The issue with AVGN/Nostalgia Critic isn't that they interact with the worlds, the issue is that they're web-video personalities/stage personas who are simply presenting a generally non-fiction show that occasionally has skits and visual gags. Scott does not get around this, and could not get a profile on this wiki. Please take it to FC/OC wiki instead.
Scott should be able to get around this since the show is fiction there are stories within the episodes interwoven with an actual plot like Scott had to review Mario kart 8 deluxe and prove it was different from Mario kart 8 to show the world they were different to save the universe, in bargain bin Christmas Scott had to host a charity event or all of his possessions would have been taken from him by the bank, the entire dark age of Nintendo had scott going to therapy over his trauma from bad Wii-u era games there are more examples of this saying it simply presents a non-fiction show is ignoring the stories and lore to the series that have been going on for 4 years
If Scott gets a profile because of him being on television, that's a slam dunk right there for an AVGN profile (Movie, two video games, actual television series sold by Amazon, etc).
We'd also need more continuity and lore foundations to prove that it's not just a non-fiction series, which Scott has in plenty.
Yeah, Nerd has plenty of continuity, even connecting the show to his more. I wonder, where does Scott scale? If we ever get profiles on them, I want to make a match of them.
I also wouldn't say the appearances of characters like Bugs Bunny and Casper in AVGN and NC are like "fanfiction". They're not even important characters in the show, more so appearing for one-off gags. They're there the same reason Peter Griffin might beat up Lucy van Pelt or Mickey Mouse might show up in South Park. For parody. Because it's a parodic series. It's not a gotcha moment, it's just the nature of the series and not even that important when the shows do get into narrative points, like To Boldly Flee, the AVGN movie, and The Review Must Go On.
It's just a long episode.
They're just long episodes.
Airing on TV does not get around our rules on this. That's why Adam Ruins Everything doesn't have profiles.
No. You don't need occasional continuity and lore drops. You need to not be largely composed of non-fictional informative content.
That doesn't matter, having different names is not the issue.
Having different names is not the issue. And even if it was, "Doug Walker is a different literal character in the universe" doesn't help the case.
Bugs Bunny is not a one-off gag. The extent to which copyrighted material is used, a part of the lore, and generally would come up in indexing, is vastly different between those examples and Family Guy/South Park.
What's your point? They follow stories, they have continuity.
Which exists half and half. It's a coexistence. One half opinionated from the vessel of the character, and the other half following a story.
The context here is similar to Grant Morrison appearing to Animal Man in the comics. It's not a joke, and it serves a narrative purpose. Within the context of the story, it tells the tale of a fictionalized version of Doug Walker being tormented by the character he created, which has taken on a life of it's own, egging him onto continuing the series. There is a clear separation of the character and stage persona here. Kickassia, Suburban Knights, To Boldly Flee, The Review Must Go On, a good portion of episodes form narrative structure with reoccurring characters, settings, status quo's etc, sometimes without even cutting to a review.
Mickey Mouse isn't a one-off gag in South Park either and is a reoccurring character who plays an important part of the narrative in some of the episodes that he features in.
I don't appreciate the tone of this, but I can understand that you're frustrated for having to renounce these same claims. However, I do believe that my arguments have weight to them, and I am passionate about these various series, being a long follower of them.
It ought to be a lot more like 1% non-fictional opinion, and 99% actual story, to be allowed on the site.
And those ones in particular run into massive issues with being derivative works, from what I remember of them.
I know? I was responding to your erroneous claim that Bugs Bunny was "more so appearing for one-off gags". Having ten minutes of just fight scenes across multiple episodes goes against that claim.
I understand how people can be convinced by your arguments, our reasons for not including them are ultimately arbitrary after all, but what I'm trying to stress is that they're nothing new. You're not the first person to say these things, and it's tiring to have someone else come up every 6 months to say the same thing in a slightly different way.
I guess the argument's pretty dead in the water, but it was a nice try. My major reasoning for trying to push so hard is that people generally don't really take the arguments as seriously due to the reputation of some of the profiles on there, but it's better than nothing. I concede.
