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Well I'm not sure if everyone is aware but there seems to be something missing from the Game Cosmology (this possibly adds to IDW)

Also to note I got this from a certain sonic guy whom is seen as a joke and does his best to promote with indomitable will no matter how many times he's shunned and to those who likely know him all of the credit goes to him.

It's the Martin Adams Books Which Are In evidently the classic sonic world which says a lot about how the cosmology works

In order to know how it's in the classic world we go back to the book called Stay Sonic https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601473165658685475/618253691719516190/image0.png

It's the "official sega handbook" https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601473165658685475/625491999956664340/image0.jpg

Yes this is basically the origin of sonic and eggman

"This isn't canon now" well actually it is, the classic world is in another dimension where the knuckles chaotix (Knuckles chaotix didn't happen in the modern dimension but the chaotix exist with no mighty in sight) and those similar aren't present in the modern dimension which originated in sonic adventure splitting itself from the classic world via different influences immediately. Also before you mention Sega Of America, this book was shaped before sega Of America's inception (Which it expanded upon) http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog "One fateful day, Kintobor asks Sonic to bring him a soda and a hardboiled egg, and due to the doctor's clumsiness, spills the soda onto the control panel of the R.O.C.C., infusing him with the total collected evil energy stored within. The transformation, aided by the hardboiled egg, causes Kintobor to take on the shape of the egg, completing the process to turn the gentle doctor into the villainous Dr. Ivo Robotnik. This version of the story was later rewritten by Mike Pattenden in the book Stay Sonic: Official Sega Handbook.

Sega's official American homepage from 1996[5] expanded slightly on this story, showing that many of the attributes that made up Sonic were in fact learned from the animals that you rescue in the games."

Now how does Stay Sonic connect to the Martin Adams Books?

These Two Scans

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601473165658685475/618234100221739018/image0.png

1. In The book Sega and other companies basically pleads with Sonic to let them write about him, his origin, and his adventures (Which basically means any book happening after this is canon) and sonic says Alright, they have to write what he introduces.


https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601473165658685475/623961692828598333/image0.jpg

This Foreshadows That The Books will pick up after the aftermath of Sonic 2 which means that's where it is in the classic sonic Timeline

Now let's go to Martin Adams: Sonic Into The Fourth Dimension

Existence of Other Time Streams And Parallel Universes: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605933003570544640/623575533145554945/image0.jpg

Thousands Of Possible Futures existing Multiplied And Diverged and that time traveling in one of them creates thousands of more. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605933003570544640/623575533145554944/image1.jpg

Existence Of Temporal Paradoxes: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605933003570544640/623575204362452992/image0.jpg

Places outside the normal universes: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605933003570544640/623575533845872660/image2.jpg

Laws Of Physics: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605933003570544640/623575533145554945/image0.jpg

Quantum Functions Like Simultaneous And Non Simultaneous Existence Of Subatomic Particles (Wave Functions Of Superposition), Cantor's Infinite Sets And Transinfinite Mathematics: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605933003570544640/623575203812737035/image1.jpg.

Apparently IDW Sonic Multiverse is set in The Games And Is Based Off Of It So we can assume any cosmology upgraded in IDW is In The Games As Well 3:38 IDW Sonic is In Relation To The Game Multiverse https://youtu.be/ebtNZXijo0A
 
Seems ok, but i don't remember if Time Eater, Super Forms and co. were shown to be as strong as their game versions.
 
@Dark649 Ian Flynn did say they're reflective to the games and in the game multiverse? which sega approves but I don't know how that holds up. In terms of Tiering.

But the Martin Adams books should be added to the sonic The Hedgehog universe. That's my main interest.
 
It has happened in the classic dimension timeline evidently. The Modern Era has split itself from the past after The Adventure Regions, Ivo Robotnik is Eggmans Name not Kintobor turned into Robotnik. In Heroes Mighty doesn't exist, when in SegaSonic, Knuckles Chaotix And Mania that's a whole notha' Level. There's also Generations kinda leaving a inconsistent time gap.

I can add more but some things in the "past dimension" has not happened in the modern dimension.

But yeah this could be 2-B definitely.
 
Well I'll be dammed, a reasonable 2-B justification that isn't any at all dodgy, vague, or even incorrect.

This was also made Imagine, someone who's been brushed aside as a joke many times. I applaud you man. Kudos.
 
In all honesty I got this from ZaStando. He's the one that put it out, I merely shared it. Surprisingly he has a few other valid things. But this does put a smile on my face.
 
IDW has nothing to gsin from this at the current standing in the comics. I expected to have another laugh at reading this thread. I was wrong.

I... Damn, I agree.
 
ShakeResounding said:
IDW has nothing to gsin from this at the current standing in the comics. I expected to have another laugh at reading this thread. I was wrong.

I... Damn, I agree.
Even if Ian said that the cosmology is based off and in the game cosmology? This isn't even death of the author
 
I trust Dark649's sense of judgement, but it would still help if somebody provides a TL;DR summary of what is being suggested here and why.
 
I was expecting this to be another one of those threads but this is actually reasonable and I have nothing to refute it. I agree. No IDW character would scale to this though as there aren't any feats yet.

@Theuser789 Shake was talking about IDW.
 
Theuser789 said:
The Martin Adam books being canon, which would increase the cosmology to 2-B and IDW being set in the games and based on it I think
Okay. Thanks for the summary.
 
I'm not listed as a knowledgable member but I'm pretty knowledgable over most of the sonic stuff , and this looks okay in my opinion. However its be best as Ant says to get some more knowledgable members as this is a pretty significant upgrade.
 
Sadistic Sleuth said:
Someone: Upgrade Sonic to 2-B without buffing Maginairy World back to 2-B

Yall: K ƒà▒´©Å0$$ 😂😂😂
Actually that was ZaStando honestly

A slight derail: no one even heard a soul about this until he put it out, and wanted me to put it out there despite the trash talk he was getting. Felt sorry for him but it was admirable considering he pulled a pro gamer move on the lot of you.
 
I don't really know NiGHTS but he has made appearances in several Sonic games, though they were mostly cameos and both have their games developed by Sonic Team.
 
The 2nd Existential Seed said:
Give ZaStando my regards and apologies for the embarrassment he may have felt.

I wonder if I can use this to help upgrade NiGHTS since NiGHTS and Sonic share the same canon if accepted ..
Sonic has appeared in NIGHTS into Dreams in Sonic Adventure, as well as in Lost World and if you change the date in Sonic Shuffle the setting changes into Nights Into Dreams.
 
2-B Gameverse is already stressful enough to achieve.

Don't make me regret my support. You actually did good with this one, buddy
 
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