So why is Cell's range MULTI UNIVERSAL...

[AquaWaifu]

Instantenous Movement means multi universal range what?

 

[Blanked]

Goku's instant transmission he stole that ability, if that's what it means instantaneous movement.

 

[Reppuzan]

It should be specified that it's teleportation and not his normal attacks then.

 

[Blanked]

^Not sure if he can do it differently since I don't remember what he said when he explained it,but teleportation is for 99% sure.

 

[Promestein]

It does specify that.

 

[Blanked]

^than problem solved i guess. Right?

 

[Reppuzan]

But I'm curious, what feat does Goku have that puts his Instant Transmission at Multi-Universal? Did he travel to Hell with it?

 

[Promestein]

He traveled to Other World. Cell also traveled from King Kai's planet to Earth.

 

[AquaWaifu]

and thats multi universal how?


arent they all part of the same universe?

 

[Reppuzan]

Just going to add that then.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

That's more so interdimensionsal though than multi-universal, goku hasn't used IT yet to go to a different universe.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

and thats multi universal how?


arent they all part of the same universe?

I believe they only share the same time not space

 

[AquaWaifu]

@LordGriffin


but we cant take that to mean it is multi universal, that is a massive jump in range.

 

[Joseph619]

Goku has never travelled to another universe, other world and kaioshin realm are pocket dimension in Universe 7. Multi-universe range should be removed for Cell, Goku and Buu

 

[Blanked]

^I agree after all his longest movement was from Beerus's planet to earth.

Sure it's stated he can go anywhere if he can sense ki,but that was still his max journey.

 

[RadicalMrR]

Goku has never travelled to another universe, other world and kaioshin realm are pocket dimension in Universe 7. Multi-universe range should be removed for Cell, Goku and Buu

Thats still Multi-universe range.

 

[Joseph619]

Goku has never travelled to another universe, other world and kaioshin realm are pocket dimension in Universe 7. Multi-universe range should be removed for Cell, Goku and Buu

Thats still Multi-universe range.

Pocket dimensions are not separate universe. Yhwach and Kaguya don't have multi-universal range (Kaguya can teleport to 5 different dimensions)

 

[RadicalMrR]

If they share the same space-time continuum than they arent, if they dont share the same space-time they are.

 

[Joseph619]

If they share the same space-time continuum than they arent, if they dont share the same space-time they are.

Ok, then please change Kaguya and Yhwach range to multi-universal. Soul Society and Human World are completely separate space-time continuum. Or should I make a content revision thread about it?

 

[RadicalMrR]

I dont know why those arent multi-universal. I wasnt there for those threads(if anyone even made one about it).

If someone can be High 3-A from creating a pocket dimension big enough which requires 4-D power it makes no sense to me that their range wouldnt be 4-D in nature as well.

BTW, chill out dude.

 

[Joseph619]

Lol I am chill man, just trying to be consistent for all the verses here hahaha. I will possibly make a thread tonight or tomorrow.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That does bring up a good question. Goku has trouble IT'ing from Beerus' digs to and from his own. Yet he can make cross universal journeys effortlessly?

 

[AquaWaifu]

Man good thing I notice dumb weird crap like this on pages.

 

[The_Everlasting]

That does bring up a good question. Goku has trouble IT'ing from Beerus' digs to and from his own. Yet he can make cross universal journeys effortlessly?

Typical DB hiccups.

Remember Krillin getting hurt by a bullet?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Well it could just be another inconsistency

 

[AquaWaifu]

@The Everlasting


ki.


its like his ki makes him durable.

 

[Reppuzan]

I'm just curious if it still counts as cross-universal travel when Super redefined the definition of universe in Dragon Ball.

Of course, I haven't been following Super that closely, so feel free to correct me.

 

[Joseph619]

I'm just curious if it still counts as cross-universal travel when Super redefined the definition of universe in Dragon Ball.
Of course, I haven't been following Super that closely, so feel free to correct me.

Nope, other world and kaioshin realm are all part of universe 7. So even by Super's definition, it's not multi-universal.

 

[Antvasima]

Perhaps we should change the range statistics to "Universal (via teleportation)" instead then?

 

[SSJRyu1]

To specify other world and kai realm are located outside the Universe, and in the daizanshuu and anime it's stated that other world is about as large as the living world (which includes the Universe, demon realm, ROSAT etc). So multi-Universal range would be accurate for IT still. The only stipulation that should be mentioned is that there must be a ki signature to lock onto in order to use IT, and the further away the location the harder it is to sense the ki signatures. Although Buu has supreme kais version which does not require ki, so he would not have that stipulation.

 

[Beerus1000]

i agree for universal range also

 

[Joseph619]

To specify other world and kai realm are located outside the Universe, and in the daizanshuu and anime it's stated that other world is about as large as the living world (which includes the Universe, demon realm, ROSAT etc). So multi-Universal range would be accurate for IT still. The only stipulation that should be mentioned is that there must be a ki signature to lock onto in order to use IT, and the further away the location the harder it is to sense the ki signatures. Although Buu has supreme kais version which does not require ki, so he would not have that stipulation.

Nope, everything is part of Universe 7. Otherworld is not a separate universe, it's a pocket dimension.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Guys.

Multi-Universal is absolutely correct.

Remember the DB Universe 7 is actually a macroverse.

The Other world and hell have been stated to be as big as the regular one.

thus, teleporting to the other world is multi universal in our tiering.

 

[Joseph619]

Guys.
Multi-Universal is absolutely correct.

Remember the DB Universe 7 is actually a macroverse.

The Other world and hell have been stated to be as big as the regular one.

thus, teleporting to the other world is multi universal in our tiering.

If other world is part of universe 7, it's still a SINGLE universe. There's no such thing as macroverse on this wiki if I am not mistaken.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Well, there is now.

Universe 7 is composed of three different parts of the same size. the underworld, "heaven" and the physical universe.

They share time but not space.

So, Goku still traveled the equivalent of at least 2 universes.

 

[Joseph619]

Well, there is now.
Universe 7 is composed of three different parts of the same size. the underworld, "heaven" and the physical universe.

They share time but not space.

So, Goku still traveled the equivalent of at least 2 universes.

Goku travelled equivalent of 1 universe. Everything inside Universe 7 is a single Universe. Pocket dimensions are not universe. Macrocosm is not a valid term here.

This is universe 7, you don't see the pocket dimensions here do you? Since when dimensions inside a single universe became separate universe themselves?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Goku travelled equivalent of 1 universe. Everything inside Universe 7 is a single Universe. Pocket dimensions are not universe. Macrocosm is not a valid term here.

This is universe 7, you don't see the pocket dimensions here do you? Since when dimensions inside a single universe became separate universe themselves?

No the guide books say that the parts are as big as a univeres the other world being bigger then our universe.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I object to this.

The daizenshuu has already made an official illustration of the DB Universe. (before the whole 12 universes was a thing)

So, the feat in question is based on that map.

You cant change the canon at your convenience!

 

[Miles_Romero12]

(does anybody remember how is that map called? cant find it on the gallery.)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Don't quote large blocks of text, please. Also, seems we only use guidebooks when convenient...