Should ssb Vegito be low 2-C

[Joshua521]

Goku and Kefla are both low 2-C, Vegito is the fusion bewteen Goku and Vegeta and Kefla is the fusion bewteen Caulifa and Kale. Goku and Vegeta should be much stronger then them and Kefla berserk ssj2 is low 2-C, so shouldn't ssb Vegito be low 2-C

 

[Huesito88]

We already discussed this the answer is no (you can look in past threads to see why)

 

[LordGriffin1000]

No, Goku and Vegeta (Black Arc) are not as strong as they are in the Universal Tournament of Power.

Kefla battled UI Goku who is Low-2C, while SSB Vegito only fought Fusion Zamasu who is 3-A and only Low 2-C as Infinite Zamasu which Vegito didn't fight.

Also, don't use the fact that Vegito's power overloaded the Patara Fusion and Kefla didn't. Remember Kefla only was fused for like a minute.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This.

 

[TheRustyOne]

So are Goku and Vegeta Low 2-C, I never understood the whole "They aren't as strong as they are now" argument.

How does them being a stronger 3-A explain a increase by two levels of infinity?

I understand Vegito not scailing because I don't really care, but that reason doesn't make sense.

Two 3-A fused together is still 3-A, what makes Kefla Low 2-C is her SSJ2 transformation. Because apparently her SSJ2 increase her power by two levels of infinity... somehow.

 

[Joseph619]

So are Goku and Vegeta Low 2-C, I never understood the whole "They aren't as strong as they are now" argument.
How does them being a stronger 3-A explain a increase by two levels of infinity?

The infinity thing is only a wiki only thing. Fiction doesn't differ much between 3-A and Low 2-C, if at all. The only thing we do is determine whether they used the term spacetime to differentiate between 3-D and 4-D

 

[Joseph619]

What's the problem with quoting? I am well aware of the block of text rule, it's fine here

 

[Antvasima]

Should we close this thread?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Wanna point out, kefla was fused forb3 minutes with no sign of running out, despite going absolutely all out and using something stated to be all her energy and an actual final weapon .

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Current SSG Goku=Dyspo=Hit(Dyspo fight)=Blue Goku(black saga)=kaioken 10x(universe 6 saga) Kale ss berserker=current SSG and Caulifla=ssj2 Goku An SSG level and an ssj2 level fuses and we get kefla Kefla base>SSG kefla ssj i looks slightly stronger than current ssb kaioken Ssj2 Kefla is low 2C Logically if we take black saga SSB as current SSG level we have SSG+SSG which should be greater than SSG+SSJ2 and i think it was accepted in the wiki that infinite Zamasu is actually Future Zamasu and i dont think someone can become low 2C from 3A by just getting his body destroyed and we have two statements in black saga one saying Fusion Zamasu having infinite power and other by Shin that Zamasu's standing as God is beyond their understanding and manga also implies Vegito>Beerus so i think logically Vegito should be low 2C i don't care if he is not i just pointed out some things that suggests he is

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I personally think that Vegetto was likely stronger than Kefla, but I will not interfere with the rest of the staff.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

I too Ant i post the only evidences i got for a low 2C vegito blue

 

[Ssr4vegito]

And don't forget vegito was Blue while Kefla was only ssj2(ssj2 has green hair because i think kale's ssj is also green haired) and when Vegito went full power he defused while kefla didn't

 

[DBZMLP12345]

Super's scaling is pure cancer, Vegito and Zamasu got nerfed BIG time, Kefla needed to be as strong as the show needed her to be so that she could force Goku into UI again, so logically if God Goku was wrecking both SSJ2 Caulifla and Controlled Berserker Kale, at same time, heck, both SSJ2 Caulifla and Berserk Kale had to team up to overwhelm just SSJ2 Goku, then Vegito with a stronger form (Blue) should be easily above Kefla, but the show seems to imply otherwise, heck, Kaioken Blue Goku alone managed to make SSJ Berserker Kefla's arm go numb from an attack XD

 

[Ssr4vegito]

The show never implied vegito is weaker

 

[DBZMLP12345]

The show never implied vegito is weaker

UI Goku gave Suppressed Jiren a fight, said Jiren was stated by Supreme Kai to have power that's different from anyone they've ever faced before, he then goes onto say he's strong, plain and simple (Shin has felt Merged Zamasu's power, as well as Whis i believe), Vegito Blue was having a really tough time against a Merged Zamasu that wasn't spreading throughout the Universe, then SSJ2 Kefla was stated to be able to kill UI Goku if any of her attacks were to land

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Vegito blue wasn't having that much trouble against Zamasu if it wasn't for Zamasu's immortality and the time limit vegito would've finished him off

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Also jiren is stated to be above Gods it is likely Jiren was supressed against UI Goku Jiren is likely a higher low 2C while Kefla,UI Goku are at lower level of low 2C

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

@vegito i get about the time limit and shit but don't use manga so easily cause we take anime over manga...for me personally I'm fine with a low 2-C vegito blue. Just try to use anime more than manga because we don't have a low 2-C zamasu in that same manga

 

[Ssr4vegito]

I just one evidence from the manga others are all anime ones

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

the thing is the manga has infinite zamasu as clones not a fusion of the universe so...

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Manga aside i posted some other things

 

[Therefir]

Vegito should be stronger than Kefla.

 

[DBZMLP12345]

Agreed, he logically should be, Base Goku should be above both Base Caulifla and Base Kale, heck, Base Goku was even holding his own against SSJ2 Caulifla briefly, so Base Vegito should be above Base Kefla, then Kefla only has SSJ and SSJ2, while Vegito has SSJ, he should have SSJ2, SSJ3 and God since Goku has those, and he has Blue, so Vegito has 3 SSJ levels over Kefla

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

He shouldn't.

Black Arc Goku =/= ToP Goku.

Só simple.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Black arc Goku also is not 5 billion times weaker than cauflia .

In fact did he even get that much stronger?

Plus like it or not, kefla, going absolutely all out, unleashing all her power at once while enraged did not instabtly knock kefla out of fusion, even an angel in vados pointed out it was literally a final weapon, while Vegito got one beam in and could barely throw one punch after and were fused prior for comparable length .

 

[Dark649]

I agree with Matthew and it's better to wait for possible future infomations about Kefla and Vegito.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should we close this thread then?