Shirou vs Roa

[Fezzih_007]

Both at High 6-C
Speed equal
They fight in the daylight, but they both are in the underground, in a sewer of Fuyuki city, with lights on.
Start distance 2km
Shirou is being supporter by miyu mana
Shirou have prior knowlegement
the rest is SBA
Votes:


Roa:


Shirou:

 

[Greatsage13th]

I thought all fate profiles has Smurf hax.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I thought all fate profiles has Smurf hax.

Well they do, but according with the profiles, this only apply to magic, and Reid hax don't rely on that, so i think he can harm Shirou here.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I was gonna make a match about Sonic vs DBH characters again, but i want to use Shirou in a match, and Reid os gaining a bunch of fight, so i doing this instead.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Btw, If this is added to the profiles, the description is gonna bê like:
"Speed was equal, Reid and Shirou are at High 6-but Shirou couldn't use Unlimeted Blade Works,Shirou start with Card Class install and as being support with Miyu mana. Goku couldn't interfere with the battle, they fight on the desert where Yamcha lived, start distance was 15 meters, Prior knowlegement involved Shirou knowing that Reid is a perveted, and Reid knows Shirou names. Both are willing to kill"

 

[Violetcyanide]

Well they do, but according with the profiles, this only apply to magic, and Reid hax don't rely on that, so i think he can harm Shirou here.

In the nasuverse,anything supernatural counts as magic and can be resisted by his hax,so no.

 

[Greatsage13th]

In the nasuverse,anything supernatural counts as magic and can be resisted by his hax,so no.

Reid's is alright. He doesn't utilize magic. He's physical capabilities is just insane for the most part.

 

[Violetcyanide]

Reid's is alright. He doesn't utilize magic. He's physical capabilities is just insane for the most part.

I am pretty sure anything supernatural gets resisted.whether it is magic in nature,psychic in nature,or a guy using swordplay.all of them counts for resistance.

 

[Fezzih_007]

In the nasuverse,anything supernatural counts as magic and can be resisted by his hax,so no.

If i turn off verse equalization, does that make this match fine then?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I am pretty sure anything supernatural gets resisted.whether it is magic in nature,psychic in nature,or a guy using swordplay.all of them counts for resistance.

The thing is. Reid's ability comes from just sheer skill. It's supernatural in the supernatural sense but is simply natural.

 

[VortechsTG]

The thing is. Reid's ability comes from just sheer skill. It's supernatural in the supernatural sense but is simply natural.

Sheer skill and mana. Mostly mana.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I disable verse equalization anyway, so he can harm Shirou here.

 

[Violetcyanide]

Sheer skill and mana. Mostly mana.

Welp,then it definitely doesn't work.

I disable verse equalization anyway, so he can harm Shirou here.

Kinda doesn't matter.shirou opening move in cqc is kanshou and bakuya which raises his magic resistance to servant magic resistance which can makes him straight up resistant whether you equalize verse or not.

 

[Vietthai96]

Verse equalization is off

So now both combatants can't fight each other because their verse's power work differently

The thing is. Reid's ability comes from just sheer skill. It's supernatural in the supernatural sense but is simply natural.

Joke on you, Fate have people who can cut space-time with sheer skill alone, using a wooden sword, or someone who developed a pure sword technique that is immeasurable in speed, etc...

 

[VortechsTG]

Joke on you, Fate have people who can cut space-time with sheer skill alone, using a wooden sword

Reid literally does that exact same thing but with chopsticks

 

[Fezzih_007]

Kinda doesn't matter.shirou opening move in cqc is kanshou and bakuya which raises his magic resistance to servant magic resistance which can makes him straight up resistant whether you equalize verse or not.

I kinda know that, but i din't know desqualize verse don't cover servant magic resistance. Like, if i desqualize verse, both his Magic and Servant magic resistance are not working anymore, but if that don't work like that, i gonna do some changes then.

So now both combatants can't fight each other because their verse's power work differently

Why? The page don't say it works like that.

 

[Fezzih_007]

In the nasuverse,anything supernatural counts as magic and can be resisted by his hax,so no.

Also, can you show me scans for that? Because i can't find where is stated that anywhere.

 

[Vietthai96]

Why? The page don't say it works like that.

Verse Equalization, allow you to put characters from different verses against each others as it default assume that both verse basic mechanic gonna be able to interact with each others and working normally, such as Ki, magic. Turn it off mean both not gonna be able to interact with each others and isn't working, even worse you put them in DB universe bruhh

 

[Fezzih_007]

Verse Equalization, allow you to put characters from different verses against each others as it default assume that both verse basic mechanic gonna be able to interact with each others and working normally, such as Ki, magic. Turn it off mean both not gonna be able to interact with each others and isn't working, even worse you put them in DB universe bruhh

Eh.
I kinda still confusing, but i not gonna question anymore.

 

[Vietthai96]

Also Goku definitely gonna interfere, if Shirou and Reid going to kill each others

 

[Greatsage13th]

Joke on you, Fate have people who can cut space-time with sheer skill alone, using a wooden sword, or someone who developed a pure sword technique that is immeasurable in speed, etc...

Really?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Also Goku definitely gonna interfere, if Shirou and Reid going to kill each others

He can't trought, he just telerport Shirou there, but he won't be able to interfere because of a energy barrier that is 7-D that is stoping him.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He can't trought, he just telerport Shirou there, but he won't be able to interfere because of a energy barrier that is 7-D that is stoping him.

A 7D barrier? Pathetic, Goku is boundless he cant be stopped by mere barriers

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Anyways this feels like a mismatch already, but for what its worth. Reid can cut concepts, black holes and Space-time via skill alone

 

[Fezzih_007]

Anyways this feels like a mismatch already, but for what its worth. Reid can cut concepts, black holes and Space-time via skill alone

Almost all Reid matches are a mismatch.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Almost all Reid matches are a mismatch.

Caught me

 

[Violetcyanide]

Anyways this feels like a mismatch already, but for what its worth. Reid can cut concepts, black holes and Space-time via skill alone

You do realise the match is a mismatch is the opposite side.shirou resists everything you have mentioned and arguably has a better skill thanks to tracing.

 

[VortechsTG]

Shirou resists everything Reid could possibly throw at him so this is absolutely a mismatch.

 

[Vietthai96]

Anyways this feels like a mismatch already, but for what its worth. Reid can cut concepts, black holes and Space-time via skill alone

Shirou resist at 4D level, he used Archer Card then possess to analyse and copy Reid's ability and skill and stomp him back

 

[Fezzih_007]

Can you give me a minute? I gonna change the opponent.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I still trying to find where is saying magic in Nasuverse count as everything, btw.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Can we please stop throwing Re Zero top tiers against the smurf Nasuverse, like the matches don't work. Next match up i see with this i am closing.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Can we please stop throwing Re Zero to tiers against the smurf Nasuverse, like the matches don't work. Next match up i see with this i am closing.

Ok then, geez.

 

[Vietthai96]

I still trying to find where is saying magic in Nasuverse count as everything, btw.

Because Magic in Nasuverse is.........source of all supernatural power & abilities, essentially an Universal Power System of the verse, every hax require magic to perform, and in order to perform magic you need magical energy

Can we please stop throwing Re Zero top tiers against the smurf Nasuverse, like the matches don't work. Next match up i see with this i am closing.

I'm gonna agree with Pegasus, these kind of match don't work, since not only Nasuverse is smurf, due to them resist Magic which is Universal Power System, they resists multiple relevant haxes of the wiki, thus render the opposite's offensive haxes useless

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

No UBW? insert megamind meme here

Imma wait on the smarter people to argue at each other for a bit first before voting

Joke on you, Fate have people who can cut space-time with sheer skill alone, using a wooden sword, or someone who developed a pure sword technique that is immeasurable in speed, etc...

Nine Lives being literally just skill as a noble phantasm more or less goes brrr

 

[Fezzih_007]

Gonna change the opponent, just need some time.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ok change It.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump