if he notices him with Smoke bombs, Flash grenades and Chaffies.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Round 2 I'm still going with the mouse, due to no way of mouse death, but the opposite can be.

Keeping my new opinion on 1.

 

[Yamatohime]

And, even in round 1, we have discussed that Snake has options to scape pikachu if he notices him with Smoke bombs, Flash grenades and Chaffies.

Pi can omni-attack even dibilated. And since Ash is not around...

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

And, even in round 1, we have discussed that Snake has options to scape pikachu if he notices him with Smoke bombs, Flash grenades and Chaffies.

Pi can omni-attack even dibilated. And since Ash is not around...

That gives Snake the edge over Pikachu in intelligence, since Pikachu would be confused as hell without Ash.

Yes, Pikachu might do an omnidirectional attack, but those attacks wouldn´t affect Snake´s octocamo and those omni attacks are not as strong as his direct attacks.

The worst that could happen to Snake is him screaming loud enough for Pikachu to hear him.

 

[Yamatohime]

Omni-attacks are weaker but they still enough to boil tranqs and... That's all. Snake can not be hit or else his tranqs are toast.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Omni-attacks are weaker but they still enough to boil tranqs and... That's all. Snake can not be hit or else his tranqs are toast.

Would those omni-attacks mess up Snake´s gun?

I mean, neither the gun or the tranqs are electric.

The PSG1T Tranquilizer Rifle and the Beretta M9 Pistol are the weapons that could tranquilize Pika, neither of them are "electric based".

 

[Yamatohime]

I always thought that tranqs of Snake are drugs. And they can be compromised by high temps.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

I always thought that tranqs of Snake are drugs. And they can be compromised by high temps.

No...they are normal animal tranquilizers.

And, i don´t see Pikachu being able to increase his temperature to resist a tranquilizer that could take down an elephant.

 

[Yamatohime]

And, i don´t see Pikachu being able to increase his temperature to resist a tranquilizer that could take down an elephant.

He can electrocute tranq bolt and boil tranq inside it.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

And, i don´t see Pikachu being able to increase his temperature to resist a tranquilizer that could take down an elephant.

He can electrocute tranq bolt and boil tranq inside it.

...Come again?

 

[Yamatohime]

Simply school phys, chem and bio. Tranqs are chemicals that can be destroyed by high temperatures or simple electricity. If tranqs in bolts those bolst can be electrocuted and basing on they material: boil tranqs inside or let them be electrocuted.

 

[Pocket-Chu]

I'm gonna go with....Pikachu for both rounds.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Simply school phys, chem and bio. Tranqs are chemicals that can be destroyed by high temperatures or simple electricity. If tranqs in bolts those bolst can be electrocuted and basing on they material: boil tranqs inside or let them be electrocuted.

As i said before, The tranquilizer was shot when Pikachu had no idea Snake was there.

In my opinion, Pikachu, because of his surprise and the aplication of the trqnuilizer itself would be too short time for him to THINK he can fight the materials of a tranquilizer with a very specific Thunder attack.

The "medicine" would already be on his veins!


@Pocket-Chu Why is that?

 

[Yamatohime]

I doubt it's a real problem since Snake is spotted from the start. And Pi is good at tracking enemies.

Round 1.-Morals (Snake tries talking and toying with Pikachu at frist, giving Pika the frist attack, Snake wants to capture him, so only tranquilizer weapons allowed.)

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

I doubt it's a real problem since Snake is spotted from the start. And Pi is good at tracking enemies.

Round 1.-Morals (Snake tries talking and toying with Pikachu at frist, giving Pika the frist attack, Snake wants to capture him, so only tranquilizer weapons allowed.)

(Shimatta...!)


Well, i also described the fact Snake has various methods of hiding, even if he is seen.

Like his grenades, octo-camo or his sheer natural skill at hiding and fooling his enemies.

There are a lot more details on Yojimbo1989´s posts...

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

So...Snake wins, right?

 

[Ddcbryant]

PAKCHUUUU WINS THUNDER WAVE!!!