Slight Triforce downgrade

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Alright, this was agreed by staff including Azathoth and Matt a while back, but no one ever got around to it till now.

Given our new standards for Pocket Reality Feats, we don't use inverse square law of the explosion unless there's more elaborate reason for it. While it's true Sacred Realm portrays the planet as being the center with sun being "The Edge", we don't really use explosion formula just because the sun circles the Earth Greek Mythology style.

However, it is lowballed at Earth to Sun radius in size, meaning High 4-C is fairly reasonable. And since the size is lowballed, due to the fact that there are plenty out there who believe it to be Universe sized it is still reasonable to have an "At least".

Anyway, 4-B needs to go for now, but At least High 4-C is fine. Ganondorf's already taken care of, but the Triforce profile and several versions of Link need an update.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

agree

 

[TriforcePower1]

I'm more like wondering if Earth being at the center upgrades the Triforce's AP to a higher degree to High 4-C than it was before. Otherwise, we would literally need a chain scaling of Zant>>Midna with small part of the power of Fused Shadow>>FS Midna>>Ganondorf with ToP>Ganon with ToP>Yuganon with ToP>Yuganon with ToP and ToW>>>Full Triforce or maybe even a longer chain.

lol

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It would work that way if they exploded it from Earth's location being the epic center, but it's a spherical space with a 1 AU radius and 2 AU diameter. And moving the Sun around the Earth would just be 4-C; however, the size alone is still in the roughly 8 Foe range. But I'd rather not here Matt or Azzy say something about guess work Supernova formula.

 

[Dust_Collector]

We'll make it 4-B via a massive chain ovo

But yeah if we don't use inverse square law for this stuff then I agree with all the 4-Bs being at least High 4-C.

 

[TriforcePower1]

We'll make it 4-B via a massive chain ovo

Uhm, actually, assuming the three Triforces pieces are more or less equal in power, it would actually reach 4-B. Zant's feat alone is actually 8 FoE, even completely ignoring the chain of scaling from Zant to Ganondorf and assuming ToP and Triforce pieces are 8FoE like Zant, the 3 pieces together would be 24 Foe, or 4-B, as baseline starts at 22 FoE.

Uh, what do we do? We just keep them at High 4-C saying Full Triforce is less than x3 stronger than Zant, allow the full Tier jump to 4-B or should we make "At least High 4-C, likely 4-B"? I'd go for the latter honestly.

 

[Dust_Collector]

8 foe would be for creating or destroying a pocket realm, Zant just warps an already existing one so I'm not sure if we can apply the 8 foe to his feat.

 

[TriforcePower1]

I think it was agreed he created one? Those revisions were hell.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Nah it was agreed that he just warped the Twilight Realm.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm pretty sure people are still iffy about the feat though, but we Azathoth wasn't there which made it harder to argue against. But anyway, it was only agree that Zant warped the pocket reality and not create or destroy it. PLus it's "At least 5-A, possibly High 4-C" where as Complete Triforce is "At least High 4-C".

 

[TriforcePower1]

Yes, but we would end up having ToP Ganondorf>Full Triforce if we don't consider Zant's feat for the Triforce's tier.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

We won't, Complete Triforce is easily well above ToP Ganon, that's why he has the At least. It would still be above 8 foe but to an unknown extent.