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This was originally going to be just a Shin revision but with the new speed upgrade for the verse there's more that needs to be said. I'll try to make this as simple as possible (and I will fail).
Shins AP is currently scaled like this
1. The weapon used is not Shins and Shin can't normally access it.
2. The weapon used was most likely imbued with Sasukes chakra as Sasuke was just about to attack Shin with it.
3. Naruto was offguard.
This means Shins scaling to Naruto and Sasuke is now completely unjustified and generally unlikely.
Shin scales to FTL+ after the upgrades with this justification
Meaning that not only is Shin keeping up with Sasuke here not a feat due to Sasuke being weakened, it's actually a noteworthy anti-feat.
Now for this part:
To make matters worse, base Naruto was capable of reacting to Shins sneak attack and was completely unbothered by it, making Shin scaling to Naruto or Sasukes full speed completely unjustified and pretty much contradicted by his actual (anti) feats.
The same novel that was used to upgrade Sakuras speed mentions this fun little thing:
Sakura is said to possess "unparalleled superhuman strength" even in base, although when "spliced up with rage". This should make her physically stronger than 6 Paths Naruto who at this point scales to 845.9 Exatons, or low 5-B. Exactly the same value she currently scales to but for a different reason.
Shin still scales to Sakura. He clearly tagged her and his weapons were capable of piercing her skin. The is even more apparent in the anime version. Now without her current scaling to Shin, Sakuras new ratings would be Low 5-B and FTL with Empowerment. Sakuras empowerment is tied towards Sasuke and when fighting Shin, she was essentially doing it all for Sasuke, since Shin attacked and threatened both Sasuke and their daughter. New Shin scaling should therefore look like this:
AP:
TL;DR: Sakura was carried by scaling to Shin, now Shin is carried by scaling to Sakura.
Agree:
Disagree:
Shin is poopy (AP)
Shins AP is currently scaled like this The Sakura part doesn't make sense because Sakuras L5B rating comes from Shin to begin with. Meaning Shins true L5B justification is this partSmall Planet level (He could match and harm Sakura Haruno with his blows, with Sakura being able to parry blows from his Mangekyō Sharingan-controlled arm and take attacks from his Mangekyō Sharingan-controlled weapons[59][Note 1]), higher with Mangekyō Sharingan (He was able to harm both Sasuke and Naruto with his Mangekyō Sharingan controlled weaponry[60], even managing to pierce straight through Naruto's chakra cloak, which is especially resistant to cutting and piercing attacks[61][62], to the point that a Chidori from Part II Sasuke was unable to pierce it[63])
Now here's the issue: He only cut off guard Naruto with Sasukes sword. Now I'm not really active on the Naruto side of vsbw and I'm sure this has been argued to death in the past, but this time it's different. This time we have official confirmation that Sasuke enhances his swords cutting power with his own chakra. Furthermore, the rating lists Naruto tanking war arc Sasukes chidori as a feat for its cutting resistance but that Naruto not only reacted to the chidori but also seemingly guarded himself. MeaningHe was able to harm both Sasuke and Naruto with his Mangekyō Sharingan controlled weaponry[60], even managing to pierce straight through Naruto's chakra cloak, which is especially resistant to cutting and piercing attacks[61][62], to the point that a Chidori from Part II Sasuke was unable to pierce it[63]
1. The weapon used is not Shins and Shin can't normally access it.
2. The weapon used was most likely imbued with Sasukes chakra as Sasuke was just about to attack Shin with it.
3. Naruto was offguard.
This means Shins scaling to Naruto and Sasuke is now completely unjustified and generally unlikely.
Shin is stinky (speed)
Shin scales to FTL+ after the upgrades with this justification So let's break it down. First this part:
Again, I think this was most likely discussed gajillion times already, but Sasukes chakra and visual prowess were greatly diminished due to Sasuke using a lot of chakra when going through Kaguyas dimensions. Naruto even notes "This explains things" in regards to Sasukes poor performance against Shin. Mind you, last time Naruto has seen Sasuke fight (at least to our knowledge) at full power it was in the war arc, so his statement isn't even referring to current Sasukes peak.
Meaning that not only is Shin keeping up with Sasuke here not a feat due to Sasuke being weakened, it's actually a noteworthy anti-feat.
Now for this part:
That's just not really true. Shin only "reacts" to the susanoo after it's attack had already hit him and then immediately gets blitzed by it despite the susanoos enormous size and the fact it's literally coming from a large distance away.
To make matters worse, base Naruto was capable of reacting to Shins sneak attack and was completely unbothered by it, making Shin scaling to Naruto or Sasukes full speed completely unjustified and pretty much contradicted by his actual (anti) feats.
Sakuras fists get hit hard when she thinks of Sasuke (Sakuras new value ig)
The same novel that was used to upgrade Sakuras speed mentions this fun little thing:Sakura is said to possess "unparalleled superhuman strength" even in base, although when "spliced up with rage". This should make her physically stronger than 6 Paths Naruto who at this point scales to 845.9 Exatons, or low 5-B. Exactly the same value she currently scales to but for a different reason.
Shin took a shower? (Shins actual scaling)
Shin still scales to Sakura. He clearly tagged her and his weapons were capable of piercing her skin. The is even more apparent in the anime version. Now without her current scaling to Shin, Sakuras new ratings would be Low 5-B and FTL with Empowerment. Sakuras empowerment is tied towards Sasuke and when fighting Shin, she was essentially doing it all for Sasuke, since Shin attacked and threatened both Sasuke and their daughter. New Shin scaling should therefore look like this:AP:
Speed:At least Small Planet level (Capable of damaging and matching Sakura Uchiha in combat)
This also makes full power Naruto and Sasuke scaling above shippudens top tiers more consistent.At least FTL (Capable of keeping up with Sakura Uchiha)
Since as I mentioned, base Naruto blatantly reacted to Shins attack, we can now remove the horrendous FTL justification he has now
ForFTL (Faster than his EOS and New era Base Form, who was able to dodge a photon gun multiple times while weakened and unable to manipulate chakra)
Furthermore this should also upscale the last BSM Naruto and TCM Toneri to FTL+ due to them being far faster than base Nard.FTL (Faster than his EOS and New era Base Form, who was able to react to Shin Uchihas sneak attack despite his battle senses growing dull and his body growing so rusty Sasuke called his fighting display pathetic)
TL;DR: Sakura was carried by scaling to Shin, now Shin is carried by scaling to Sakura.
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Disagree: