So the Human Torches Durability......

[Celestial_Judge]

So I happened to come across the Human Torch's and noticed his feats. I think his both his Ap and Durability is questionable however I want to focus on his Durability.

Right now his current durability is Small a building level which is border line insulting. (Not to offend anyone)

I will now list MULTIPLE durability feats that will easily show he deserves better.

Tanks a punch from Annihulus https://m.imgur.com/v6tuCAH

Tanks hit from terrax with cosmic twice https://m.imgur.com/6KaUV8b https://m.imgur.com/OP5UCtr

Tanks hit from termius https://m.imgur.com/b4eOqdX

Tanks hits from Skrulls with the things strength https://m.imgur.com/n6uWLtZ https://m.imgur.com/z1JbCVf

Tanks hit from Namor who's bloodlusted and trying to kill him https://m.imgur.com/a/16iFI

Tanks a hit from Gladiator https://m.imgur.com/GsprTgi

I could list more but I'm on a cellphone and copying and pasting on a cellular device is hell on here. However I think this is more than enough proof to show that these are not just outliers but he can actually take hits.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Small building**

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Look at mah thread.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Bump

 

[Celestial_Judge]

BUMP

 

[Antvasima]

It is best if you ask Matthew to comment here regarding what durability level that he should have.

On the one hand your examples make some sense, on the other it seems strange to rate his regular durability as far higher than Captain America for example.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think that the Human Torch is severely underestimated physically. He's clearly superhuman while under Fire Form, not just in speed but all stats.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

I was gonna do a complete revision including speed and ap but my laptop is in a completely different city. So I thought I'd knock out the easiest one first.

The Human Torch has shown on numerous occasions he has way better destructive capacity. He has more feats than the ones I posted but again on a cellphone the copying and pasting is weird.

Hopefully we get more opinions.

Also, regarding the Captain America comment, I know in comic books sometimes writers use strong characters to make other characters look better.

Like the walking PIS that is Batman.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. So what statistics should we upgrade Torch to?

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Are you asking Matthew or me?

 

[Antvasima]

Matthew, but you can also come with suggestions.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

All those people I listed are or above planet level. So I would easily say planet to small planet level.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I would appreciate if you remind Matthew to comment here. There have been problems wifh the thread subscriptions lately.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

He'd be Planet level durability only as Supernova. But that I am fine with.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that is fine then.

 

[Antvasima]

Although his supernova/nova flame is just his maximum energy output. His durability should always be the same in flame form.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Yeah we're talking about durability....