Shirou Emiya vs Shirou Emiya

[Xmark12]

Yes, you saw the title right.

Fate/kaleid Shirou vs Fate/Stay Night Shirou

Speed equalized juuuuust in-case (Even if their speed is probably similar). This is a composite Fate/Stay Night Shirou. Bloodlusted. Both Shirous have unlimited mana, so they can spam however they please. Fate/Stay Night Shirou is automatically in Unlimited Blade Works, and has Avalon.

Who will win?!? Shirou, or Shirou?


Fate/kaleid Shirou


Fate/Stay Night Shirou

 

[Gemmysaur]

Mirou (Miyu's Shirou) probably drops Ig Alima and calls it a day.

The biggest threats compoShirou has are Nine Lives (which Mirou knows as well and can most likely act accordingly), Caladbolg and Hrunting (which given that Mirou has shown to pierce through lightning bolts wide as a lighthouse and the projectile keeps on flying away despite being dead tired after keeping up with multiple muddied servants and Girlgamesh, these might not be as threatening to him. Besides, Rho Aias) and Caliburn (which iirc takes a bit to charge).

 

[Xmark12]

1 - 0 in favor of Shirou.

(Haha, get it? Shirou? Shirou?... 1 - 0 in favor of Mirou, like Gemmy said...)

 

[ZERO7772]

fate kaleid shirou : can copy any weapon he sees (seems to be capable of tracing divine constructs) down to the soul (AKA tracing/projection) with greater efficiency then his Fate/Stay Night counterpart, able to replicate the physical abilities and experience of the original wielder, capable of remotely summoning and controlling his projections

Unlike mainstream Shirou, Miyu's brother was properly taught magecraft by Kiritsugu whose "Magus Killer" persona remained after the Holy Grail war, accompanying him on numerous assignments. As a result, he has full mastery over his projection magic and is a combat genius, can come up with complicated plans and switch between them on the fly. Able to quickly determine the opponent's strengths and weaknesses to shift his tactics accordingly. Has an undeveloped Eye of the Mind that lets him calmly analyze the situation and consider multiple possibilities in the heat of battle. In his fight against Angelica shows that he's a heavy strategist, planning moves ahead of his opponent and keeping track of his openings.

It's implied Shirou summoned the Archer card which is probably the source of his power since he was merging with the single best version of himself across the multiverse.

^ I think kalied shirou profile is literlly trying to tell you that he is better version than his main stream one

 

[ZERO7772]

There also the fact that kaleid shirou single handedly beaten every servant in the holy grail war in one night "granted they are weaker than the orignal one's but they still have the same power , speed etc " only to take on angilca later on with tierd body and lost because of self desraction "same weak point as main stream as FSN shirou

 

[Xmark12]

Mkay. 2 - 0 now in favor of Mirou.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Just to clarify, Mirou can trace divine constructs, but they are hollow. How you interpret that is beyond me as I only see it as it having none of its abilities.

Mirou also won the grail war in a single night with the Archer card, his reflexes are still his own but his power was boosted somehow methinks.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@Gemmy IIRC, Mirou's divine constructs are literally hollow. I'll post the scan of the hollow Ig Alima tomorrow, if no one does it first, since i'm on mobile right now.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Oh well, my bad. It still doesn't have the original abilities right? Or I guess we don't really know since Ig Alima was only a giant ramp to Mirou.

 

[Akalavashimu]

fsn shirou got avalon that might help him in this fight but fsn shirou is lacking in mana while kaleid shirou is able to keep fighting without running out of mana quickly

 

[Xmark12]

Both have infinite mana in this fight.

 

[ZERO7772]

kaleid shirou would defeat CG Archer if you give him infinite mana xD

 

[Akalavashimu]

well with infinite mana i say fsn won because he got avalon. both of them got the same skill and knowledge means if fate kaleid gonna use Ig Alima fsn can counter it with Ig Alima to

 

[Gemmysaur]

well with infinite mana i say fsn won because he got avalon. both of them got the same skill and knowledge means if fate kaleid gonna use Ig Alima fsn can counter it with Ig Alima to

Only Mirou has shown the ability to trace Divine Constructs, and Shirou cannot use Avalon iirc as a dimensional shield, only the healing factor.

 

[Akalavashimu]

that healing factor is the key to win because their fighting style is always reckless. yes only fate kaleid shirou has been showed to trace divine construct if you dont count excalibur as a divine construct but it still a hollow version means fate kaleid shirou just make another sword that look like Ig Alima but not the Ig Alima with divine property so fsn shirou can still trace fate kaleid shirou Ig Alima just by looking at it

 

[ZERO7772]

well with infinite mana i say fsn won because he got avalon. both of them got the same skill and knowledge means if fate kaleid gonna use Ig Alima fsn can counter it with Ig Alima to

Nope they don't have the same skill kaleid have better skill and far better tactician and Nope again fsn can't trace Divine Constructs no matter what mana you give which is the same case for archer

 

[Promestein]

Fate Shirou used Avalon to repel Angra Mainyu / associated Grail mud-stuff during his battle with Kirei, IIRC.

 

[ZERO7772]

that healing factor is the key to win because their fighting style is always reckless. yes only fate kaleid shirou has been showed to trace divine construct if you dont count excalibur as a divine construct but it still a hollow version means fate kaleid shirou just make another sword that look like Ig Alima but not the Ig Alima with divine property so fsn shirou can still trace fate kaleid shirou Ig Alima just by looking at it

Excalibur is 75% human made which is why fsn and archer can trace it

kaleid shirou beaten every servant "or doll servant' in one night while fsn will have his hands full with one servant , of course i don't compare regular servent to the doll one but still they have the same "power , speed etc " and kalied beated 7 of them in one night , kalied shirou doesn't fight reckless and can trace his weapon in far better way fsn

seriously kailed shirou beat fsn in every aspect

 

[Gemmysaur]

Fate Shirou used Avalon to repel Angra Mainyu / associated Grail mud-stuff during his battle with Kirei, IIRC.

He projected a perfect replica to reflect Merodach in the Fate Route iirc.

Still, I go by my original answer that Mirou would win due to a more tactical mindset, serious stamina (soloed the war in a night, eat your heart out Gilgamesh) and showing a ridiculous BFS, which given the unli-prana thing, means he can drop it all night while serving as a shielding from compoShirou's Unlimited Bladeworks, not that he can shoot stuff while using Avalon.

 

[Promestein]

Yeah, Fate Shirou has projected it more than once. It's a special case; I finished the route recently and I remember it being stated that, since the sheath had been in his body so long, he knew its shape and structure perfectly. It should be listed in his arsenal.

But yeah, Mirou is just better.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Yeah, now if only Mirou slept with the original Ig Alima as a roofing material for his house.

 

[Xmark12]

I'm assuming 3 - 1 in favor of Mirou then.

 

[Akalavashimu]

that healing factor is the key to win because their fighting style is always reckless. yes only fate kaleid shirou has been showed to trace divine construct if you dont count excalibur as a divine construct but it still a hollow version means fate kaleid shirou just make another sword that look like Ig Alima but not the Ig Alima with divine property so fsn shirou can still trace fate kaleid shirou Ig Alima just by looking at it

Excalibur is 75% human made which is why fsn and archer can trace it
kaleid shirou beaten every servant "or doll servant' in one night while fsn will have his hands full with one servant , of course i don't compare regular servent to the doll one but still they have the same "power , speed etc " and kalied beated 7 of them in one night , kalied shirou doesn't fight reckless and can trace his weapon in far better way fsn

seriously kailed shirou beat fsn in every aspect

exca 75% made by human that is the first time i heard that. but still Ig Alima made by fate kaleid shirou is a hollow knockoff so without divinity fsn shirou should be able to copy that. reckless that i mean is they doesnt mind getting hurt to deal more damage to the enemy and fighting 7 servant it self is already reckless. even if the doll got the same stat and can use noble phantasm they doesnt have the battle exp and didnt master the wep so fate kaleid shirou got the upper hand

 

[Gemmysaur]

exca 75% made by human that is the first time i heard that.

Hello. Next time, when quoting a post, only quote the necessary part. In this case, the post itself you wish to quote. Therefore, you should remove what the previous post quoted if you wish to quote said post yourself.

Regardless, may I ask your vote? It's not clear from your post since you were saying that composite Shirou can copy Ig Alima as well (even if just its projected version), then you say that the doll servants Mirou fought don't have the battle experience the original servant had, but then you say Kaleid Shirou (Miyu's Shirou or Mirou which is different from the real Kaleid Shirou which is Kaleid Ilya's powerless brother) has the upper hand.

So who is it really? Miyu's Shirou or composite Shirou?

 

[Akalavashimu]

Gemmysaur wrote
Hello. Next time, when quoting a post, only quote the necessary part. In this case, the post itself you wish to quote. Therefore, you should remove what the previous post quoted if you wish to quote said post yourself.


So who is it really? Miyu's Shirou or composite Shirou?

aaaa sry about that . i go with fsn shirou and yeah did you forgot what tracing do he mastering the weapon and for the battle exp i guess he is similar to fsn shirou because unlike the other shirou fate kaleid had the complete sync with archer meaning he got archer memories

 

[Zero_Omega_EX]

It's simple:

Composite Shirou stomps MiyuShirou because of Avalon spam

Miyuverse Shirou nearly stomps any individual route Shirou

 

[Reppuzan]

@Zero

It's impossible for Shirou to "spam" Avalon due to its absurdly high energy cost. If Shirou takes too much damage, then the passive portion of Avalon could potentially hurt more than help as it will replace his torn up body parts with swords, one of which could spear his heart.

 

[ZERO7772]

Dude kalied shirou beat fsn shirou in every aspect and if thier manga wasn't equal kalied shirou will wipe the floor with him

 

[KamiYasha]

As far as i know about Fate/Kaleid. UBW-Heaven's Feel Shirou has better durability feats than Kaleid Shirou.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Can Mirou use his version of UBW here?

 

[ZERO7772]

As far as i know about Fate/Kaleid. UBW-Heaven's Feel Shirou has better durability feats than Kaleid Shirou.

Kaleid shirou took direct hit from thor hammer just after getting a fatal wound from dark sakura not to mention he was in bad shape before even getting into the fight

 

[Gemmysaur]

Iirc, he was never really healed since he soloed the whole grail war which was quite a while ago so he was not 100% in his first showing.

 

[ZERO7772]

Iirc, he was never really healed since he soloed the whole grail war which was quite a while ago so he was not 100% in his first showing.

Yeah this is the point he was never 100% they throw in the prison after he soloed the war in one night and i am prret sure he wiped angilca's ass since her card also did end up illya's world but he got self destrection becasue of that

 

[Zero_Omega_EX]

@reppuzan Its infinite prana right hell fate Shirou was not tired after projecting an EX rank NP(normally impossible for any incarnation of him)and then using its "barrier", cost doesn't matter, and we know he got the lowest man's pool among ALL his incarnations and was still capable of doing that. Then if you combine him with other route Shirou, I'm pretty sure with infinite prana can go toe to toe with highest ranked servants(hell I think servant Emiya loses to that composition char).

You guys need to remember that MiyuShirou IS a composite character too comprised of magically trained Shirou and EMIYA(he absorbed his magic circuit and weapons Emiya saw in his life) so why not treat a composite fsn shirou like that to?

Oh by the way, raws on chapter 43/39 gives us the conclusion that Shirou lost(hint:ENUMA ELISH!!!)

 

[Xmark12]

3 - 2 (?) in favor of Mirou.

 

[Zero_Omega_EX]

Dunno lol, but maybe they need to refute the points I made that cancels some of their reasons Mirou can win?

 

[Sage_God_Slayer]

Mirou. Has UBW, NLBW, Divine Constructs, faster projecting and stronger pojections and tanked Enuma Elish.

 

[ZERO7772]

is there more complain's after Drei ch 43 ? LOL

 

[Gemmysaur]

Didn't notice there were new chapters. Goodd catch.


Where to read btw? ********* has yet to update.

 

[ZERO7772]

Didn't notice there were new chapters. Goodd catch.

Where to read btw? ********* has yet to update.

The chapter came out yestrday "RAW " the sub version is yet to come yet , do you mind RAW one ?