Shifu Saku vs Kamen Rider Gaim

[DontTalkDT]

Shifu Saku vs Kamen Rider Gaim

Speed Equal
7-C keys of both
Fight takes place in Showa Memorial Park
SBA otherwise

A debut fight for Shifu, since I gotta use those profiles now that I have created them. How does this go?

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

What does Shifu starts with? Gaim can use a slight of hand to activate his ability, then use the Daidaimaru sword to negate Shifu's durability, it is in character for him to use the Daidaimaru btw.

 

[DontTalkDT]

What does Shifu starts with? Gaim can use a slight of hand to activate his ability, then use the Daidaimaru sword to negate Shifu's durability, it is in character for him to use the Daidaimaru btw.

Shifu starts with Gullhaddr.
The dura neg would be resisted from what I see. (chemical bond cutting is a subtype of matter manip)

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

If the dura neg is resisted, then Gaim has no wincon, there's a massive AP advantage between Gaim and Shifu and the only way Gaim could damage Shifu is through his dura neg, all of Gaim ability doesn't neg durability since it's a child show after all lol.

Shifu starts with Gullhaddr.
The dura neg would be resisted from what I see. (chemical bond cutting is a subtype of matter manip)

 

[Jamesthetaker]

If the dura neg is resisted, then Gaim has no wincon, there's a massive AP advantage between Gaim and Shifu and the only way Gaim could damage Shifu is through his dura neg, all of Gaim ability doesn't neg durability since it's a child show after all lol.

The biggest AP advantage she has over Gaim is 2x times so he can still harm her with some difficulty.

Based on her profile, she seem to fight by using her hair to slip into opponent armor which may not work since Gaim's armor are bound by electromagnet force and highly resistant to blades. He can summon shit load of weapons, including DJ Gun. With it, he can switch firing rate between machine-gun mode and cannon mode to penetrate the fence of hair she formed.

As for Gull-Elding technique, Gaim was able to override the OverLord who has control of entire Helheim forest so it's likely that he prevent Shifu's control over harvest field. Assuming he doesn't, Gaim still got countermeasures against it via several layers of damage reduction and electromagnetic shield.

Also, Gaim durability section seem to missed Kiwami key for some reason so its ought to be changed soon.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Even if her hair can't slip in, it is still a swarm of thousands of extremely sharp blades that can deal a ton of damage since it's simply a lot of 7-C attacks.

I doubt that he can overwrite the control Shifu has. Her ability to overwrite her surroundings like that is part of her Information Manipulation (Type 2) and Law Manipulation. So that's what he would need to counter to overwrite it. (it also has resistance to being negated)

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

The biggest AP advantage she has over Gaim is 2x times so he can still harm her with some difficulty.

But what's his wincon though? No wincon=no battle.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

But what's his wincon though? No wincon=no battle.

His wincon is explained above, Gaim still has chance of winning.

Even if her hair can't slip in, it is still a swarm of thousands of extremely sharp blades that can deal a ton of damage since it's simply a lot of 7-C attacks.

I doubt that he can overwrite the control Shifu has. Her ability to overwrite her surroundings like that is part of her Information Manipulation (Type 2) and Law Manipulation. So that's what he would need to counter to overwrite it. (it also has resistance to being negated)

Well, DJ Gun cannon mode can cover quite big area with explosion and his armor is very resistant to blades so he can reduce the amount of hairs and mitigate the damage she has inflicted on. Melon Shield provided electromagnetic defense in case the former things isn't enough.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Well, DJ Gun cannon mode can cover quite big area with explosion and his armor is very resistant to blades so he can reduce the amount of hairs and mitigate the damage she has inflicted on. Melon Shield provided electromagnetic defense in case the former things isn't enough.

What do you mean resistant to blades? He has no resistance listed, I think? More resistant than a regular material or actually notable for the tier?
Note that she can also make herself more durable and stronger via Iron Dagger boost.

Reducing the number of her blades would be pretty pointless, as she can always just retransform her surroundings into the harvest field to make new ones.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

What do you mean resistant to blades? He has no resistance listed. More resistant than a regular material or actually notable for the tier?
Note that she can also make herself more durable and stronger via Iron Dagger boost.

Reducing the number of her blades would be pretty pointless, as she can always just retransform her surroundings into the harvest field to make new ones.

Here, and several of his weapons can also increases physical stats and such.

Then Gaim could use Dandeliner to flight above her and avoid being pierced from multiple directions.

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

His wincon is explained above, Gaim still has chance of winning.

It's almost not a reliable one, and it's been shown that Shifu can also increase her stats making the wincon not reachable.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Here, and several of his weapons can also increases physical stats and such.

So not really more resistant than its durability suggests? Anything that provides 7-C protection is resistant to regular blades after all. Also seems to only work against attacks from behind?

Then Gaim could use Dandeliner to flight above her and avoid being pierced from multiple directions.

Shifu's range means that she can still pierce him from all directions, given how long those blades get.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

It's almost not a reliable one, and it's been shown that Shifu can also increase her stats making the wincon not reachable.

As long it's not a stomp then this matches is valid.

So not really more resistant than its durability suggests? Anything that provides 7-C protection is resistant to regular blades after all. Also seems to only work against attacks from behind?


Shifu's range means that she can still pierce him from all directions, given how long those blades get.

The description suggest that it's designed to be more resistant to specific kind of weapon in his tier, if not then it's practically meaningless. Attack from behind are also mitigated based on the design, not that only the back of armor is durable part.

Fair point, but he can still maneuvering around to avoid them.