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We should fast track this, we're taking too much time for something so simple.
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Should we split up vegetas profile?
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I agree with the profile split, even some of his individual keys are cluttered; though, same thing could be said for plenty of Saiyan characters in Dragon Ball. But I think a DBZ and DBS split would be a good idea.
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That profile looks quite good.
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Thank you.
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Uh, I guess I could combine the RoF Saga and U6 Saga keys. I think the others should all definitely be separate though.
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IIRC, Vegeta is only Low 2-C in the ToP after achieving SSJBE. I don't think his normal SSJB scales to that, but I might be wrong on that
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He doesn't need more than 4 keys. We can share his RoF and Universe 6 keys, and also merge his Future Trunks and Universe Survival keys. Then SSJBE and then Broly saga, where his normal SSJB scales to Low 2-C
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I disagree, Vegeta Blue was doing way too well against Jiren to not be Low 2-C. I don't see why you'd merge the Future Trunks and Universe Survival keys, as Vegeta clearly got much stronger in between those arcs. Even if you don't think he's Low 2-C, he trained in the RoSaT before the ToP and was performing much better than SSBKKx20 Goku was against Jiren.
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What about splitting the keys just we do on Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super)'s profile?
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I'm aware of that. That just shows Vegeta Blue isn't quite UIO level, as Goku Blue at that point either equaled or surpassed UIO1 Goku.
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I agree: he got much stronger. But Vegeta never fought the "showing a hint of true power" Jiren using SSJB, only Goku did and SSJB Vegeta never fought alongside or was comparable to that Goku. The Low 2-C feat comes from fighting Jiren, who had finally unleashed a hint of his true power, and Vegeta only fought that Jiren using SSJBE. That's why I think we can merge his keys, using good feats. But if the mods/majority here thinks that he needs a separate ToP key, I'm ok with that too.
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Jiren while heavily suppressed, when he deflected the Spirit Bomb, was still Low 2-C. Vegeta should be somewhat around that Jiren. And really, SSB Goku was just fighting a less suppressed Jiren at that point. When Jiren scared him out of Blue, that was hint of true power Jiren.
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You can create a CRT about that.
I don't remember much of the order of the fights in the ToP, only that Goku fighting that Jiren is the justification for his Low 2-C rating at that point.
I don't remember much of the order of the fights in the ToP, only that Goku fighting that Jiren is the justification for his Low 2-C rating at that point.
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Yes, that's for Goku's Low 2-C SSB rating. Jiren himself is Low 2-C all around, as even heavily suppressed Jiren was stronger than Infinite Zamasu. Vegeta Blue driving back a heavily suppressed Jiren (who was albeit using less strength than he was against UIO1 Goku/Post-UIO2 SSB Goku), and then being able to knock him over and frighten Belmod, should be Low 2-C.
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I could compromise for a "3-A, possibly Low 2-C" or "At least 3-A, likely Low 2-C" for Vegeta Blue in the ToP though.
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Can we use this render for SSJ2 Vegeta in the new profile? It's hard to find SSJ2 renders for him.
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Oh, I definitely like that better than the one he's got now.
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This cropped version of the image I mentioned earlier can also be used: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:SSJ_Vegeta_Legends.png
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It seems like extra work to just take the three keys for DBS he has atm and then decide on new keys, but whatever.
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SSB Vegeta doesn't quite become Low 2-C till rather late and that was mostly a thing post ToP. Jiren admitted to being more casual against Vegeta then he was against the first UIO Goku. SSB Evolution is still Low 2-C and SSB Goku was Low 2-C at that point in time as well.
And I more or less agree with AKM Sama.
And I more or less agree with AKM Sama.
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Jiren was Low 2-C before he fought UIO Goku though. When he deflected the Spirit Bomb, he was Low 2-C there as that was when he was stated to be the strongest enemy ever faced. And then there's the Final Flash, which Belmod was getting extremely shook over.
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Yes, I do realize that. But I do recall it being stated that Vegeta being Low 2-C that soon was deemed iffy. Though, not that I have anything against considering SSB Vegeta Low 2-C upon facing Jiren as SSB Goku was yet still stronger and became Low 2-C that same time. But prefer to here AKM Sama's thoughts on the matter.
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Well like I said, I could settle for a compromise of '3-A, possibly/likely Low 2-C' if Vegeta Blue and his Final Flash can't be straight Low 2-C.
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The Final Flash could honestly be superior to the U7 Spirit Bomb if you ask me. Also I forgot that Goku, who had surpassed UIO at that point, was shocked at how powerful Vegeta was.
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